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Post by Spike Town on Jun 14, 2021 14:49:02 GMT -5
Totally fair. Patch's consistency would terrify me if he were a full time starter though. The second OH is a fun one to watch assuming Sander is back and healthy. If he is still banged up then all bets are off on lineups. I also hope Holt finds form. He has been a shadow of himself in this VNL. My personal thought is that without Russell, the US's medal chances are from the outside looking in. Thus, I think the decision Speraw made is more likely to go with the veterans and those that have been around and earned their spots with the test of time, and give them one last Olympics. At least, in my mind, it is the only thing that seems to work in my brain as to why they'd also take Muagatutia. I'm with you on the medal chances. Personally I think if Speraw thinks this is a last run for the old guys then its a HUGE mistake. I think Muagatutia is Speraw in his comfort zone. He knows exactly what he'll get from him. Maybe he can steal a point or two with him in a close match as a serving sub or play three rotations with him in reception in the back row to end a set.
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 14, 2021 14:53:35 GMT -5
My personal thought is that without Russell, the US's medal chances are from the outside looking in. Thus, I think the decision Speraw made is more likely to go with the veterans and those that have been around and earned their spots with the test of time, and give them one last Olympics. At least, in my mind, it is the only thing that seems to work in my brain as to why they'd also take Muagatutia. I'm with you on the medal chances. Personally I think if Speraw thinks this is a last run for the old guys then its a HUGE mistake. I think Muagatutia is Speraw in his comfort zone. He knows exactly what he'll get from him. Maybe he can steal a point or two with him in a close match as a serving sub or play three rotations with him in reception in the back row to end a set. Same thoughts re: Muagututia. Russell is a big loss of course, but assuming the MB's get it together, I don't think it's detrimental to the medal chances if you insert Jaeschke as OH2 to replace Russell. Bigger drop off if DeFalco is starting opposite of Sander, though.
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Post by Spike Town on Jun 14, 2021 14:57:33 GMT -5
I'm with you on the medal chances. Personally I think if Speraw thinks this is a last run for the old guys then its a HUGE mistake. I think Muagatutia is Speraw in his comfort zone. He knows exactly what he'll get from him. Maybe he can steal a point or two with him in a close match as a serving sub or play three rotations with him in reception in the back row to end a set. Same thoughts re: Muagututia. Russell is a big loss of course, but assuming the MB's get it together, I don't think it's detrimental to the medal chances if you insert Jaeschke as OH2 to replace Russell. Bigger drop off if DeFalco is starting opposite of Sander, though. I dont dislike Jaeschke. He's obvioulsy been hit hard by the injury bug in recent years too. If Defalco can hold it together in reception, I like his backrow attacking and his blocking more.
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 14, 2021 15:01:40 GMT -5
Same thoughts re: Muagututia. Russell is a big loss of course, but assuming the MB's get it together, I don't think it's detrimental to the medal chances if you insert Jaeschke as OH2 to replace Russell. Bigger drop off if DeFalco is starting opposite of Sander, though. I dont dislike Jaeschke. He's obvioulsy been hit hard by the injury bug in recent years too. If Defalco can hold it together in reception, I like his backrow attacking and his blocking more. Yeah that was my thinking with DeFalco, is that his reception isn't at Jaeschke's level. Anderson will carry a load anyway, not that you don't need your OH2 to contribute, though.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 14, 2021 15:15:53 GMT -5
I agree about Patch. He has the potential to impact the game more, but not necessarily always in a positive way. I’m not sure how big of a role Ensing will play at the Olympics, but I would assume most of the right side burden was always going to be on Matt Anderson anyways. The USA is not winning without Anderson at opposite so the backup was rather unimportant, tbh. I was going to say the same thing! Like, does anyone even remember the backup OPP we took to Rio? (Murphy Troy, BTW.) How much time did he see on the court? Ensing is on a Crack the Emergency Glass need basis.
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Post by MVBFAN on Jun 14, 2021 15:22:31 GMT -5
Feel bad for Jendryk! Always been a fan of him and got to play against him in high school. Ensing over Patch.. I think we saw the writing on the wall, however neither Patch nor Ensing has solidified themselves in a roll as the next big opposite for the US. However I loved Ensing when he was at LBSU and thought he got overshadowed by Defalco and Tuaniga. Speaking of Defalco, never been a huge fan of his, bad body language, doesn't seem like a super great teammate? Hoping Sander/Jaeschke are both very solid on the OH pin!
I am a little nervous about our middle situation? Hopefully I'm proven wrong!
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Post by beachvolleyball23 on Jun 14, 2021 15:23:49 GMT -5
This is complete and 100% speculation, but part of me wonders if the reason it seems like Speraw went with experience (GM, both middles), might be because he put his young guns in sink-or-swim situations in the VNL and they didn't exactly swim. It hit me while imagining lineups that if Russell came back there could be a situation with largely the same lineup as in Rio, except potentially weaker because of Holt and Russell and Sander coming off of injury. Assuming that doesn't happen it'll be very interesting to see for he goes for DeFalco or Jaeschke in the big matches, and what lineups he uses when he wants to rest his big guns. This is going to be so exciting to watch!
