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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 18:17:49 GMT -5
I think Orro is comparable in age/experience to Poulter, Carlini to Malinov.
I don't think we as the board appreciate it, because the US doesn't really do youth (but that seems to be improving) I think its easy to assume pro=older. I think we all kinda forget Haak would be like a junior right now. Egonu is six months younger than Lexi Sun.
The Italians are both a full year younger than the ones you are comparing them to. Yet it's the Americans we talk about as younger. I think it's just a generalization, as in experience. Both Orro and Malinov have set over 370 sets for top Italian teams. (I didn't count Orro's time with Club Italia) Poulter has half of that. I would assume Carlini is similar to Orro/Malinov's numbers (i dont have russia stats)
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Post by Reach on May 14, 2021 18:18:40 GMT -5
How does Italy not have a better setter than Malinov ? De Genarro is a better setter lmao Malinov is same level as Hancock… makes slightly better decisions but isn’t good blocker or server.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 18:19:41 GMT -5
I suspect Orro will finally get the starting job this summer. She had some injuries early in the quad that set back her taking that spot, but she was really good this season. This board also doesn't appreciate how young these setters are. Orro is younger than any USA setter, Malinov only just turned 25 a few months ago. I think Orro is comparable in age/experience to Poulter, Carlini to Malinov.
I don't think we as the board appreciate it, because the US doesn't really do youth (but that seems to be improving) I think its easy to assume pro=older. I think we all kinda forget Haak would be like a junior right now. Egonu is six months younger than Lexi Sun.
Lol imagine egonu in the NCAA
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 14, 2021 18:23:14 GMT -5
I think Orro is comparable in age/experience to Poulter, Carlini to Malinov.
I don't think we as the board appreciate it, because the US doesn't really do youth (but that seems to be improving) I think its easy to assume pro=older. I think we all kinda forget Haak would be like a junior right now. Egonu is six months younger than Lexi Sun.
Lol imagine egonu in the NCAA how many aces/set do you think she'll get
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Post by jjss on May 14, 2021 20:00:46 GMT -5
I think Orro is comparable in age/experience to Poulter, Carlini to Malinov.
I don't think we as the board appreciate it, because the US doesn't really do youth (but that seems to be improving) I think its easy to assume pro=older. I think we all kinda forget Haak would be like a junior right now. Egonu is six months younger than Lexi Sun.
Lol imagine egonu in the NCAA We would not have to worry about her until Paris 2024 or Los Angels 2028.
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Post by Reach on May 14, 2021 20:02:32 GMT -5
Lol imagine egonu in the NCAA We would not have to worry about her until Paris 2024 or Los Angels 2028. To be fair, I think Egonu would be on any national team at her age. She’s unique.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:04:05 GMT -5
carlini must really hate her middles and thats why she doesn't set them. she loves a good shove (if you know, you know) well I know at least rainbowbadger will
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Post by Disc808 on May 14, 2021 20:05:49 GMT -5
We would not have to worry about her until Paris 2024 or Los Angels 2028. To be fair, I think Egonu would be on any national team at her age. She’s unique. Lol you never know with Karch
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 14, 2021 20:15:54 GMT -5
To be fair, I think Egonu would be on any national team at her age. She’s unique. Lol you never know with Karch she'll have to be a lefty then
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Post by Disc808 on May 14, 2021 20:39:38 GMT -5
Lol you never know with Karch she'll have to be a lefty then This got me thinking, what happened to the Karch that invited Hayley Hodson to the Senior NT gym when she was a high schooler (she was literally on the same roster as MBH)
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Post by ironhammer on May 14, 2021 20:40:42 GMT -5
she'll have to be a lefty then This got me thinking, what happened to the Karch that invited Hayley Hodson to the Senior NT gym when she was a high schooler (she was literally on the same roster as MBH) He changed...I guess.
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Post by n00b on May 14, 2021 21:13:25 GMT -5
she'll have to be a lefty then This got me thinking, what happened to the Karch that invited Hayley Hodson to the Senior NT gym when she was a high schooler (she was literally on the same roster as MBH) Do you think there have been athletes who have been capable that have been passed over? Some athletes have a lot of upside, but she was uniquely polished for an 18-year-old. The AVCA freshmen of the year since Hodson have been Plummer (ok, maybe fair to ask why), two middles who aren't particularly quick and whose games would not immediately translate to international volleyball (Rettke and Gneiting), a non-American (Jehlarova) and Londot - VERY good, not nearly as pro-ready as Hodson. I think Hodson was uniquely good at 18.
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Post by Disc808 on May 14, 2021 21:28:19 GMT -5
This got me thinking, what happened to the Karch that invited Hayley Hodson to the Senior NT gym when she was a high schooler (she was literally on the same roster as MBH) Do you think there have been athletes who have been capable that have been passed over? Some athletes have a lot of upside, but she was uniquely polished for an 18-year-old. The AVCA freshmen of the year since Hodson have been Plummer (ok, maybe fair to ask why), two middles who aren't particularly quick and whose games would not immediately translate to international volleyball (Rettke and Gneiting), a non-American (Jehlarova) and Londot - VERY good, not nearly as pro-ready as Hodson. I think Hodson was uniquely good at 18. Yes, Hodson was special at her age. Anyways, I’m not saying he needed like 10 high schoolers or college freshmen in the gym I’m just saying the development of younger players / integrating the newer generations of (college) VB players has not gone too well. And that the philosophy that allowed Karch to give Hodson a chance did not seem to carry on.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 21:31:51 GMT -5
You can't really compare American 18 year olds to most internationals. Their youth scene/organization is so much better than ours.
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 14, 2021 21:50:15 GMT -5
You can't really compare American 18 year olds to most internationals. Their youth scene/organization is so much better than ours. it's pretty rare for 18 year olds on pro/national teams. usually they're still stuck in youth teams.
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