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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Jun 20, 2021 23:37:54 GMT -5
alright IEVB and Archiepelago. I read through all of your thread responses to each other and here's what I've concluded. Ievb, I won't lie, the point you were trying to make saying Kyler is transferring to UH because they're a winning program as of late and wanting to have his last season as a hopeful "top dog." That is a completely okay opinion because who wouldn't want to win as an athlete you know? Plus UH does have an immediate need at the middle considering Max doesn't get consistent playing time, and with Kyler being a starter for Stanford these past years, that is a valid reason on why Kyler could transfer here. I don't see why people are getting mad at that. It is a completely valid opinion. archiepelago, you also had a valid point when saying that him transferring to UH could be because of instability and lack of trust with the Stanford athletics program. That is also another great opinion that could also be true, just like IEVB's one. You were definitely out of pocket when you came at IEVB saying "I expect that thinking from a high school player. Thats a very shallow mindset. To be in a team just because they are winning." That is out of pocket and imo, seems like you're coming at him because you didn't like his opinion on why Kyler is transferring to UH. To continue, archiepelago, you called out IEVB saying that "That person said that Presho only wants to play for UH because they are winning. Thats why we reacted. He is saying that Presho only wants to win not to play the sport." This is false because IEVB never said anything close to that. They said that "Ehhh, for some guys it’s just nice to feel like your team is competitive and the hard work you’ve put into the sport feels validated. Not obnoxious/asinine whatsoever. Stanford had the tools to be successful each year he was there and just never panned out. America puts a Stanford education on a pedestal, which it more or less deserves, but I’m sure a high level athlete wants at least one year feeling like a big dog," which to me just seems like that he thinks Kyler wants to transfer to UH because they give him the best shot to compete for a national championship. This doesn't even come close to your quick statement of "that person said that Presho only wants to play for UH because they are winning... He is saying that Presho only wants to win, not to play the sport." I don't know where that last statement came from either since they mentioned NOTHING about NOT wanting to play the sport. after that, archipelago again, you are putting words into IEVB's mouth saying that they said UH's only need is middle, which is in fact false. He just gave an example of an immediate need, which is indeed middle, and that Kyler can definitely fill that role. If you are getting that from this "It’s great but it’s basically history now. Presho has a chance to play for a program with a solid core that has an immediate need for a middle (or an opposite if he’s good there too) and gets to play in front of a fanbase that actually gives af about their Men’s Volleyball program and that’s not unheard of for a player to desire and seek out." but I'm sorry you really need to get some reading comprehension skills because you are clearly putting words into their mouth. BUT, you do make a solid point saying that UH needs middle lib oppo and an outside 2, which I think every UH fan knows and has discussed on the Hawaii 2022 thread. and another good point you made was that Max really can't replace Pat yet and that no one on the bench can replace Gage or Rado, however, I would have to disagree with you on the take for Colton. I do believe Spyros or Filip will take that OH2 spot, obviously, they aren't as talented or nowhere NEAR as good as Colton, but they can hold their own, especially if Filip goes back to his early 2020 self. you also are jumping to the conclusion that IEVB is overhyping UH's national championship, when in fact he didn't even mention ANYTHING about UH being in contention for 2022 natty, they were just saying/implying that UH has been really successful in recent years. all in all, archipelago, you in fact are the one putting words into people's mouth and coming to conclusions over things that they never even said or you interpreted it in a COMPLETELY wrong way from what they intended. it seems as if you took it personally. I have quoted and looked at you and IEVB's posts concerning Kyler, and from my unbias judgment, I think you are DEFINITELY in the wrong. it seems as if you took THEIR OPINION and twisted their words to what you think they said when in fact it was not. SO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN YOU TWO END THE ARGUMENT ALREADY BECAUSE THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COLLEGE TRANSFERS AND NOT ABOUT YOU TWO GETTING INTO A DUMB ARGUMENT WITH EACH OTHER. Lol I’ve been done, would much rather talk about how crazy it is that Ethan Hill is at a 3rd extremely prestigious university. That’s more interesting than the “conversation” i was having with him damn bruh at least a thank you wouldve been nice cause i was tryna back you up. but ok.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 21, 2021 1:33:32 GMT -5
Lol I’ve been done, would much rather talk about how crazy it is that Ethan Hill is at a 3rd extremely prestigious university. That’s more interesting than the “conversation” i was having with him damn bruh at least a thank you wouldve been nice cause i was tryna back you up. but ok. Are you serious….? I can’t even wrap my mind about wanting praise for doing something that wasn’t asked for but if it means that much to you, the defense was very much appreciated. Not sure why I would need to write it out because OBVIOUSLY I appreciate but thank you? Jesus f**king christ i was just trying to move the conversation along but f**k me i guess
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Jun 21, 2021 1:42:04 GMT -5
damn bruh at least a thank you wouldve been nice cause i was tryna back you up. but ok. Are you serious….? I can’t even wrap my mind about wanting praise for doing something that wasn’t asked for but if it means that much to you, the defense was very much appreciated. Not sure why I would need to write it out because OBVIOUSLY I appreciate but thank you? Jesus f**king christ i was just trying to move the conversation along but f**k me i guess damn bruh chill out lmfao, it just seemed as if you didn't appreciate it lol. but chill my guy. chilllllll.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 21, 2021 2:40:49 GMT -5
Are you serious….? I can’t even wrap my mind about wanting praise for doing something that wasn’t asked for but if it means that much to you, the defense was very much appreciated. Not sure why I would need to write it out because OBVIOUSLY I appreciate but thank you? Jesus f**king christ i was just trying to move the conversation along but f**k me i guess damn bruh chill out lmfao, it just seemed as if you didn't appreciate it lol. but chill my guy. chilllllll. I did. I just don’t know why you started freaking out because I didn’t say thank you lol. Plenty chill over here lol
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Post by lankykong on Jun 21, 2021 11:44:38 GMT -5
Are you serious….? I can’t even wrap my mind about wanting praise for doing something that wasn’t asked for but if it means that much to you, the defense was very much appreciated. Not sure why I would need to write it out because OBVIOUSLY I appreciate but thank you? Jesus f**king christ i was just trying to move the conversation along but f**k me i guess damn bruh chill out lmfao, it just seemed as if you didn't appreciate it lol. but chill my guy. chilllllll.
