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Post by horns1 on Apr 3, 2021 22:19:01 GMT -5
That's not what i stated. The overall pandemic was something everyone had to deal with; didn't say it affected everyone in the same manner.
Was Hawaii a favorite to win the title? Sorry they missed the season, just like the Duke women's hoops teams and others didn't finish out their seasons due to safety concerns. No asterisk listed for tomorrow's championship match between Arizona and Stanford that I know of. And some teams playing in the fall AND the spring? No difference. Again, c'mon. Not to mention a 48 team field in frikking Omaha. If women's hoops can field the normal 64 team field for a sport which started its regular season in November and concluded in March, so could have volleyball. It's all about choices.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 22:20:09 GMT -5
But this is what gives the season an asterisk. It hasn't been a level playing field. At all. I don't get why it's only women's volleyball fans here who are whining about an asterisk. As far as I know, no other sports fans are crying about it. Folks can invent an asterisk in their head to help them cope with whatever denial they are facing; it still doesn't exist in the record books.
None of the other sports were messed up this way. Not hard to figure out. This is an asterisk season. Just like MLB, the NHL and the NBA last year.
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Post by basil on Apr 3, 2021 22:23:12 GMT -5
I give it an asterisk. But do I think that anyone who wins should have that win be discounted? No. They deserve it, especially through the special challenges that have come this season.
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Post by horns1 on Apr 3, 2021 22:41:54 GMT -5
I don't get why it's only women's volleyball fans here who are whining about an asterisk. As far as I know, no other sports fans are crying about it. Folks can invent an asterisk in their head to help them cope with whatever denial they are facing; it still doesn't exist in the record books.
None of the other sports were messed up this way. Not hard to figure out. This is an asterisk season. Just like MLB, the NHL and the NBA last year. Messed up how? If the B1G and PAC 12 would have followed their league's football flip-flop of season on, no season, and season back on, the Fall season could have been completed and championship conducted in December.
Those pro-seasons were 2019-20, by the way.
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Post by azvolleydad on Apr 3, 2021 23:12:14 GMT -5
I’m constantly surprised at how many people think anyone cares that they’ve decided to place an asterisk by anything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 0:48:35 GMT -5
This is the moment we've all been waiting for, TrojanSC. Don't worry, this season will forever have an * next to it. It didn't in any other sports, and it won't in women's volleyball either. I was referring to TrojanSC's bracket prediction.
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Post by huskerrob on Apr 4, 2021 1:07:36 GMT -5
But this is what gives the season an asterisk. It hasn't been a level playing field. At all. But that is the point. It never is. but there is always a threshold, a point where the uneven application of competition, for the multitudes of reasoning that exist which affects competition, is crossed and the avg person states their understanding to it being labeled an asterisk season. When a team has found to have broken a rule that doesn't greatly offset the balance of fairness in competition, and their wins voided for such violation, it isn't stated to not correct the record because competition isn't ever truly fair...it's stated it's only the right thing to do. Same for this year's season....it's the right thing to do.
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Post by badger12 on Apr 4, 2021 6:09:01 GMT -5
The 2021 tournament will be the fairest National Championship in NCAA volleyball history. No team will be given the Penn State regional draw or get the Texas and Stanford 4 home matches to advance to the Final 4 annually. Every team is seeded and the 1st three rounds will feel totally natural. I don’t see Nebraska or Creighton having a HCA until the Elite 8 when all matches are moved in to the arena when fans are allowed.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 4, 2021 7:25:33 GMT -5
Previously: #16 plays ~ Coppin State and #17 plays ~ Dayton in the 1st round. #16 gets home court. This year: #16 gets a buy and #17 plays ~ Coppin State in the 1st round. All on a neutral court. I think #17 is better off this year than previous years - and that doesn't take into account that #17 could end up facing #1 in the 2nd round with regionalization. No. Previously #17 gets to play at whichever seeded team is closest to them. It could be #16, or it could be #1. Doesn't matter. If that's the only team within 400 miles, that's the team they play. That is what I said. This year, #17 gets #16 if they win their first match against #48. Previously, they would have to play a much harder team in the 1st round and then could play at anyone of the top 16 teams.
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 4, 2021 7:36:42 GMT -5
No Asterisk.
I was opposed to moving VB to the spring - I thought it could have been done this fall. It is unfortunate that the Big West, Ivy, and another conference was unable to play. But who would have guessed that most teams would be playing 20+ matches this year? I think every conference that played - played pretty much a full conference season or pretty close. A 48 seeded team tournament on a neutral court makes for the 'fairest' tournament. To talk of an asterisk is unfair to all the players that worked so hard for so long this year. Here is to a great tournament and congratulations to everyone that was able to pull out this season given the circumstances.
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Post by vergyltantor on Apr 4, 2021 7:57:21 GMT -5
No Asterisk. I was opposed to moving VB to the spring - I thought it could have been done this fall. It is unfortunate that the Big West, Ivy, and another conference was unable to play. But who would have guessed that most teams would be playing 20+ matches this year? I think every conference that played - played pretty much a full conference season or pretty close. A 48 seeded team tournament on a neutral court makes for the 'fairest' tournament. To talk of an asterisk is unfair to all the players that worked so hard for so long this year. Here is to a great tournament and congratulations to everyone that was able to pull out this season given the circumstances. As long as the committee selects the best teams for the tournament it will be just as legitimate as any other year with a few exceptions.
The record book will give an advantage to the players who chose to play for 5 years, but denying them a 5th year is a more of a problem. I could understand a team like Stanford being upset about things like their top 25 and consecutive tournament streaks ended, maybe an asterisk might be appropriate in that case.
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Post by udubhuskiefan on Apr 4, 2021 8:08:37 GMT -5
Hype for selection sunday today!
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Post by horns1 on Apr 4, 2021 8:33:21 GMT -5
The 2021 tournament will be the fairest National Championship in NCAA volleyball history. No team will be given the Penn State regional draw or get the Texas and Stanford 4 home matches to advance to the Final 4 annually. Every team is seeded and the 1st three rounds will feel totally natural. I don’t see Nebraska or Creighton having a HCA until the Elite 8 when all matches are moved in to the arena when fans are allowed. And, Wisconsin (and others who have been national 4 seeds with no predetermined regional host sites).
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Post by udubhuskiefan on Apr 4, 2021 9:07:17 GMT -5
Kinda stinks I can’t watch it though... with family for Easter. Will be sure to check in from time to time. Go huskies! Hoping Purdue gets a solid seed too.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 4, 2021 13:32:50 GMT -5
It has NEVER BEEN THIS UNEVEN. THAT is the point. I wanted an asterisk added for those championships Nebraska won in Omaha in front of partisan home crowds; never happened. Certainly wasn't an even playing field.
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