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Post by dodger on Jul 19, 2021 18:49:28 GMT -5
That’s a bit disappointing pre-con with exception of Lville and Wash St., but assuming this season was still a bit tricky to schedule. They need to end the Xavier/Lipscomb round robin and get into something more competitive. Hmm. I disagree. I think it's a very good non-conference schedule. UNLV is a good team to schedule. Xavier was pretty solid and seems to be trending up. Lipscomb was the A-Sun Champ. LMU/Kansas/Tennessee are a few teams that could surprise as tournament teams. Big 10 formula: make sure you have at least 9 wins pre-conference + win 50% conference =‘s ncaa bid: finish top 4 in conference get top 16 seed: dont eliminate your chance at a good seed by over scheduling non-conference! And un-defeated non-con best situation!! A schedule that looks like coach who isnt convinced they finish too 4 in conference?? |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 19, 2021 18:53:03 GMT -5
Big 10 formula: make sure you have at least 9 wins pre-conference + win 50% conference =‘s ncaa bid A little irony here since its their thread: Purdue 2014 was 10-2 in the non-conference and finished 12-8 in the Big 10. They didn't make the tournament because their RPI wasn't good enough and they took a loss at home to St. Louis. The B1G is better now than it was that year, though. |
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Post by dodger on Jul 19, 2021 19:00:13 GMT -5
Big 10 formula: make sure you have at least 9 wins pre-conference + win 50% conference =‘s ncaa bid A little irony here since its their thread: Purdue 2014 was 10-2 in the non-conference and finished 12-8 in the Big 10. They didn't make the tournament because their RPI wasn't good enough and they took a loss at home to St. Louis. The B1G is better now than it was that year, though. Moral of story: dont lose to weak team at home non-con: St Louis sank the boiler!! Plus there are a few years where above could happen but its really rare!! |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 19, 2021 19:08:18 GMT -5
May be ok for RPI but I’d like to see them challenge themselves a bit more. I was hoping to see Texas in there… I agree 💯 with Trojan. Purdue wasn’t going to be a top 4 seed this year, it makes little sense for them to *push* themselves with some insane non conference schedule. This is a very good RPI schedule and Purdue gets plenty of cracks at top 25 RPI teams in conference. It’s boring! |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 19, 2021 19:09:54 GMT -5
Big 10 formula: make sure you have at least 9 wins pre-conference + win 50% conference =‘s ncaa bid A little irony here since its their thread: Purdue 2014 was 10-2 in the non-conference and finished 12-8 in the Big 10. They didn't make the tournament because their RPI wasn't good enough and they took a loss at home to St. Louis. The B1G is better now than it was that year, though. That wasn’t the year they ended ranked in top 25 in poll and were robbed of a tourney bid was it?? |
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Post by alt on Jul 19, 2021 20:50:26 GMT -5
you guys are lucky with this recruit. I wsa hoping she was going to Illinois. I think she can be big for Purdue, good pick up |
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Post by b1gnetwerth on Jul 20, 2021 16:07:09 GMT -5
A little irony here since its their thread: Purdue 2014 was 10-2 in the non-conference and finished 12-8 in the Big 10. They didn't make the tournament because their RPI wasn't good enough and they took a loss at home to St. Louis. The B1G is better now than it was that year, though. That wasn’t the year they ended ranked in top 25 in poll and were robbed of a tourney bid was it?? Yes. It was Val Nichol and Kiki Jones's senior year. Annie Drew’s was a Junior. Danielle Cuttino, Azariah Stahl were Freshmen. |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 20, 2021 17:27:39 GMT -5
A little irony here since its their thread: Purdue 2014 was 10-2 in the non-conference and finished 12-8 in the Big 10. They didn't make the tournament because their RPI wasn't good enough and they took a loss at home to St. Louis. The B1G is better now than it was that year, though. That wasn’t the year they ended ranked in top 25 in poll and were robbed of a tourney bid was it?? Purdue wasn't robbed. There were even two Big Ten teams that didn't make the tournament ahead of them in RPI (Minnesota and Michigan, and Michigan State was also ahead obviously, who was the last team in and arguably *shouldn't* have made the tournament.) The most worthy team that didn't make the field was Pacific. Pacific a better RPI, 4 T50 RPI wins, and didn't lose to anyone outside T50 (Purdue had 3, including #100 and #119). Purdue wasn't better in any measure really. I could be wrong, it was some time ago, but I don't think Purdue fans on here were surprised or claiming they were robbed at all. I think Shondell may have on Twitter. |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 20, 2021 19:17:19 GMT -5
