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Post by hipsterfilth on Jul 22, 2023 17:57:50 GMT -5
Are we really arguing that it's off-base to suggest that people whose brains haven't fully developed [and ergo can't handle or compartmentalize trauma, or in worse situations, are not physically capable of defending themselves] are particularly susceptible to the effects of abuse?
We've got some wild a$$ takes on VT lately and this sh*t is sending me straight back to 2020.
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Post by vbman100 on Jul 24, 2023 9:46:00 GMT -5
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jul 24, 2023 9:50:43 GMT -5
That's pretty messed up.
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 24, 2023 10:06:36 GMT -5
If it's true, which should be fairly easy to prove or disprove, he's toast. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 24, 2023 10:12:19 GMT -5
The timing of it all was supposedly the player catches COVID sometime in February. On March 2nd, she made to do the "suicides". Northwestern's matches on March 5 and 6 were cancelled, but Michigan State themselves had had a COVID breakout - from which Wisconsin also caught COVID when playing MSU Feb 20-21 - so that cancellation likely had as much to do with MSU as Northwestern. Wisconsin was due to be cleared as a team for their matches vs Northwestern on March 12-13 ( though UW was going to be missing a number of players) when the matches were cancelled from the NW side for reasons that were later described as "non-COVID related", which meant they were counted as forfeits and wins for Wisconsin. The next weekend, March 20-21 matches vs Indiana were also forfeits and losses for NW. Around that time, as best I recall, there were rumors and maybe cryptic posts on some NW twitter accounts etc that hinted at a 'rebellion' or refusal to play on the part of some players at Northwestern. So, the timing of it all sure matches up... |
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Post by lotstodo2023 on Jul 24, 2023 10:42:53 GMT -5
According to the lawsuit, Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 in February of that year, despite following the team’s COVID guidelines. Despite this, she says, Northwestern volleyball coach Shane Davis and an assistant coach informed her she would need to undergo a “punishment” for violating the guidelines. A day later, on March 2, 2021, the coaches permitted the volleyball team’s captains to pick the punishment: She was forced to run “suicides” in the gym while diving to the floor each time she reached a line on the court. As she did this, the suit says, volleyball coaching staff, team members and trainers watched.
Campus police were made aware of the incident, as was the athletic department, the lawsuit says. Jane Doe says she was isolated from the team and Davis forced her to write an apology letter to trainers. The lawsuit also says the player met with athletic director Derrick Gragg to discuss the culture of the volleyball program but he “did nothing in response” to her concerns.
Yikes. She medically retired the next year. Filed suit today against the school.
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Post by dizzydean on Jul 24, 2023 11:08:26 GMT -5
Why would you have your players in charge of the punishment...
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 24, 2023 11:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by Hawk Attack on Jul 24, 2023 11:25:57 GMT -5
“the coaches decided to punish her for breaking the team's COVID safety guidelines” is a very interesting twist on getting caught drinking at a party during dry season and having a consequence for breaking that team rule.
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Post by comet on Jul 24, 2023 11:33:32 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she broke Covid protocol which had consequences of games being cancelled, which affects the whole team. Then coaches and teammates agreed on individual consequences for her for breaking the protocol, which she didn't like or find fair.
I dont have all the details, but that is what it sounds like to me.
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Post by lotstodo2023 on Jul 24, 2023 11:36:33 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she broke Covid protocol which had consequences of games being cancelled, which affects the whole team. Then coaches and teammates agreed on individual consequences for her for breaking the protocol, which she didn't like or find fair. I dont have all the details, but that is what it sounds like to me. According to the lawsuit, Jane Doe contracted COVID-19 in February of that year, despite following the team’s COVID guidelines. Despite this, she says, Northwestern volleyball coach Shane Davis and an assistant coach informed her she would need to undergo a “punishment” for violating the guidelines. 2 different takes here... |
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Post by midwestvball1 on Jul 24, 2023 11:37:08 GMT -5
“the coaches decided to punish her for breaking the team's COVID safety guidelines” is a very interesting twist on getting caught drinking at a party during dry season and having a consequence for breaking that team rule. I wonder if this will put Junior club programs at risk when coaches and club directors allow captains to hand out punishments to their teammates. Is that a form of hazing? |
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Post by n00b on Jul 24, 2023 11:45:15 GMT -5
Why would you have your players in charge of the punishment... When the captains are 22-year-old adults? I don't think this is as uncommon as you think. The team having ownership over expectations and consequences isn't a bad thing. Also, it doesn't sound like an abnormal punishment for a coach to have handed out anyway. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 24, 2023 11:45:28 GMT -5
It sounds to me like she broke Covid protocol which had consequences of games being cancelled, which affects the whole team. Then coaches and teammates agreed on individual consequences for her for breaking the protocol, which she didn't like or find fair. I dont have all the details, but that is what it sounds like to me. It doesn't matter what the incident was that precipated the punishment (getting covid, breaking protocol or drinking). Whether the punishment (or consequences) is appropriate or not is what matters, and it also makes no difference whether the team voted on it or not. |
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Jul 24, 2023 11:45:56 GMT -5
Ex-Northwestern volleyballer suing over response to hazing The volleyball player attended Northwestern from 2019 through 2023, according to the lawsuit. She said she contracted COVID in February 2021 and the coaches decided to punish her for breaking the team's COVID safety guidelines. She said she followed the guidelines. In early March of that year, according to the lawsuit, Davis told his team's captains to pick a "punishment" for the player. The captains made the player "run suicide" sprints that included diving to the ground at each line on the gymnasium floor while her teammates and coaches watched. She said she was injured and required medical attention after completing the sprints. www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38063297/ex-northwestern-volleyballer-suing-response-hazing |
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