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Post by archiepelago on Jun 22, 2021 0:34:11 GMT -5
Are there expected players for Canada that are not in the VNL? No Wow. So they are in the same boat as the USA mens team?
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 22, 2021 2:17:40 GMT -5
Go Canada 🇨🇦 Go! Would be shocked if the Leftsides aren’t Gord Perrin, Stephen Maar, and Nick Hoag. Libero will be Blair Bann. Setters will be TJ Sanders (if healthy), and Jay Blankenau. Middle position is where coach Hoag has some tough choices. The only one who’s a lock is Graham Vigrass. Arthur Szwarc has really emerged as a must-include IMO. Has really impressed in all facets of his game, and brings a real threat from the service line as well. No idea who gets the last (backup) spot between Daniel Jansen Van Doorn and Lucas Van Berkel. Yeah that 3rd middle will be a tough decision to make. I hope Loeppky goes to the Olympics, honestly to me the OHs look like: Perrin, Maar/Loeppky, then Hoag. Hoag has been too high error and gets picked on serve a lot. But who knows, I can see Hoag bringing Marshall only because he can play OH AND Hoag seems to like using him at Libero sometimes. But if that happened, I highly doubt Hoag would cut his son, it would be Loeppky being left home. But you can't alternate Liberos at the Olympics.
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jun 22, 2021 2:47:13 GMT -5
Yeah that 3rd middle will be a tough decision to make. I hope Loeppky goes to the Olympics, honestly to me the OHs look like: Perrin, Maar/Loeppky, then Hoag. Hoag has been too high error and gets picked on serve a lot. But who knows, I can see Hoag bringing Marshall only because he can play OH AND Hoag seems to like using him at Libero sometimes. But if that happened, I highly doubt Hoag would cut his son, it would be Loeppky being left home. But you can't alternate Liberos at the Olympics. I just mean if Bann were to get injured. They’re allowed to switch then right? Aside from that, they’ve also used Marshall to relieve Hoag in the back as well, so that could be a factor too.
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Post by KO7 on Jun 22, 2021 8:18:43 GMT -5
Go Canada 🇨🇦 Go! Would be shocked if the Leftsides aren’t Gord Perrin, Stephen Maar, and Nick Hoag. Libero will be Blair Bann. Setters will be TJ Sanders (if healthy), and Jay Blankenau. Middle position is where coach Hoag has some tough choices. The only one who’s a lock is Graham Vigrass. Arthur Szwarc has really emerged as a must-include IMO. Has really impressed in all facets of his game, and brings a real threat from the service line as well. No idea who gets the last (backup) spot between Daniel Jansen Van Doorn and Lucas Van Berkel. Yeah that 3rd middle will be a tough decision to make. I hope Loeppky goes to the Olympics, honestly to me the OHs look like: Perrin, Maar/Loeppky, then Hoag. Hoag has been too high error and gets picked on serve a lot. But who knows, I can see Hoag bringing Marshall only because he can play OH AND Hoag seems to like using him at Libero sometimes. But if that happened, I highly doubt Hoag would cut his son, it would be Loeppky being left home. Yup I hope Loeppky gets a spot too. I’m not a fan of Marshall’s play nor relaxed on-court demeanor, so I hope he only goes as an emergency reserve for Bann. Regarding the middles, I would bet Daniel JVD gets the spot, as it seems Coach Hoag trusts him more. I agree that Hoag’s reception is inconsistent at times, but then I fondly remember how he, Sclater, and Szwarc were instrumental at beating the Cubans for the Olympic berth. On the subject of (possible) father-son favouritism: Don’t get me started on the France’s Tillies. Now THAT is a case of blatant undeserved favouritism over the years.
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Post by volleybolero on Jun 23, 2021 1:07:30 GMT -5
I'll pick Loeppky over Perrin/Maar/Hoag.
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Post by volleybolero on Jun 23, 2021 1:11:33 GMT -5
Team France all the way. I am a bit concern with N'Gapeth whenever he's in front (reference: VNL). He's too error-prone lately.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 23, 2021 12:14:14 GMT -5
I know Pool B is perceived as the stronger pool, but Pool A could be very interesting as well. Canada seemed to have positive momentum towards the end of the VNL, Japan was so-so but finally got Nishida back, and Iran was quite rough at times. Italy obviously has the pieces but who knows what their level will be like without sending the A team to VNLs. Also, there's a chance that host team Japan doesn't make it out of pool play (which I personally don't want to see happening).