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Post by 808empath on Jun 21, 2021 12:11:32 GMT -5
Lmfao. I can't with this thread. Some of you are jokes. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😅🤣🤡
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Post by 808 State on Jun 21, 2021 12:59:39 GMT -5
Sh*t, this thread is better than some Korean dramas 😂
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Post by pineapplemoose on Jun 21, 2021 15:37:40 GMT -5
i'm lol-ing that no one here has thought to mention that it's near impossible to get into a grad program at stanford. Kyler's done with school at Stanford, so why the heck not move onto somewhere else for grad school?
there is more to transferring than JUST the volleyball.
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Post by 808empath on Jun 21, 2021 17:18:49 GMT -5
i'm lol-ing that no one here has thought to mention that it's near impossible to get into a grad program at stanford. Kyler's done with school at Stanford, so why the heck not move onto somewhere else for grad school? there is more to transferring than JUST the volleyball. That's what I was thinking. Why not go finish your degree and play the sport you love.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 21, 2021 17:46:33 GMT -5
Not going to risk engaging with anymore stupidity from the few that simply can’t help themselves. Soo…
What’s the official list of transfers that people know of? This is what I have off the top of my head and what was mentioned in the thread before that unfortunate back and forth;
Sam Kobrine - UCLA > USC (grad) Taylan Cook - Loyola Chicago > Cal State Northridge Kyler Presho - Stanford > Hawaii (grad?) Ethan Hill - UCLA > Stanford > Harvard Jaylen Jasper - Stanford > Pepperdine (grad)
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Post by olderthandirt on Jun 22, 2021 0:55:24 GMT -5
Nolan Flexen the 6 8” GCU recruit left the team in his first semester and is now at UC Irvine
Someone posted a while back the GCU coaches all wanted him to play Middle. Guess he landed as an Oppo on the U 21 USA volleyball team - I guess that speaks volumes about the two groups of coaches.
Good for him to leave to another, better school and play the position you got recruited to play.
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Post by pineapplemoose on Jun 22, 2021 21:26:45 GMT -5
Not going to risk engaging with anymore stupidity from the few that simply can’t help themselves. Soo… What’s the official list of transfers that people know of? This is what I have off the top of my head and what was mentioned in the thread before that unfortunate back and forth; Sam Kobrine - UCLA > USC (grad) Taylan Cook - Loyola Chicago > Cal State Northridge Kyler Presho - Stanford > Hawaii (grad?) Ethan Hill - UCLA > Stanford > Harvard Jaylen Jasper - Stanford > Pepperdine (grad) I really don't see this anywhere that Ethan is going to Stanford .. This is what's on the USAV release from last week. Harvard doesn't / can't take transfers. Guessing it could have been an early typo. Ethan Hill (MB, 6-7, San Clemente, Calif., Stanford, Southern California)
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 22, 2021 21:41:42 GMT -5
Not going to risk engaging with anymore stupidity from the few that simply can’t help themselves. Soo… What’s the official list of transfers that people know of? This is what I have off the top of my head and what was mentioned in the thread before that unfortunate back and forth; Sam Kobrine - UCLA > USC (grad) Taylan Cook - Loyola Chicago > Cal State Northridge Kyler Presho - Stanford > Hawaii (grad?) Ethan Hill - UCLA > Stanford > Harvard Jaylen Jasper - Stanford > Pepperdine (grad) I really don't see this anywhere that Ethan is going to Stanford .. This is what's on the USAV release from last week. Harvard doesn't / can't take transfers. Guessing it could have been an early typo. Ethan Hill (MB, 6-7, San Clemente, Calif., Stanford, Southern California) Looking at it now it does say Stanford but at a point it definitely had Harvard listed next to his name which led me to believe he got in as a student at another top school on academics and then could play for their men’s team. Maybe it was just a typo, too bad, would have been a cool story if so.
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Post by babybacksets on Jun 22, 2021 21:43:42 GMT -5
Sam Kobrine - UCLA > USC (grad) Taylan Cook - Loyola Chicago > Cal State Northridge Kyler Presho - Stanford > Hawaii (grad?) Nolan Flexen - GCU > UCI Jaylen Jasper - Stanford > Pepperdine (grad)
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 23, 2021 1:24:27 GMT -5
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