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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Aug 13, 2021 16:43:53 GMT -5
I have to say I preferred the old ranking system now. I like the new one but I think teams should be awarded bonus points for placing in the top 4 in the majors (WCH and OG) I don't count the WCup anymore since it's format isn't the same and there is no Olympic qualification on the line. Why the FIVB is moving away from the World Cup is beyond me. I honestly didn't like the IOQT. USA would have gotten their noses bloodied if they would have had to have played Serbia or Italy in their 2019 form. USA wasn't ready in 2019. I still think it should be the World Cup which certifies 2-3 teams to the Olympics and THEN the IOQT and lastly the COQT. In 2019, the World Cup should have occurred BEFORE the IOQT. Anyways, I'm ranting. Moving on. Yeah, how many points did Korea gain from their top 4 finish? 3 3-2 wins against Japan, DR, and Turkey isn't gonna do their ranking a whole lot of good.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 13, 2021 17:06:52 GMT -5
I like the new one but I think teams should be awarded bonus points for placing in the top 4 in the majors (WCH and OG) I don't count the WCup anymore since it's format isn't the same and there is no Olympic qualification on the line. Why the FIVB is moving away from the World Cup is beyond me. I honestly didn't like the IOQT. USA would have gotten their noses bloodied if they would have had to have played Serbia or Italy in their 2019 form. USA wasn't ready in 2019. I still think it should be the World Cup which certifies 2-3 teams to the Olympics and THEN the IOQT and lastly the COQT. In 2019, the World Cup should have occurred BEFORE the IOQT. Anyways, I'm ranting. Moving on. Yeah, how many points did Korea gain from their top 4 finish? 3 3-2 wins against Japan, DR, and Turkey isn't gonna do their ranking a whole lot of good. But I don't think Korea should have gained much points, really. They won three five setters and only finished Top 4 with a favorable QF draw. Should Korea receive more points than Italy because they didn't get matched up against Serbia in the QF's? The old system was bad in that it awards points to teams simply for being there (especially problematic if they qualified via an easier route, such as what happened to World Cup teams).
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Post by trojansc on Aug 13, 2021 17:09:12 GMT -5
I like the new one but I think teams should be awarded bonus points for placing in the top 4 in the majors (WCH and OG) I don't count the WCup anymore since it's format isn't the same and there is no Olympic qualification on the line. Why the FIVB is moving away from the World Cup is beyond me. I honestly didn't like the IOQT. USA would have gotten their noses bloodied if they would have had to have played Serbia or Italy in their 2019 form. USA wasn't ready in 2019. I still think it should be the World Cup which certifies 2-3 teams to the Olympics and THEN the IOQT and lastly the COQT. In 2019, the World Cup should have occurred BEFORE the IOQT. Anyways, I'm ranting. Moving on. If the goal is to get the best teams in the Olympics, the COQT needs to be held first. Then the IOQT/World Cup/whatever. But the IOQT/World Cup qualifications need to be comprehensive and include the most amount of games/teams realistically possible to determine who gets into the Olympics. 4-team 'pods' for IOQT was a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 17:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah, how many points did Korea gain from their top 4 finish? 3 3-2 wins against Japan, DR, and Turkey isn't gonna do their ranking a whole lot of good. But I don't think Korea should have gained much points, really. They won three five setters and only finished Top 4 with a favorable QF draw. Should Korea receive more points than Italy because they didn't get matched up against Serbia in the QF's? The old system was bad in that it awards points to teams simply for being there (especially problematic if they qualified via an easier route, such as what happened to World Cup teams). Korea gained 15 points.
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Post by ToddyJ on Aug 13, 2021 18:33:43 GMT -5
I like the new one but I think teams should be awarded bonus points for placing in the top 4 in the majors (WCH and OG) I don't count the WCup anymore since it's format isn't the same and there is no Olympic qualification on the line. Why the FIVB is moving away from the World Cup is beyond me. I honestly didn't like the IOQT. USA would have gotten their noses bloodied if they would have had to have played Serbia or Italy in their 2019 form. USA wasn't ready in 2019. I still think it should be the World Cup which certifies 2-3 teams to the Olympics and THEN the IOQT and lastly the COQT. In 2019, the World Cup should have occurred BEFORE the IOQT. Anyways, I'm ranting. Moving on. If the goal is to get the best teams in the Olympics, the COQT needs to be held first. Then the IOQT/World Cup/whatever. But the IOQT/World Cup qualifications need to be comprehensive and include the most amount of games/teams realistically possible to determine who gets into the Olympics. 4-team 'pods' for IOQT was a joke. I actually really like this. Let's complain to the FIVB straight away.
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