That wasn’t the year they ended ranked in top 25 in poll and were robbed of a tourney bid was it?? Purdue wasn't robbed. There were even two Big Ten teams that didn't make the tournament ahead of them in RPI (Minnesota and Michigan, and Michigan State was also ahead obviously, who was the last team in and arguably *shouldn't* have made the tournament.) The most worthy team that didn't make the field was Pacific. Pacific a better RPI, 4 T50 RPI wins, and didn't lose to anyone outside T50 (Purdue had 3, including #100 and #119). Purdue wasn't better in any measure really. I could be wrong, it was some time ago, but I don't think Purdue fans on here were surprised or claiming they were robbed at all. I think Shondell may have on Twitter. They we’re totally robbed and Dave and most all PURDUE fans were pissed! Another reason why RPI should only be a part of the selection process and not so much the end all be all. They were ranked #19 in the country going into those last two losses against MS and #2 WI. They finished 5th in the B1G. MS was a tough loss but it’s not like MS had a losing record in the B1G or overall. Purdue had two T25 wins and 5 T50 RPI wins and beat another 5 teams who did make the tourney. Hell, the PAC had like 10 teams in that year including USC who finished 15-15! The PURDUE shun was one of the worst I’ve seen in recent years. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 20, 2021 19:21:31 GMT -5
That wasn’t the year they ended ranked in top 25 in poll and were robbed of a tourney bid was it?? Purdue wasn't robbed. There were even two Big Ten teams that didn't make the tournament ahead of them in RPI (Minnesota and Michigan, and Michigan State was also ahead obviously, who was the last team in and arguably *shouldn't* have made the tournament.) The most worthy team that didn't make the field was Pacific. Pacific a better RPI, 4 T50 RPI wins, and didn't lose to anyone outside T50 (Purdue had 3, including #100 and #119). Purdue wasn't better in any measure really. I could be wrong, it was some time ago, but I don't think Purdue fans on here were surprised or claiming they were robbed at all. I think Shondell may have on Twitter. Yeah, I don't think many were shocked. Heading into the last week of B1G conference play, we knew we had to beat an unranked Michigan State and #2 Wisconsin to make the tourney. We lost to both in sweeps. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 20, 2021 19:23:53 GMT -5
I remember Russ squeaking out a 15-13 fifth set win over Purdue late in the season. Penn State went in to win a National Championship that year. One of my favorite matches of the season! I was there live and it was electric. Huge match for Epenesa. Purdue pushed PSU that night, but Hancock's serve proved to be the 7th player on the court. Replay: |
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Post by Kingsley on Jul 20, 2021 19:25:14 GMT -5
That Purdue team lost to freakin' Iowa.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jul 20, 2021 19:31:42 GMT -5
That Purdue team lost to freakin' Iowa. To be (slightly) fair, that was one of Purdue's worst seasons when it came to injuries. Their most offensive weapon, Drews, was out that week, forcing them to run a 6-2 with Nichol and (then freshman) Dimke setting and playing OPP. Their second offensive player that season, Epenesa, didn't have the best match either. |
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Post by trojansc on Jul 20, 2021 19:37:59 GMT -5
They we’re totally robbed and Dave and most all PURDUE fans were pissed! Another reason why RPI should only be a part of the selection process and not so much the end all be all. They were ranked #19 in the country going into those last two losses against MS and #2 WI. They finished 5th in the B1G. MS was a tough loss but it’s not like MS had a losing record in the B1G or overall. Purdue had two T25 wins and 5 T50 RPI wins and beat another 5 teams who did make the tourney. Hell, the PAC had like 10 teams in that year including USC who finished 15-15! The PURDUE shun was one of the worst I’ve seen in recent years. Worst you've seen? That makes no sense. Your 'facts' aren't right. Purdue's best win was #34 in RPI Ohio State. They had 0 T25 wins and 4 T50 wins, not 2 and 5, like you say. Also... what a weird flex about USC. USC beat #14 Kentucky on the road, #16 Arizona on the road, and #24 Creighton (3 T25 wins). They beat 6 OTHER Top 50 teams. Purdue also lost to 3 teams outside the T50, USC only lost to one. Go check the sheets yourself and try to convince yourself it was still a snub. You can complain about RPI, and it has its flaws, but Purdue played 9/12 non-conference matches against teams ranked 100+. That's on Purdue. And they lost one of those 100+ matches..... extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/VB%20Team%20Sheets%20thru%20Nov%2029%202014.pdfPurdue finished 5th in the B1G because they got the worst 3 B1G teams twice (half of their wins in the B1G were Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers). They played 4 of the Top 5 B1G teams once, which is why unbalanced schedules happen and thus mean the committee doesn't really care about conference standing. Winning on the road has also shown to be important for bubble teams, and Purdue didn't do that. They beat 1 Top 100 team on the road (#81 Northwestern in 5 sets)... |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 20, 2021 19:40:59 GMT -5
Purdue wasn't robbed. There were even two Big Ten teams that didn't make the tournament ahead of them in RPI (Minnesota and Michigan, and Michigan State was also ahead obviously, who was the last team in and arguably *shouldn't* have made the tournament.) The most worthy team that didn't make the field was Pacific. Pacific a better RPI, 4 T50 RPI wins, and didn't lose to anyone outside T50 (Purdue had 3, including #100 and #119). Purdue wasn't better in any measure really. I could be wrong, it was some time ago, but I don't think Purdue fans on here were surprised or claiming they were robbed at all. I think Shondell may have on Twitter. Yeah, I don't think many were shocked. Heading into the last week of B1G conference play, we knew we had to beat an unranked Michigan State and #2 Wisconsin to make the tourney. We lost to both in sweeps. I remember most were shocked and was one of the few times Dave was ‘displeased’ publicly. |
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