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Post by ineedajob on Jun 14, 2021 17:21:10 GMT -5
I’m gonna say one thing that is controversial: From an “I want to win” perspective, I don’t mind the serving errors. The aggressive serves are helping out the block and defense a ton. It looks like the US is serving in-bounds between 85-90% and I think we’re getting far better results from being aggressive than by trying to serve in-bounds 94% of the time (I think that’s what the US goal was several years ago after Karch was a few years on the job). Yes, it may result in dropping a set or two if the serving is completely off (like missing 8 in set two against Belgium and serving under 80% for the match). From a spectator standpoint, I understand that it kinda stinks to have fewer rallies and is getting a little bit too close to men’s volleyball territory (it’s common for men’s vb to serve around 80% in-bounds, depending on the number and quality of jump servers). Edit: The above does not apply to Ogbogu’s serve. Hers just looks broken.
Another point: I think they have done a really good job with the way that they’re broadcasting these matches. I was reluctant to pay $ at first because the way volleyball is usually televised (especially the college game) just isn’t worth it. Just the concept of allowing enough time between serves to show replays from different angles so the viewers can see the intricacies of what happened has been great. Even allowing extra time after mega rallies so we can see most of the crucial moments within those rallies has made it a very pleasant viewing experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 17:31:11 GMT -5
I’m gonna say one thing that is controversial: From an “I want to win” perspective, I don’t mind the serving errors. The aggressive serves are helping out the block and defense a ton. It looks like the US is serving in-bounds between 85-90% and I think we’re getting far better results from being aggressive than by trying to serve in-bounds 94% of the time (I think that’s what the US goal was several years ago after Karch was a few years on the job). Yes, it may result in dropping a set or two if the serving is completely off (like missing 8 in set two against Belgium and serving under 80% for the match). From a spectator standpoint, I understand that it kinda stinks to have fewer rallies and is getting a little bit too close to men’s volleyball territory (it’s common for men’s vb to serve around 80% in-bounds, depending on the number and quality of jump servers). Another point: I think they have done a really good job with the way that they’re broadcasting these matches. I was reluctant to pay $ at first because the way volleyball is usually televised (especially the college game) just isn’t worth it. Just the concept of allowing enough time between serves to show replays from different angles so the viewers can see the intricacies of what happened has been great. Even allowing extra time after mega rallies so we can see most of the crucial moments within those rallies has made it a very pleasant viewing experience. Their production value is so high, I'm really impressed. It looks like they took a few notes from how AU did it |
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Post by VB48 on Jun 14, 2021 17:45:46 GMT -5
Karakurt is so knock-knee'd, and constantly lands poorly. It is is not if, but when will she blow out her knees...
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 14, 2021 17:51:53 GMT -5
Karakurt is so knock-knee'd, and constantly lands poorly. It is is not if, but when will she blow out her knees... She's probably better off falling than trying to stick the landing. |
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Post by nikkigsmith on Jun 14, 2021 18:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by chicagosports on Jun 14, 2021 20:07:50 GMT -5
USA Stats: Thompson: 14k, 7e, 36 att (.194); 5 blks; 1 s.errs; 7 digs Larson: 13k, 27 att (.482); 2 s.errs; 11 digs Bartsch-Hackley: 12k, 3e, 26 att (.346); 1 blk; 1 ace, 3 s.errs; 6 digs Akinradewo: 9k, 1e, 13 att (.615); 1 blk; 2 s.errs; 5 digs Washington: 8k, 10 att (.800); 2 blks; 2 aces, 1 s.err; 1 dig Poulter: 1 att (.000); 1 blk; 1 ace; 12 digs Wong-Orantes: 13 digs Drews: 5k, 1e, 9 att (.444); 2 digs Hancock: 1 s.err; 3 digs Hill: 1 s.err; 2 digs Reception Stats: Wong-Orantes: 9 successful, 1 error, 10 so-so, 20 att (40%) Larson: 9 successful, 3 error, 15 so-so, 27 att (22.2%) Bartsch-Hackley: 7 successful, 1 error, 11 so-so, 19 att (31.6%) These are the FIVB stats, so slight grain of salt. A lot of service errors, but I'd argue the payoff was pretty worth it. Cansu was pretty much always on the run and Turkey was under a ton of pressure, even if the ace numbers don't correlate. I thought Thompson's hit percentage was higher than what the stats say, but she was also just taking some good swings on garbage balls and Turkey was digging them. A ton of balance across the net, which we love to see. The Poulter-Akinradewo connection felt worse than the stats indicate, but I also think Poulter was trying to force the middle a ton from off the net. When she was on the net, it was clean. I think Larson had that dip in the second but other than that she was solid, as was MBH. Just clean up our tip coverage a little, though it was much better in sets 3 and 4. Edit: I'm not sure how much more y'all want to set the middle...Turkey's middle blockers were consistently late because they were hanging around and that's what we want. Not Thompson hitting .194 and folks posting “anything she does” under “The Good”… Tell me the stats are off lol. I’m glad the team is finding ways to win despite some of the close (and off) sets this week. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 20:11:34 GMT -5
