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Post by eazy on Apr 2, 2021 15:35:16 GMT -5
If/When there is a story worth telling, someone will tell it. History does not prove your point. The stories are usually buried for years or never told at all. I'm not suggesting that anything similar is going on at NW, but how long was it before the MSU or USC scandals were exposed? Decades. There's still never been an official account of what led to the coaches' firings at ASU. Often, a desire to avoid litigation leads to silence. Fair, I suppose this is a better way to phrase what I was thinking: If anyone that knows the truth is willing to share what has happened, it will be in a thread and not a private message with random posters who want to hear the gossip. Anyone that is willing to "spill the tea" to anyone that asks in a private message but not in a public thread where they can be corrected is probably just making stuff up. |
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on Apr 2, 2021 16:53:26 GMT -5
We also still don't know why Caroline Knop was asked to leave the team at Michigan...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 17:15:28 GMT -5
This is silly.
I’ve gotten five different PMs, all saying something similar. Allegedly, Davis was aware of team hazing and didn’t intervene. The details about the hazing are debated.
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Post by mongoliavolleyball on Apr 2, 2021 20:16:52 GMT -5
So... anyone got any news on Northwestern? Shane wasn't on the bench again tonight
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Post by ballvolley on Apr 2, 2021 20:45:16 GMT -5
Just watched the Maryland/NU match. Not sure I've ever seen a poorer blocking team that Northwestern. Also, this team looks off. Weird energy, and not a ton of competitive drive. Nia Robinson isn't playing, and she looked disengaged on the bench. They did a double sub and the Opp that came in made two errors that looked like middle school volleyball. Their service errors were often and bad ones (middle of the net), they made really poor hitting decisions (namely straight into the block), and passing was erratic. Me thinks it's time for the coaching staff to be shown the door. That program needs a HC who can instill a winning culture.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 2, 2021 21:16:39 GMT -5
Just watched the Maryland/NU match. Not sure I've ever seen a poorer blocking team that Northwestern. Also, this team looks off. Weird energy, and not a ton of competitive drive. Nia Robinson isn't playing, and she looked disengaged on the bench. They did a double sub and the Opp that came in made two errors that looked like middle school volleyball. Their service errors were often and bad ones (middle of the net), they made really poor hitting decisions (namely straight into the block), and passing was erratic. Me thinks it's time for the coaching staff to be shown the door. That program needs a HC who can instill a winning culture. When you say "instill a winning culture" is that a joke? He won two national titles at Loyola. The only coaches active in volleyball with more rings are Russ Rose and John Cook. That's it. That's the list. He has already proven he can instill a winning culture, but it took about a decade at Loyola. There are a lot of tough questions that you can ask but thats not one of them. |
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Post by n00b on Apr 2, 2021 21:31:04 GMT -5
Just watched the Maryland/NU match. Not sure I've ever seen a poorer blocking team that Northwestern. Also, this team looks off. Weird energy, and not a ton of competitive drive. Nia Robinson isn't playing, and she looked disengaged on the bench. They did a double sub and the Opp that came in made two errors that looked like middle school volleyball. Their service errors were often and bad ones (middle of the net), they made really poor hitting decisions (namely straight into the block), and passing was erratic. Me thinks it's time for the coaching staff to be shown the door. That program needs a HC who can instill a winning culture. When you say "instill a winning culture" is that a joke? He won two national titles at Loyola. The only coaches active in volleyball with more rings are Russ Rose and John Cook. That's it. That's the list. He has already proven he can instill a winning culture, but it took about a decade at Loyola. There are a lot of tough questions that you can ask but thats not one of them. Only if you assume coaching men and women are the same. You definitely CAN be good at both. But it’s also possible to only be good at developing that culture amongst men (or only amongst women). |
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Post by northwoods on Apr 2, 2021 21:45:05 GMT -5
Shane will be going away and it will be discreetly swept under the rug...... beware of player-mommy-lawyers.
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Post by mongoliavolleyball on Apr 2, 2021 21:58:09 GMT -5
Shane will be going away and it will be discreetly swept under the rug...... beware of player-mommy-lawyers. Player-mommy-lawyers... you think something happened between the players and Shane? |
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Post by vbcoltrane on Apr 2, 2021 22:06:57 GMT -5
Next NU coach? It's may not be the power program, but I'd imagine it's still a very attractive job given the school, the location, the conference.
