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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 14:13:14 GMT -5
Your Gators? 90% of your posts have been shots at MW… we get it… she should have played you in that big match… seriously… she’s still forgotten twice as much about mentoring young athletes as your likely to know given your time here… that or your DD Couldn’t swing it… they lost to Baylor and Stanford… the sky isn’t falling-thats your self confidence… it’ll be ok I would say most of the Gator fans in question have weathered the storm for years. I am not good with stats, or history so I am not going to give you numbers. I am going to speak from being a fan. Year after year Gators have some of the best talent on the volleyball court (hence so many haters). But you would have to agree whether its my DD not playing or lack of development of talent Coach Wise is way past due when it comes to winning a National Championship. If this would of been any other sport she would of been gone a long time ago. You would have to agree it is getting harder and harder to defend Coach Wise. So until she either wins and national championship or rides off into the wild blue yonder expect more and more criticism. It is what it is! If natl championships is the be all of declaring success then you’re metric is poor… and I would most certainly NOT agree that defending MW is getting harder and harder… how many diff programs have won a natl championship since you’ve “been a fan”… or since your DD has been playing… And this isn’t about getting used to criticism… it’s about the critics being ignorant about what they’re choosing to critique… |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 14:21:47 GMT -5
I would say most of the Gator fans in question have weathered the storm for years. I am not good with stats, or history so I am not going to give you numbers. I am going to speak from being a fan. Year after year Gators have some of the best talent on the volleyball court (hence so many haters). But you would have to agree whether its my DD not playing or lack of development of talent Coach Wise is way past due when it comes to winning a National Championship. If this would of been any other sport she would of been gone a long time ago. You would have to agree it is getting harder and harder to defend Coach Wise. So until she either wins and national championship or rides off into the wild blue yonder expect more and more criticism. It is what it is! If natl championships is the be all of declaring success then you’re metric is poor… and I would most certainly NOT agree that defending MW is getting harder and harder… how many diff programs have won a natl championship since you’ve “been a fan”… or since your DD has been playing… And this isn’t about getting used to criticism… it’s about the critics being ignorant about what they’re choosing to critique… What do you think of Florida's OOS offense? They are hitting .157 in trans in their last 4 matches. Their opponents are hitting .245. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 14, 2021 14:29:58 GMT -5
Your Gators? 90% of your posts have been shots at MW… we get it… she should have played you in that big match… seriously… she’s still forgotten twice as much about mentoring young athletes as your likely to know given your time here… that or your DD Couldn’t swing it… they lost to Baylor and Stanford… the sky isn’t falling-thats your self confidence… it’ll be ok I would say most of the Gator fans in question have weathered the storm for years. I am not good with stats, or history so I am not going to give you numbers. I am going to speak from being a fan. Year after year Gators have some of the best talent on the volleyball court (hence so many haters). But you would have to agree whether its my DD not playing or lack of development of talent Coach Wise is way past due when it comes to winning a National Championship. If this would of been any other sport she would of been gone a long time ago. You would have to agree it is getting harder and harder to defend Coach Wise. So until she either wins and national championship or rides off into the wild blue yonder expect more and more criticism. It is what it is! What sport is firing the coach that wins the conference 95% of the time, virtually always around top ten, consistent wins in NCAA tournaments and multiple final fours? I’d be interested in any let alone most other sports who have fired that coach. |
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Post by trainermch on Sept 14, 2021 14:32:20 GMT -5
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 14:39:02 GMT -5
This will be more than a great in state vb match.. it will be an emotional time to remember Bri… |
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 14:45:23 GMT -5
If natl championships is the be all of declaring success then you’re metric is poor… and I would most certainly NOT agree that defending MW is getting harder and harder… how many diff programs have won a natl championship since you’ve “been a fan”… or since your DD has been playing… And this isn’t about getting used to criticism… it’s about the critics being ignorant about what they’re choosing to critique… What do you think of Florida's OOS offense? They are hitting .157 in trans in their last 4 matches. Their opponents are hitting .245. We’ll.., that’s two diff metrics… 1) OOS 2) transition offense… and being in transition doesn’t automatically mean that it’s OOS… and I’m not going to log into volleymetrics or spend any inordinate amount of time breaking down match footage for a VT post… knee jerk response would be they’ll need to do better to beat Baylor and Stanford next time… |
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Sept 14, 2021 15:04:30 GMT -5
I would say most of the Gator fans in question have weathered the storm for years. I am not good with stats, or history so I am not going to give you numbers. I am going to speak from being a fan. Year after year Gators have some of the best talent on the volleyball court (hence so many haters). But you would have to agree whether its my DD not playing or lack of development of talent Coach Wise is way past due when it comes to winning a National Championship. If this would of been any other sport she would of been gone a long time ago. You would have to agree it is getting harder and harder to defend Coach Wise. So until she either wins and national championship or rides off into the wild blue yonder expect more and more criticism. It is what it is! What sport is firing the coach that wins the conference 95% of the time, virtually always around top ten, consistent wins in NCAA tournaments and multiple final fours? I’d be interested in any let alone most other sports who have fired that coach. Mick Haley was fired |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 14, 2021 15:44:59 GMT -5