USA Stats: Thompson: 14k, 7e, 36 att (.194); 5 blks; 1 s.errs; 7 digs Larson: 13k, 27 att (.482); 2 s.errs; 11 digs Bartsch-Hackley: 12k, 3e, 26 att (.346); 1 blk; 1 ace, 3 s.errs; 6 digs Akinradewo: 9k, 1e, 13 att (.615); 1 blk; 2 s.errs; 5 digs Washington: 8k, 10 att (.800); 2 blks; 2 aces, 1 s.err; 1 dig Poulter: 1 att (.000); 1 blk; 1 ace; 12 digs Wong-Orantes: 13 digs Drews: 5k, 1e, 9 att (.444); 2 digs Hancock: 1 s.err; 3 digs Hill: 1 s.err; 2 digs Reception Stats: Wong-Orantes: 9 successful, 1 error, 10 so-so, 20 att (40%) Larson: 9 successful, 3 error, 15 so-so, 27 att (22.2%) Bartsch-Hackley: 7 successful, 1 error, 11 so-so, 19 att (31.6%) These are the FIVB stats, so slight grain of salt. A lot of service errors, but I'd argue the payoff was pretty worth it. Cansu was pretty much always on the run and Turkey was under a ton of pressure, even if the ace numbers don't correlate. I thought Thompson's hit percentage was higher than what the stats say, but she was also just taking some good swings on garbage balls and Turkey was digging them. A ton of balance across the net, which we love to see. The Poulter-Akinradewo connection felt worse than the stats indicate, but I also think Poulter was trying to force the middle a ton from off the net. When she was on the net, it was clean. I think Larson had that dip in the second but other than that she was solid, as was MBH. Just clean up our tip coverage a little, though it was much better in sets 3 and 4. Edit: I'm not sure how much more y'all want to set the middle...Turkey's middle blockers were consistently late because they were hanging around and that's what we want. Not Thompson hitting .194 and folks posting “anything she does” under “The Good”… Tell me the stats are off lol. I’m glad the team is finding ways to win despite some of the close (and off) sets this week. A good 5 of those errors were because of sets from JWO being 30 feet away and JT took aggressive swings. Nothing wrong with that. Stats dont tell the whole story |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 20:29:58 GMT -5
Can someone change their avatar to the spider?
Found one!
I'll keep it until the end of the Olympics.
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Post by newbeach on Jun 14, 2021 20:34:58 GMT -5
Are both Gunes and Baladin slightly injured?! Yes. |
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Post by Kingsley on Jun 14, 2021 20:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 21:14:09 GMT -5
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Post by vbkahuna on Jun 14, 2021 22:10:03 GMT -5
Not Thompson hitting .194 and folks posting “anything she does” under “The Good”… Tell me the stats are off lol. I’m glad the team is finding ways to win despite some of the close (and off) sets this week. A good 5 of those errors were because of sets from JWO being 30 feet away and JT took aggressive swings. Nothing wrong with that. Stats dont tell the whole story That was really a great win. A signature win against a good, challenging team. Even that ugly 2nd set was an important growing experience because of the way we charged back and almost overcame that big deficit at the end. It was like they found their mojo with that run, and then they just stomped Turkey those last two sets. And again (I'm trying to be patient but it's getting more difficult every time I hear this), for those of you who keep saying Poulter is too fast and/or too low, for the love of Karch PLEASE look at those hitting stats... Those numbers aren't in spite of too fast/low, they're BECAUSE of it. Does it look ugly sometimes? Yes. Does it make the hitters pretzel swing sometimes? Yes. But they're getting the numbers AND the wins. Lastly, Thompson... We've found our terminator. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 14, 2021 22:14:57 GMT -5
A good 5 of those errors were because of sets from JWO being 30 feet away and JT took aggressive swings. Nothing wrong with that. Stats dont tell the whole story Lastly, Thompson... We've found our terminator. Can she deliver at Tokyo... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 22:17:51 GMT -5
I'm just going to say it, because I hope it becomes a reality. I cannot wait for Plummer, Rettke, Butler and Thompson to all be on this team at the same time. I mean.....can ya'll imagine? I hope the first three develop into international level successes on the pro circuit.
This team is going to really blossom in the coming years. Paris 2024 is going to be really exciting. I hope Tokyo works out for Larson and Akinradewo. I really want them to have that complete Olympic medal set. Silver, Bronze and Gold. I'll literally cry for like a week if the team wins gold.
But, we shall see if they can really hang with the big three in Tokyo. Right now, my optimism in this team is starting to increase.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jun 14, 2021 22:25:59 GMT -5
I'm just going to say it, because I hope it becomes a reality. I cannot wait for Plummer, Rettke, Butler and Thompson to all be on this team at the same time. I mean.....can ya'll imagine? I hope the first three develop into international level successes on the pro circuit. This team is going to really blossom in the coming years. Paris 2024 is going to be really exciting. I hope Tokyo works out for Larson and Akinradewo. I really want them to have that complete Olympic medal set. Silver, Bronze and Gold. I'll literally cry for like a week if the team wins gold. But, we shall see if they can really hang with the big three in Tokyo. Right now, my optimism in this team is starting to increase. You’d literally cry for a week? |
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