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Post by ballvolley on Apr 2, 2021 22:32:57 GMT -5
Just watched the Maryland/NU match. Not sure I've ever seen a poorer blocking team that Northwestern. Also, this team looks off. Weird energy, and not a ton of competitive drive. Nia Robinson isn't playing, and she looked disengaged on the bench. They did a double sub and the Opp that came in made two errors that looked like middle school volleyball. Their service errors were often and bad ones (middle of the net), they made really poor hitting decisions (namely straight into the block), and passing was erratic. Me thinks it's time for the coaching staff to be shown the door. That program needs a HC who can instill a winning culture. When you say "instill a winning culture" is that a joke? He won two national titles at Loyola. The only coaches active in volleyball with more rings are Russ Rose and John Cook. That's it. That's the list. He has already proven he can instill a winning culture, but it took about a decade at Loyola. There are a lot of tough questions that you can ask but thats not one of them. What a bonkers response. Did he instill a winning culture at Loyola? Yes. Has he done the same at Northwestern? Not a chance. Further, he's been MIA from the last matches for mysterious reasons and the team looks uninspired. I bet Maryland wins 3-0 tomorrow. Also, your analogy to Rose and Cook makes no sense. Of active head coaches do those three have the most NC rings across both men's and women's? Sure. But that's 100% not the point. It's about can a coach come into an underperforming program and not only recruit well but change the culture.. Wisconsin, for example, had lost their winning culture under Pete Waite and missed the tourney at least once. Wisconsin said nope, and brought in Sheffield who turned the ship around in the first season and hasn't looked back. Another examples from a while back: Anne Kordes at St. Louis. She got them to believethey could compete at the highest level, and just a couple of years into her tenure they beat Stanford in 4 at home, were in the top 25, and almost made the Sweet 16. Maybe the best example is Dave Shondell at Purdue. They were consistently in the bottom 2 or 3 of the Big Ten, and in his 2nd season he had them back in the NCAA tourney, and I think they've missed maybe once time since 2004. Looks like Jenn Flynn is reigniting Ohio State after some fumbles, too. How much more time do you think Davis needs? This is season #5 and he's never finished higher than 10th in the B1G, and his best record is .500. |
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Post by mongoliavolleyball on Apr 2, 2021 22:55:42 GMT -5
When you say "instill a winning culture" is that a joke? He won two national titles at Loyola. The only coaches active in volleyball with more rings are Russ Rose and John Cook. That's it. That's the list. He has already proven he can instill a winning culture, but it took about a decade at Loyola. There are a lot of tough questions that you can ask but thats not one of them. What a bonkers response. Did he instill a winning culture at Loyola? Yes. Has he done the same at Northwestern? Not a chance. Further, he's been MIA from the last matches for mysterious reasons and the team looks uninspired. I bet Maryland wins 3-0 tomorrow. Also, your analogy to Rose and Cook makes no sense. Of active head coaches do those three have the most NC rings across both men's and women's? Sure. But that's 100% not the point. It's about can a coach come into an underperforming program and not only recruit well but change the culture.. Wisconsin, for example, had lost their winning culture under Pete Waite and missed the tourney at least once. Wisconsin said nope, and brought in Sheffield who turned the ship around in the first season and hasn't looked back. Another examples from a while back: Anne Kordes at St. Louis. She got them to believethey could compete at the highest level, and just a couple of years into her tenure they beat Stanford in 4 at home, were in the top 25, and almost made the Sweet 16. Maybe the best example is Dave Shondell at Purdue. They were consistently in the bottom 2 or 3 of the Big Ten, and in his 2nd season he had them back in the NCAA tourney, and I think they've missed maybe once time since 2004. Looks like Jenn Flynn is reigniting Ohio State after some fumbles, too. How much more time do you think Davis needs? This is season #5 and he's never finished higher than 10th in the B1G, and his best record is .500. Those are interesting points you make... what do you think will happen after the season is done which I think tomorrow is their last match? |
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Post by ballvolley on Apr 2, 2021 23:14:18 GMT -5
What a bonkers response. Did he instill a winning culture at Loyola? Yes. Has he done the same at Northwestern? Not a chance. Further, he's been MIA from the last matches for mysterious reasons and the team looks uninspired. I bet Maryland wins 3-0 tomorrow. Also, your analogy to Rose and Cook makes no sense. Of active head coaches do those three have the most NC rings across both men's and women's? Sure. But that's 100% not the point. It's about can a coach come into an underperforming program and not only recruit well but change the culture.. Wisconsin, for example, had lost their winning culture under Pete Waite and missed the tourney at least once. Wisconsin said nope, and brought in Sheffield who turned the ship around in the first season and hasn't looked back. Another examples from a while back: Anne Kordes at St. Louis. She got them to believethey could compete at the highest level, and just a couple of years into her tenure they beat Stanford in 4 at home, were in the top 25, and almost made the Sweet 16. Maybe the best example is Dave Shondell at Purdue. They were consistently in the bottom 2 or 3 of the Big Ten, and in his 2nd season he had them back in the NCAA tourney, and I think they've missed maybe once time since 2004. Looks like Jenn Flynn is reigniting Ohio State after some fumbles, too. How much more time do you think Davis needs? This is season #5 and he's never finished higher than 10th in the B1G, and his best record is .500. Those are interesting points you make... what do you think will happen after the season is done which I think tomorrow is their last match? Fire Davis and his staff. They had their chance. Forfeitures (non-COVID related) and the HC a no-show, and potentially 0-4 to close out the season = a culture of losing. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 1:10:20 GMT -5
We also still don't know why Caroline Knop was asked to leave the team at Michigan... What? Yes we do. wait why |
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Post by saywhatnow on Apr 3, 2021 1:24:23 GMT -5
damn, here I thought she left on her own. |
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