I'm very relieved to see Sander on the roster- I was worried he was more injured than he seemed. Hoping we get to see some of him in the remaining VNL matches if he's fully healed up.
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Post by akbar on Jun 14, 2021 15:31:39 GMT -5
USAV official article says 7 alternates but there are actually 8… That wasn't a mistake I would assume. My guess is that Kyle Russell is a late addition to the alternate list since the announcement was made to the team on the weekend.
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Post by tamz on Jun 14, 2021 15:48:41 GMT -5
USAV official article says 7 alternates but there are actually 8… That wasn't a mistake I would assume. My guess is that Kyle Russell is a late addition to the alternate list since the announcement was made to the team on the weekend. Did we ever figure out if June 15th was the deadline or sometime in early July? Seems kinda silly to announce the roster early and then make changes from at alternates list if that’s the case.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 14, 2021 16:02:08 GMT -5
That wasn't a mistake I would assume. My guess is that Kyle Russell is a late addition to the alternate list since the announcement was made to the team on the weekend. Did we ever figure out if June 15th was the deadline or sometime in early July? Seems kinda silly to announce the roster early and then make changes from at alternates list if that’s the case. I think , but don’t quote me, that June 15th is something that USAV set and there’s a deadline in early July for final "Sport Entries". I assume that means that is the actual Olympics roster deadline but I'm not 100% sure.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 14, 2021 16:03:56 GMT -5
Feel bad for Jendryk! Always been a fan of him and got to play against him in high school. Ensing over Patch.. I think we saw the writing on the wall, however neither Patch nor Ensing has solidified themselves in a roll as the next big opposite for the US. However I loved Ensing when he was at LBSU and thought he got overshadowed by Defalco and Tuaniga. Speaking of Defalco, never been a huge fan of his, bad body language, doesn't seem like a super great teammate? Hoping Sander/Jaeschke are both very solid on the OH pin! I am a little nervous about our middle situation? Hopefully I'm proven wrong! I wouldn't feel bad for Jendryk. He's young. I guarantee he, along with Stahl, Huhmann, and probably Averill will be leading the MB front come Paris. If there's one position this VNL has shown promise in, it's Middle Blocker and Jendryk is poised to be a long term fixture in the team's success.
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Post by akbar on Jun 14, 2021 16:05:43 GMT -5
That wasn't a mistake I would assume. My guess is that Kyle Russell is a late addition to the alternate list since the announcement was made to the team on the weekend. Did we ever figure out if June 15th was the deadline or sometime in early July? Seems kinda silly to announce the roster early and then make changes from at alternates list if that’s the case. Fairly certain June 15 (tomorrow) was the 1st deadline for all VB teams. Paperwork starts flowing. In essence this is everyone final rosters unless a player gets hurt/or life crisis or something deemed acceptable to change, I assuming before some hard deadline in July. To answer your question...im still guessing yes.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 14, 2021 16:08:13 GMT -5
Did we ever figure out if June 15th was the deadline or sometime in early July? Seems kinda silly to announce the roster early and then make changes from at alternates list if that’s the case. Fairly certain June 15 (tomorrow) was the 1st deadline for all VB teams. Paperwork starts flowing. In essence this is everyone final rosters unless a player gets hurt/or life crisis or something deemed acceptable to change, I assuming before some hard deadline in July. To answer your question...im still guessing yes. Any source re: the June 15th deadline? I looked on FIVB/the Olympic website and all I saw was a July 5th deadline for “Sports Entries”. I’m wondering how come nobody else has released a roster if the June 15th date is universal.
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Post by tamz on Jun 14, 2021 16:18:51 GMT -5
Unless all the rosters come flowing in tomorrow. Because I think so far only USA has released both their rosters.
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Post by akbar on Jun 14, 2021 16:25:10 GMT -5
Fairly certain June 15 (tomorrow) was the 1st deadline for all VB teams. Paperwork starts flowing. In essence this is everyone final rosters unless a player gets hurt/or life crisis or something deemed acceptable to change, I assuming before some hard deadline in July. To answer your question...im still guessing yes. Any source re: the June 15th deadline? I looked on FIVB/the Olympic website and all I saw was a July 5th deadline for “Sports Entries”. I’m wondering how come nobody else has released a roster if the June 15th date is universal. You seem to be correct that the hard deadline for all sports is July 5th The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has issued the new deadline for the qualification period which is June 29, 2021 after the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games were postponed for a year due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. "The new qualification period deadline is 29 June 2021 and IFs can define their own qualification period deadlines should the deadline be prior to this date," the IOC said in a statement. The Olympics governing body has also extended the deadline for the "final sport entries" which has now been set for July 5, 2021. The revision of the qualification systems will be finalised as quickly as possible to give certainty to the athletes. This principle encourages International Federations (IF) to follow a like-for-like approach by replacing those lost opportunities that were allocating quota with the same number of events.
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