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Post by hornfanaustin on Apr 23, 2021 8:19:24 GMT -5
Yeah I saw Hilley hurt her ankle, but I was talking more about set choices. Like she was setting Loberg and Haggerty when Robinson seemed to be hot and have a better matchup. I'm a new volleyball fan so I'm not super knowledgable but it seemed that Hilley was setting the wrong people at the wrong times. Gabriel looked good to me. That's very impressive that she beat a starter. What do you think of her overall? I like her, because of the fierceness with which she plays. She's a team first player that has improved each year she played. That's the key. She has improved her play and placement near the net and this year she's finally broken through and understands how each middle wants their ball set. Texas is hated by some volleyball fans because our sets to the outside are arcing moonballs (we like it that way!)
She's not first team or second team All American setter, although some rabid Longhorn fans will disagree with me on that. But our former setter won't have gotten us this far. (I don't put her name down because that'll just erupt in a long trolling and counter-troll thread).
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Post by ngc9494 on Apr 23, 2021 8:48:33 GMT -5
Didn't realize TX has almost everyone back next year. No seniors; just one graduate student. Everyones back - Elliott said it in a pre-conference interview Wahoo!
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 23, 2021 8:51:40 GMT -5
So is Big 10 still the “arguable” best conference in the country? 🤔 Let me put it this way. Let Texas, Kentucky or anyone else schedule home and aways with Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Nebraska in the same season for the next five years and see how well they do. This %*$# again. Even the Big 10 schools don't play that schedule. Quit being a conference homer and accept that Texas just took down three of those schools 3-1, 3-1, 3-0.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2021 8:51:46 GMT -5
Anyone else noticed how awesome black girls have performed in this tournament? And don't come at me cos this is a black girls appreciation post. They bring extra juice to every team that has had a deep run. Note to coaches, diversify your teams and reap the rewards. You have nothing to lose! Yes! And the teams that started more athletes of color won their matches... Wisconsin started just one and Washington started zero.
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 23, 2021 8:53:37 GMT -5
Texas should create their own conference They basically do have their own conference already. But while many other conferences have talked to Texas about having them join, all the major conferences share revenue, jointly manage TV rights, and would not accept Texas having their own LHN. Texas isn't interested in giving up the LHN. You're living about 10 years in the past. LHN will not be an issue in the next round of realignment.
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 23, 2021 8:57:12 GMT -5
Ah my apologies then. That's a pretty cool story! No worries. These days, you expect transfers and under-the-table pre-portal recruitment of players. She has a health-related type major and chose Texas for grad school. I still find it mind blowing she didn't drop a DM onto the coaches and hint around to see if she could get a scholarship while going to grad school. Maybe a club coach of hers from the past reached out and told the Texas staff she was there? Unsure. Also, I don't get the feeling she leapt at the offer to play with Texas. Stories I read said she mulled it over for a while before agreeing.
The one thing is look at her shoes. They're an older model of neon yellow-green that the previous years team wore. The current team's shoes are grey. I'm purely guessing that since they found her so late, they hadn't ordered shoes for her and went into the extra shoe inventory and found a pair for her to play in. Let's not get carried away on the shoe story. She's been with the team since August. They've had plenty of time to buy her full complement of shoes. I suspect she wears those by personal preference, not because they are the only ones she was given.
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Post by courtwatchers on Apr 23, 2021 9:05:46 GMT -5
Could it simply be that Rettke and Company ran up against one of the quickest/strongest/athletic middle game they have ever had to play against? I think so....
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 23, 2021 9:16:20 GMT -5
Anyone else noticed how awesome black girls have performed in this tournament? And don't come at me cos this is a black girls appreciation post. They bring extra juice to every team that has had a deep run. Note to coaches, diversify your teams and reap the rewards. You have nothing to lose! Yes! And the teams that started more athletes of color won their matches... Wisconsin started just one and Washington started zero. Ironically, every black player on Kentucky is from the state of Texas.