What sport is firing the coach that wins the conference 95% of the time, virtually always around top ten, consistent wins in NCAA tournaments and multiple final fours? I’d be interested in any let alone most other sports who have fired that coach. Mick Haley was fired That was definitely an outlier, especially after they lost in 5 in the regional final. I forget, which apparently badly coached program did they lose to in that match? USC's athletic department administration was a clown car, let's be honest. |
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 15:55:25 GMT -5
That was definitely an outlier, especially after they lost in 5 in the regional final. I forget, which apparently badly coached program did they lose to in that match? USC's athletic department administration was a clown car, let's be honest. And then there was a lawsuit… anyone know where that went… |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 16:14:43 GMT -5
What do you think of Florida's OOS offense? They are hitting .157 in trans in their last 4 matches. Their opponents are hitting .245. We’ll.., that’s two diff metrics… 1) OOS 2) transition offense… and being in transition doesn’t automatically mean that it’s OOS… and I’m not going to log into volleymetrics or spend any inordinate amount of time breaking down match footage for a VT post… knee jerk response would be they’ll need to do better to beat Baylor and Stanford next time… VM doesn't have OOS hitting efficiency but trans efficiency acts as a solid proxy in this case. You were defending the staff and said their critics are ignorant. I've been critical of the Gators OOS offense (not the players, the system) so I asked you about it. Your reply was condescending AND ignorant. With fans like that, Wise doesn't need critics. |
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 16:22:10 GMT -5
We’ll.., that’s two diff metrics… 1) OOS 2) transition offense… and being in transition doesn’t automatically mean that it’s OOS… and I’m not going to log into volleymetrics or spend any inordinate amount of time breaking down match footage for a VT post… knee jerk response would be they’ll need to do better to beat Baylor and Stanford next time… VM doesn't have OOS hitting efficiency but trans efficiency acts as a solid proxy in this case. You were defending the staff and said their critics are ignorant. I've been critical of the Gators OOS offense (not the players, the system) so I asked you about it. Your reply was condescending AND ignorant. With fans like that, Wise doesn't need critics. Vm will absolutely allow me to get OOS numbers…I’m sorry you don’t know how to do that… (that was condescending)… and just because you think that transition efficiency and out of system efficiency are the same doesn’t mean that anyone else needs to… so attempt to be superior to someone else… if you think that you can out coach Mary or her staff then by all means suit up and best of luck to you… I’ll keep being a fan… you keep being… well… whatever you’re being… they lost to two very good teams… so I’ll stick with “they sky isn’t falling” |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 16:41:11 GMT -5
VM doesn't have OOS hitting efficiency but trans efficiency acts as a solid proxy in this case. You were defending the staff and said their critics are ignorant. I've been critical of the Gators OOS offense (not the players, the system) so I asked you about it. Your reply was condescending AND ignorant. With fans like that, Wise doesn't need critics. Vm will absolutely allow me to get OOS numbers…I’m sorry you don’t know how to do that… (that was condescending)… and just because you think that transition efficiency and out of system efficiency are the same doesn’t mean that anyone else needs to… so attempt to be superior to someone else… if you think that you can out coach Mary or her staff then by all means suit up and best of luck to you… I’ll keep being a fan… you keep being… well… whatever you’re being… they lost to two very good teams… so I’ll stick with “they sky isn’t falling” Interesting strawman. I didn't say the sky was falling but criticism of their OOS offense isn't ignorant. I also never said OOS = trans. I said it is a quick proxy because in those 4 matches. If you want to get the OOS numbers, feel free but if you knew half as much as you think you do, you'd be able to see the issues Florida has OOS and why they hurt them against good teams. |
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 17:02:50 GMT -5
Vm will absolutely allow me to get OOS numbers…I’m sorry you don’t know how to do that… (that was condescending)… and just because you think that transition efficiency and out of system efficiency are the same doesn’t mean that anyone else needs to… so attempt to be superior to someone else… if you think that you can out coach Mary or her staff then by all means suit up and best of luck to you… I’ll keep being a fan… you keep being… well… whatever you’re being… they lost to two very good teams… so I’ll stick with “they sky isn’t falling” Interesting strawman. I didn't say the sky was falling but criticism of their OOS offense isn't ignorant. I also never said OOS = trans. I said it is a quick proxy because in those 4 matches. If you want to get the OOS numbers, feel free but if you knew half as much as you think you do, you'd be able to see the issues Florida has OOS and why they hurt them against good teams. And again… they lost to Baylor and Stanford… it’s gonna be ok… and your “criticism” of some preseason matches in support of the “Mary can’t coach” crowd is far more telling of ignorance than my support |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 17:06:23 GMT -5
Interesting strawman. I didn't say the sky was falling but criticism of their OOS offense isn't ignorant. I also never said OOS = trans. I said it is a quick proxy because in those 4 matches. If you want to get the OOS numbers, feel free but if you knew half as much as you think you do, you'd be able to see the issues Florida has OOS and why they hurt them against good teams. And again… they lost to Baylor and Stanford… it’s gonna be ok… and your “criticism” of some preseason matches in support of the “Mary can’t coach” crowd is far more telling of ignorance than my support Another strawman. I didn't say Mary couldn't coach. I asked you what you thought of their OOS offense. You do seem very defensive though, so that's probably why you don't know anything about that. |
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Post by sevb on Sept 14, 2021 17:10:19 GMT -5
And again… they lost to Baylor and Stanford… it’s gonna be ok… and your “criticism” of some preseason matches in support of the “Mary can’t coach” crowd is far more telling of ignorance than my support Another strawman. I didn't say Mary couldn't coach. I asked you what you thought of their OOS offense. You do seem very defensive though, so that's probably why you don't know anything about that. Their “OOS/transition/whatever else you want to throw in” is the same as most everyone’s… give it to the pin kids… wonder how Samedys arm is!? What exactly would you do… set the libero… |
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