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Post by greatlakesvballer on Sept 13, 2021 12:36:18 GMT -5
Calm down, people. That's why she's NOT playing. They have professionals in the Athletic Department that work full-time on this sort of thing!
It seems to be wacky season with Badger fans, and we not even into the B1G season yet.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 13, 2021 12:44:49 GMT -5
Calm down, people. That's why she's NOT playing. They have professionals in the Athletic Department that work full-time on this sort of thing! Right. I mean. Keep her out for as long as necessary to let that thing heal.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2021 12:46:11 GMT -5
Not worried! I'm glad they are being cautious with it -if true.
I've known people with such problems. They can be stubborn. And you really really don't want a rupture.
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Post by volleybadger on Sept 13, 2021 12:47:03 GMT -5
Only that she’s “day to day.” Punzel has it as an “undisclosed injury.” On Friday evening, someone with knowledge from a trainer said it's a strained Achilles tendon. I think it’s a positive sign that it seems the coaches/training staff have let her participate in more and more warm up drills prior to each match. Prior to Dayton, they shut her down before stretching. On Friday she was stretching with the team, and from what I’ve heard she was hitting yesterday before the Marquette match.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 13, 2021 13:03:42 GMT -5
Only that she’s “day to day.” Punzel has it as an “undisclosed injury.” On Friday evening, someone with knowledge from a trainer said it's a strained Achilles tendon. Every year during a TV timeout at one football game or another, they will bring the volleyball team out onto the field to introduce them to the crowd (as well as other teams, one at a time, as a way of hyping the team, congratulating them for winning championships, and to sell tickets, etc). A couple years ago, there were I think three or even four of them in walking boots as they went out and then came off the field - Tiffany Clark, Tionna Williams, I forget who else. They were 'preventative' to help keep nagging problems from worsening, etc; nobody missed any matches, as best I recall The volleyball team was introduced during the Penn State game on Sept 4th, the morning after the second Dayton match. Orzol was NOT wearing any sort of walking boot! (And as far as I could see, neither was anybody else). If she had a "strained Achilles", she would just about certainly have been wearing one.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Sept 13, 2021 13:07:20 GMT -5
I had the experience of listening to the Wisconsin vs. Marquette yesterday on the radio, and then going home and watching on YouTube (terrible audio mistake on that, but I could still view).
Sheffield was asked about Demps' performance afterwards, and he seemed a bit, um, unimpressed with her leading with 14 kills. After watching, I thought she was okay, too...but agreed with him.
I think pushing her to be great right now is a good idea...actually it seems like ideal timing.
My question is, shouldn't the line-up be solidified before meeting Minnesota on Oct. 1? Hope it will be...but sure are a lot of factors to consider.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2021 13:23:35 GMT -5
Demps is still a little raw at this level where she can't dominate quite like she did in lower levels. But she has a lot of upside and showed me a range of shots, which was rewarding. She is still finding her feet a bit and getting a good court sense.
When we play Minnesota, it will by default be Orzol and Loberg. If Demps and Jardine can pick it up, one may displace Loberg in that lineup. If Orzol is still out, it's good we're giving them both some high level experience so they can fill in for her when needed.
That is my read on the situation.
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 13, 2021 17:51:35 GMT -5
Demps is still a little raw at this level where she can't dominate quite like she did in lower levels. But she has a lot of upside and showed me a range of shots, which was rewarding. She is still finding her feet a bit and getting a good court sense. When we play Minnesota, it will by default be Orzol and Loberg. If Demps and Jardine can pick it up, one may displace Loberg in that lineup. If Orzol is still out, it's good we're giving them both some high level experience so they can fill in for her when needed. That is my read on the situation. The tip that missed the line instead of going into the donut, where there were no Marquette defenders, was one example of this, but she had some really good swings as well. Nothing wrong with high expectations. I am sure she has them too, but make sure they are couched, at least for the Marquette match, as pretty good, but you can be even better. 14 kills at .276 in a 3 set match against a good team is not shabby.
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Post by ndodge on Sept 13, 2021 18:25:12 GMT -5
On Friday evening, someone with knowledge from a trainer said it's a strained Achilles tendon. I think it’s a positive sign that it seems the coaches/training staff have let her participate in more and more warm up drills prior to each match. Prior to Dayton, they shut her down before stretching. On Friday she was stretching with the team, and from what I’ve heard she was hitting yesterday before the Marquette match. She was doing a lot more warmup activity yesterday than the week before and hit some, so I wondered for a minute if she actually was going to play (didn't think she would, but I did have a moment of hope).