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Post by eov4nu on Apr 23, 2021 9:23:25 GMT -5
Yeah I saw Hilley hurt her ankle, but I was talking more about set choices. Like she was setting Loberg and Haggerty when Robinson seemed to be hot and have a better matchup. I'm a new volleyball fan so I'm not super knowledgable but it seemed that Hilley was setting the wrong people at the wrong times. Gabriel looked good to me. That's very impressive that she beat a starter. What do you think of her overall? Jhenna Gabriel has been harshly criticized on this message board over the last several seasons by many, particularly by a handful of Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Stanford fans. Some of the criticism has been warranted, but I didn't think the degree to which some put her down was accurate.
Even this season when she was named the Big 12 setter of the year, the same handful of posters were very disrespectful. She was very deserving of her 3rd Team All-American recognition. And, as Paul Sunderland mentioned a couple of times last night, she is the most improved setter in his opinion; and, he would know as he has called many matches the last couple of season while Jhenna was setting, but only a couple this season.
Gabriel does a nice job. It's not like she's throwing up garbage for those hitters to hit and they bail her out with their athleticism, she is making them successful.
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Post by medusa on Apr 23, 2021 9:28:38 GMT -5
Texas have the most power and quicker players on the right, middle, left. IMO
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 23, 2021 9:29:20 GMT -5
Could it simply be that Rettke and Company ran up against one of the quickest/strongest/athletic middle game they have ever had to play against? I think so.... That is my opinion also. I thought it was apparent that Texas was concentrating on not letting Rettke having unchallenged attacks and the two middles have the vertical jump to keep Rettke from consistently hitting over them.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Apr 23, 2021 9:30:16 GMT -5
Jhenna Gabriel has been harshly criticized on this message board over the last several seasons by many, particularly by a handful of Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Stanford fans. Some of the criticism has been warranted, but I didn't think the degree to which some put her down was accurate.
Even this season when she was named the Big 12 setter of the year, the same handful of posters were very disrespectful. She was very deserving of her 3rd Team All-American recognition. And, as Paul Sunderland mentioned a couple of times last night, she is the most improved setter in his opinion; and, he would know as he has called many matches the last couple of season while Jhenna was setting, but only a couple this season.
Gabriel does a nice job. It's not like she's throwing up garbage for those hitters to hit and they bail her out with their athleticism, she is making them successful. I agree, always been a fan of Gabriel. I do, however, think the difference between her and Lilley will be on display on Saturday night, and you'll be able to see that difference clearly. Not a knock on Gabriel, more of a testament to how incredible Lilley is. I hope Gabriel takes that personally and outperforms herself from last night.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Apr 23, 2021 9:33:09 GMT -5
Could it simply be that Rettke and Company ran up against one of the quickest/strongest/athletic middle game they have ever had to play against? I think so.... That is my opinion also. I thought it was apparent that Texas was concentrating on not letting Rettke having unchallenged attacks and the two middles have the vertical jump to keep Rettke from consistently hitting over them I think it's worth noting that Texas has almost always (like we're talking since at least 2007) had quicker / stronger / more athletic middles than 99% of their opponents, but have never before been able to utilize them to their full extent. Outside of the 2009 team, Texas has never had good ball control, but this 2020-21 version of the Longhorns has incredible ball control. This team minus O'Brien is an entirely different, one-dimensional team.
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Post by rampageripster on Apr 23, 2021 9:38:45 GMT -5
I can see Texas in SEC... I don’t know about B1G... We received an invitation from the B1G several years ago. So, I believe that door is not closed. There has been no formal invitation from the Big Ten to Texas. There may have been talks by powerful people behind closed doors, but nothing was ever concrete beyond blogger speculation. Think you are confusing it with the Pac-12 who got into far more advanced talks that included bringing a handful of B12 teams but fell apart cause of Texas Tech and Oklahoma St.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Apr 23, 2021 9:40:37 GMT -5
So is Big 10 still the “arguable” best conference in the country? 🤔 Let me put it this way. Let Texas, Kentucky or anyone else schedule home and aways with Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Nebraska in the same season for the next five years and see how well they do. Well, Texas just took out Penn State, Nebraska and Minnesota so ☑️ and Kentucky just swept Purdue☑️
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