Looking at the order of the matches, Canada has their "winnable" matches sandwiched in between Italy and Poland. Iran starts off pool play with Poland and ends with a Japan matchup that could be big in terms of who advances to the quarterfinals. Japan has Venezuela first, but then all of their tougher matchups follow (playing Venezuela early may not be the best thing because Canada will follow right after). Poland plays Italy relatively early in the second match, and Italy closes out pool play with Venezuela. If either of Japan - Canada - Iran can pick up wins against Italy/Poland, then that gives them leeway (and also confidence) in the matches where they play each other.
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Post by alohavball on Jun 23, 2021 15:47:31 GMT -5
Poland's roster is set with only the libero position to be determined after VNL. linkS: Drzyzga, Lomacz OPP: Kurek, Kaczmarek OH: Leon, Kubiak, Semeniuk, Sliwka MB: Bieniek, Nowakoswki, Kochanowski L: Zatorski/Wojtaszek
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jun 23, 2021 16:51:47 GMT -5
For Pool A, Poland certainly has to be the favourites by a relatively sizeable amount. Italy should be second, but then Canada, Japan and Iran will all by fighting for third and fourth. They’re pretty interchangeable, but can all be inconsistent. If any of them can beat Italy, or Poland, that’ll help them down the stretch. I hope Canada can take some momentum from the end of the VNL and play with confidence in Tokyo.
Pool B, as expected, is harder to predict. Brazil and Russia look to be the top 2 as of now, but once Anderson starts playing at his usual level, that can change. France too is tough, but they seem inconsistent. They’ll want to perform better than the last Olympics. Argentina with De Cecco can possibly finish in third or fourth, but I don’t see them higher than that. Conte, Poglajen, Mendez and Palacios haven’t been terminal enough yet to beat the Brazilians. I would predict Lima will be their opposite as he has looked better in the VNL. This can easily be a pool where teams through the second and fourth positions are all 3-2, just like in Rio’s Pool A.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 23, 2021 17:00:26 GMT -5
For Pool A, Poland certainly has to be the favourites by a relatively sizeable amount. Italy should be second, but then Canada, Japan and Iran will all by fighting for third and fourth. They’re pretty interchangeable, but can all be inconsistent. If any of them can beat Italy, or Poland, that’ll help them down the stretch. I hope Canada can take some momentum from the end of the VNL and play with confidence in Tokyo. Pool B, as expected, is harder to predict. Brazil and Russia look to be the top 2 as of now, but once Anderson starts playing at his usual level, that can change. France too is tough, but they seem inconsistent. They’ll want to perform better than the last Olympics. Argentina with De Cecco can possibly finish in third or fourth, but I don’t see them higher than that. Conte, Poglajen, Mendez and Palacios haven’t been terminal enough yet to beat the Brazilians. I would predict Lima will be their opposite as he has looked better in the VNL. This can easily be a pool where teams through the second and fourth positions are all 3-2, just like in Rio’s Pool A. Looks like we have very similar thoughts regarding pool A! I'm waiting for the final rounds of VNL to finish to assess pool B, but it may just be about who is the most consistent. I think it'll be Brazil who comes out on top of the pool and 2-4 will be really interesting although as of right now I would say USA looks like #4. Russia is a wild card for me because I know they're a really good team but if they go all shank mode that makes things interesting -- although if they're doing enough at their own service line it may even things out.
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Post by alohavball on Jun 23, 2021 21:38:27 GMT -5
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Post by ToddyJ on Jun 23, 2021 22:19:50 GMT -5
No Crer for Argentina. That makes me sad, but did we ever even get to see him in the 2021 VNL?
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Post by huskersrule95 on Jun 24, 2021 15:42:52 GMT -5
With Olympic volleyball a month away,here are the odds for Gold Medal Winner Poland +250 Brazil +325 Russia +325 France +550 USA +550 Italy +900 Argentina +5500 Canada +6600 Iran +6600 Japan +6600 Tunisia +50000 Venezuela +50000
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 27, 2021 11:34:39 GMT -5
Well, VNL Final Round didn't really change my views on Pool B. Brazil looks like the favorites. Russia, France, and USA for 2-4 with Argentina potentially playing the spoiler. I would still say as of rn Russia and France are ahead of USA but Russia and USA have the higher ceilings IMO. But Russia also may have passing woes and whether USA can put all the pieces together in crunch time is still tbd. France had some impressive wins during VNL, but their pin play and consistency during big matches will be key.
Side note, I wonder if any of the teams will play "mind-games" or throw to avoid certain matchups or to knock teams out of contention... I really hope it doesn't come down to that but I could see it happening. I mean that type of decision is probably a smart move, but idk I prefer not to see it lol.
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Post by archiepelago on Jun 27, 2021 11:52:09 GMT -5
Everyone here played in the VNL right? So they are similar to USA.
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