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Post by TuesdayGone on Sept 13, 2021 18:42:05 GMT -5
Another great video
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Post by robtearle on Sept 13, 2021 18:47:10 GMT -5
Watch 'the bench' at 40-45 second mark.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2021 19:11:13 GMT -5
Demps is still a little raw at this level where she can't dominate quite like she did in lower levels. But she has a lot of upside and showed me a range of shots, which was rewarding. She is still finding her feet a bit and getting a good court sense. When we play Minnesota, it will by default be Orzol and Loberg. If Demps and Jardine can pick it up, one may displace Loberg in that lineup. If Orzol is still out, it's good we're giving them both some high level experience so they can fill in for her when needed. That is my read on the situation. The tip that missed the line instead of going into the donut, where there were no Marquette defenders, was one example of this, but she had some really good swings as well. Nothing wrong with high expectations. I am sure she has them too, but make sure they are couched, at least for the Marquette match, as pretty good, but you can be even better. 14 kills at .276 in a 3 set match against a good team is not shabby. She was hitting 0.400 going into that last set, but some dodgy set choices by Hilley, some poor choices by Demps, like you just mentioned, ended up producing a lot of errors that last set. One bad set is not something to cry about. They happen.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 13, 2021 22:06:34 GMT -5
The tip that missed the line instead of going into the donut, where there were no Marquette defenders, was one example of this, but she had some really good swings as well. Nothing wrong with high expectations. I am sure she has them too, but make sure they are couched, at least for the Marquette match, as pretty good, but you can be even better. 14 kills at .276 in a 3 set match against a good team is not shabby. She was hitting 0.400 going into that last set, but some dodgy set choices by Hilley, some poor choices by Demps, like you just mentioned, ended up producing a lot of errors that last set. One bad set is not something to cry about. They happen. 4th set vs Kentucky: three kills, two errors.
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Post by l291185 on Sept 14, 2021 11:08:23 GMT -5
just a quick tease...here some stats about difense and SR:
Passing Stats (3pt. scale) - 2020 volleymetrics: Barnes: 2.18 on 217 attempts Civita: 2.26 on 122 attempts Kraft: 2.00 on 107 attempts
Passing Stats (3pt. scale) – 2021 volleymetrics: Barnes: 2.37 on 71 attempts Civita: 2.53 on 54 attempts Boyer: 2.14 on 63 attempts Match by Match stas (on 3pt. Scale) TCU: Barnes 2.87 – Civita: 2.57 – Boyer: 2.20 Baylor: Barnes 2.19 – Civita: 2.50 – Boyer: 2.56 Dayton 1: Barnes 2.17 – Civita: 2.60 – Boyer: 2.25 Dayton 2: Barnes 2.42 – Civita: 2.20 – Boyer: 2.41 Kentucky: Barnes: 2.18 – Civita: 2.92 – Boyer: 1.55
Defense Stats – 2021 volleymetrics: Barnes: 53digs (79% on balls touched) 64% Digs converted in attacks and 18% converted into points Civita: 39digs (90% on balls touched) 80% Digs converted in attacks and 41% converted into points Boyer: 31digs (81% on balls touched) 68% Digs converted in attacks and 23% converted into points
this numbers may show, partially, the difference, so far, compared to last year on less Out Of Systems plays and the incrase on middles' attacks efficiencies.
when Badgers will face top 4 teams (i.e. Kentucky, Texas etc..) a match won or lost can depends on very small details and Dana is clearly the best asset to leverage on and must be put on her best conditions to score. By reading figures: Civita looks the most consistent among the 3 littles but playing as DS is out of the court for 50% of the rotations. Dominating the set you won't see this affecting the results at all but when fighting a set point by point can be very different (i.e. with Kentucky on 3rd set on 24-24 without subs left on the back court only Barnes was there and got aced)
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 14, 2021 11:45:21 GMT -5
Good info. Those passing numbers are a huge improvement on last year - which matches the eye test. Interested in Orzol's numbers in the TCU and Baylor matches. You can also see Boyer breaking down a bit after being targeted in the Kentucky match, which is a big reason it got close in the end and the badgers attack numbers went down.
Civitas' 2.53 is spectacular, but Barnes' 2.37 is still pretty damn good so far. Pretty happy with both of those, and Boyer looks good too considering the one bad match.
It's hard to assess those dig numbers without considering where she is playing in D and the percentage of attacks she is touching - she could just have more range and get to more difficult balls. Is she in a position where she is dealing with difficult tools off the block? Another thing to think about is that if she is digging, she is not setting, and that could have an effect on conversion. I don't know what their out of system setting efficiencies are.
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