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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:41:02 GMT -5
remember that time you said Hilley was vastly better than Lilley? I don’t trust you to be a fair evaluator of Wisconsin setters.... This really seems to be a common way to refute a statement...bring up something else entirely unrelated to the statement as proof of disqualifying the statement. I never said Hilley was vastly better than Lilley. Now I question your ability to read and recall. Nothing like exaggeration for effect. um. I don’t see how it’s unrelated. Both are setters from Wisconsin who you seem to think are much better than their peers. Also are you really gonna make me go pull up the receipts? Just own up to being a homer and being wrong. Carlini is fantastic but you and reach constant argument that she’s far and away better than Poulter and Hancock is just bad
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Post by Draco_MN on Jun 2, 2021 11:55:15 GMT -5
Sold on Larson MBH ROBRO Carlini Poulter JWO Luke Chi Wash JT Drews Hill, KP OR SWP is last imo Question, and actually asking bc I don’t know the answer not bc I think I’m right or trying to be snarky, but everyone on VT seems to be 100% in on MBH as a lock and as our left pin terminator. To me it’s always seemed like she hits the ball at a low contact point compared to Kimmy, SWP, and KP and struggles a bit with passing like SWP and KP. Why is she a lock over KP and SWP? Is it because of her int’l club seasons? Or just general experience with team USA? I just want to understand her the way you all do, otherwise it could be fun to see the roster be two veteran lights out ball control OHs (Robo and Larson) paired with two young offensive OHs (KP and SWP)
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 2, 2021 11:55:55 GMT -5
High and fast is hard. Carlini does it well. Poulter has done it well at times. Y'all. Carlini has taken middle to bottom level teams and brought them to champion's league, and in one case won it. Come on now. That’s pretty impressive for a person to do that single handily
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Post by tamz on Jun 2, 2021 12:12:35 GMT -5
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 2, 2021 12:13:55 GMT -5
This really seems to be a common way to refute a statement...bring up something else entirely unrelated to the statement as proof of disqualifying the statement. I never said Hilley was vastly better than Lilley. Now I question your ability to read and recall. Nothing like exaggeration for effect. um. I don’t see how it’s unrelated. Both are setters from Wisconsin who you seem to think are much better than their peers. Also are you really gonna make me go pull up the receipts? Just own up to being a homer and being wrong. Carlini is fantastic but you and reach constant argument that she’s far and away better than Poulter and Hancock is just bad Again, never said Hilley was much better than Lilley and if you can find that statement, I'll give you $100. I have also never said that Poulter wasn't much worse. She isn't. I would argue Hancock isn't in the same realm as Carlini and Poulter. Is she good? Yes. The only reason I can figure for you exaggerating everything I say is you're trying to make an argument that contradicts mine, and by making mine extreme, you seem correct. You're tiresome and I'm done. Carlini and Poulter for NT!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 12:16:24 GMT -5
Tapp and Washington for libero!
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Post by jwvolley on Jun 2, 2021 12:59:10 GMT -5
um. I don’t see how it’s unrelated. Both are setters from Wisconsin who you seem to think are much better than their peers. Also are you really gonna make me go pull up the receipts? Just own up to being a homer and being wrong. Carlini is fantastic but you and reach constant argument that she’s far and away better than Poulter and Hancock is just bad Again, never said Hilley was much better than Lilley and if you can find that statement, I'll give you $100. You said she was *significantly* better, though
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 2, 2021 13:06:46 GMT -5
Again, never said Hilley was much better than Lilley and if you can find that statement, I'll give you $100. You said she was *significantly* better, though Prove it. No such words ever left my keyboard.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 2, 2021 13:15:08 GMT -5
um. I don’t see how it’s unrelated. Both are setters from Wisconsin who you seem to think are much better than their peers. Also are you really gonna make me go pull up the receipts? Just own up to being a homer and being wrong. Carlini is fantastic but you and reach constant argument that she’s far and away better than Poulter and Hancock is just bad Again, never said Hilley was much better than Lilley and if you can find that statement, I'll give you $100. I have also never said that Poulter wasn't much worse. She isn't. I would argue Hancock isn't in the same realm as Carlini and Poulter. Is she good? Yes. The only reason I can figure for you exaggerating everything I say is you're trying to make an argument that contradicts mine, and by making mine extreme, you seem correct. You're tiresome and I'm done. Carlini and Poulter for NT! You mean Poulter and Carlini for NT right?
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 2, 2021 13:19:02 GMT -5
Again, never said Hilley was much better than Lilley and if you can find that statement, I'll give you $100. I have also never said that Poulter wasn't much worse. She isn't. I would argue Hancock isn't in the same realm as Carlini and Poulter. Is she good? Yes. The only reason I can figure for you exaggerating everything I say is you're trying to make an argument that contradicts mine, and by making mine extreme, you seem correct. You're tiresome and I'm done. Carlini and Poulter for NT! You mean Poulter and Carlini for NT right? I'd be happy with either, but I do think Carlini brings a better ball outside. I'm not sure it's either of those setters who will bring us gold. It's OH play, particularly OOS. If Drews can perform with good performances from both left sides, we should be in pretty good shape. I'd like to see Chiaka, Washington and Foluke splitting time. OHs are tough. Larson, KElsey and MBH for sure. KP or Hill for the last spot. Hill just seems off. Love to see JWO at libero...but I'm afraid that's not in Karch's plans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 13:24:52 GMT -5
You said she was *significantly* better, though Prove it. No such words ever left my keyboard. well now you look real dumb. Go check it out for yourself
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Post by Reach on Jun 2, 2021 13:35:17 GMT -5
Prove it. No such words ever left my keyboard. well now you look real dumb. Go check it out for yourself You can’t do the werk?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 13:36:00 GMT -5
well now you look real dumb. Go check it out for yourself You can’t do the werk? I did. Check the college players thread. I found it
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 2, 2021 13:39:49 GMT -5
You mean Poulter and Carlini for NT right? I'd be happy with either, but I do think Carlini brings a better ball outside. I'm not sure it's either of those setters who will bring us gold. It's OH play, particularly OOS. If Drews can perform with good performances from both left sides, we should be in pretty good shape. I'd like to see Chiaka, Washington and Foluke splitting time. OHs are tough. Larson, KElsey and MBH for sure. KP or Hill for the last spot. Hill just seems off. Love to see JWO at libero...but I'm afraid that's not in Karch's plans. No idea how you arrived at JWO not in Karchs plan? I agree with your assessment of pin play and do believe you’ll see those three middles all playing.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 2, 2021 13:51:51 GMT -5
Prove it. No such words ever left my keyboard. well now you look real dumb. Go check it out for yourself I don't need to check myself because I'm not asserting I said something. You were. I know what I say and words are important. I make my living on the very specific use of our language. I have never said Hilly is much better, significantly better, tons better, or anything of the sort. That's simply not my belief. Regarding Carlini, I believe she is the equal of Poulter in all ways, and superior in a few. She is not vastly, significantly, enormously, precipitously, or gargantuanly better than Poulter I have never said that nor will I ever say that. Now go back to your milk and cookie break and leave me alone.
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