NCAA Softball Selection -- Does the committee love the B1G?

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May 23, 2021 19:03:27 GMT -5 trojansc said:

What a play.. Minnesota pinch-hitter stumbled out of the batters box and falls down, but UCLA's SS boots a ground ball, she recovers to throw her out on time, but the throw is wild and Minnesota's runner gets back up, and actually advances to second.

Tying run on 2nd in the bottom of the 7th. Completely wild.

In Minneapolis we had a child abduction notice on the TV screen. I didn’t see this play...lol

[trojansc]

So Oregon/Texas looking like a 9pm local start, or well they're trying for.

Interesting, since Oregon lost to Texas State in their 1st match, they haven't played Texas. That means if they only get 1 of the games in by tomorrow night, and Oregon wins, they would actually win because the H2H takes precedence if 6/7 Regional games have been played. Would be super ironic and dramatic if it happens.

There's rain scheduled ALL day and night tomorrow for Austin, Texas ... so this is a very realistic possibility.

I also wonder if they will force the if necessary game tonight or if it gets played tomorrow. The wording in the Pre-Champ manual is ambiguous.

"(3) If competition cannot be completed Sunday, the last time to start a regional championship game (i.e., Games 6 and “if” 7) to complete regional finals is the Monday immediately preceding the super regional at 11 p.m.;"

Does that mean only Game 6 has to be started by 11pm, and the game 7 that immediately follows it can start at any time as long as Game 6 of the Regional Championship was started before 11? Not really sure.

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My reading would be game 7 must start by then

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May 23, 2021 19:25:07 GMT -5 @dc said:

My reading would be game 7 must start by then

I also found this part:

If competition has to be extended to Monday, it must be completed without starting a game after 11 p.m. Monday (if the
regional final begins before 11 p.m. and an “if necessary” game becomes necessary to determine the regional champion,
that game will immediately follow). Note: Each round gets one extra day to finish the round.

I'm just not sure. That leads to me to think that it would be okay to start it after 11 because "that game will immediately follow". The other post leads me to think Game 7 must start by 11pm Monday. 

Weird.

[trojansc]

Nonetheless, they are attempting to play. Per the manual, it says that they should not start after 11. That might mean only one game today (which is obviously enough if Texas wins anyways), they are definitely cutting it close. And, if Oregon wins, they won't care about forcing a game 7 tomorrow. Texas sure as hell will find every way to get it played.

[trojansc]

Obstruction call goes against Michigan.

Also, announcers mirroring the mikegarrison post earlier in the regional, talking about how the weather has been completely bonkers and different everyday here in this Seattle Regional.

[mikegarrison]

Huskies one inning away from a 2-0 win, forcing a winner-takes-all game.

May weather in Seattle isn't really "bonkers". It's usually cool-ish and has short, frequent rain. When I was in high school I used to judge whether we were likely to have a rainout that day by checking to see if it was raining around lunchtime. If it was, I would figure the rain would be over in time to play. It if wasn't raining at lunchtime, I figured that increased the odds it would be raining at game time.

But in late May it can get really scorching hot. 90 degrees F, even. But if it's not hot, it's usually chilly. It's rarely just warm in May.

June is, on average, colder and rainier than May. Summer starts in July.

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May 23, 2021 19:20:05 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Does that mean only Game 6 has to be started by 11pm, and the game 7 that immediately follows it can start at any time as long as Game 6 of the Regional Championship was started before 11? Not really sure.

In 2009, Washington was playing in the regionals in Massachusetts (because they couldn't host, because they didn't have lights at their stadium at that time). That game went until really late in the night *here* in Seattle. I don't remember how late it was in Massachusetts, but I'm pretty sure it was actually "the next day" by the time they finished.

OK, just looked it up. Here's what happened.

The game started at 8:05pm in Massachusetts. Huskies scored in the first inning. UMass tied it in the 4th. Then they played 10 more innings scoreless.

In the top of the 15th inning, Washington scored 5 runs. They won in 15 innings 6-1. Danielle Lawrie pitched 22 innings that evening. All 7 of the first game (UMass 5-1) and all 15 in the second game (Washington 6-1).

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May 23, 2021 21:25:16 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

May 23, 2021 19:20:05 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Does that mean only Game 6 has to be started by 11pm, and the game 7 that immediately follows it can start at any time as long as Game 6 of the Regional Championship was started before 11? Not really sure.

In 2009, Washington was playing in the regionals in Massachusetts (because they couldn't host, because they didn't have lights at their stadium at that time). That game went until really late in the night *here* in Seattle. I don't remember how late it was in Massachusetts, but I'm pretty sure it was actually "the next day" by the time they finished.

I remember that. But, it was actually a Regional. They sent UW to UMass for the *Regionals* because they could get three two cupcake drive-ins to UMass and Washington wasn't going to be a drive-in anywhere (obviously). At the time, UMass was a very respectable team. Not anymore.

But I actually understand the requirement to have lights, particularly for rain delay situations. The thing with that situation was the game was actually started at 8pm, but it went 15 innings and didn't finish until after 1am local time.

gohuskies.com/sports/softball/stats/2009/umass/boxscore/7297

That was also the if-necessary game. It's crazy to think UMass had 8 innings where they needed to score just a single run to walk off and eliminate what would end up to be the eventual National Champions.

2009 was one of the most wild NCAA softball tournaments in history. North Dakota State and Jacksonville State made Super Regional.

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May 23, 2021 21:32:39 GMT -5 trojansc said:

May 23, 2021 21:25:16 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

In 2009, Washington was playing in the regionals in Massachusetts (because they couldn't host, because they didn't have lights at their stadium at that time). That game went until really late in the night *here* in Seattle. I don't remember how late it was in Massachusetts, but I'm pretty sure it was actually "the next day" by the time they finished.

I remember that. But, it was actually a Regional. They sent UW to UMass for the *Regionals* because they could get three two cupcake drive-ins to UMass and Washington wasn't going to be a drive-in anywhere (obviously). At the time, UMass was a very respectable team. Not anymore.

But I actually understand the requirement to have lights, particularly for rain delay situations. The thing with that situation was the game was actually started at 8pm, but it went 15 innings and didn't finish until after 1am local time.

gohuskies.com/sports/softball/stats/2009/umass/boxscore/7297

That was also the if-necessary game. It's crazy to think UMass had 8 innings where they needed to score just a single run to walk off and eliminate what would end up to be the eventual National Champions.

2009 was one of the most wild NCAA softball tournaments in history. North Dakota State and Jacksonville State made Super Regional.

Yeah, I looked up this and edited my post, but you were quicker.

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Arizona-Ole Miss is another wild game. Ole Miss led 6-0, Arizona responds with 11 unanswered runs. Through 5 innings, that game has THIRTY (30!) hits and 20 runners left on base.

PAC-12 teams fighting their ways back tonight.. two will need if-necessary games to advance. Washington has forced their if-necessary.

Ole Miss actually has a batter thrown out with a 0-1 count and BASES loaded and therefore she's called out. Ole Miss player actually *shoves* an umpire on her way out. Wow. What a turn of events for Ole Miss.

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The ESPN announcer just said that Texas would advance if Oregon wins this game and game 7 cannot be played, because they are the higher seed.

That's NOT true. ESPN, do better. You had a 5-hour rain delay. That's plenty of time to do a 2 minute search on the pre-championship manual and look up the inclement weather procedures and scenarios.

[mikegarrison]

May 23, 2021 21:42:47 GMT -5 trojansc said:

That's so crazy she wasn't ejected.

I mean, she was just "walking through" but she pretty clearly must have deliberately chosen not to walk around that scrum.

In the MLB, if the batter is not in the box when the ump gives the pitcher the OK to pitch, any thrown pitch is automatically a strike. But I think there is a requirement that the pitcher must actually throw the ball. Clearly in this case, the umpire simply called a strike. (Different sports; different rule technicalities.)

[trojansc]

LMAO - OK, so just an inning later, The ESPN announcer who was wrong just said that they got "breaking news" re: the tie-breaker scenario re: Oregon/Texas. No, it's not breaking news, but that's a cute way to admit that they were wrong.

At least there's enough people watching and connected to let them know they got it wrong and cleared it up rather quickly.