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Post by tamz on Jul 5, 2021 10:14:21 GMT -5
This thread can be used to discuss mostly the non-USA matches. I created separate threads for each of the American teams.
Pool A - Pavan/Melissa (CAN), Heidrich/Vergé-Dépré A.(SUI), Sude/Borger (GER), Stam/Schoon (NED)
Pool B - Alix/April (USA), Keizer/Meppelink (NED), Liliana/Elsa (ESP), Xue/Wang X.X. (CHN)
Pool C - Agatha/Duda (BRA), Bansley/Brandie (CAN), Wang/X.Y. Xia (CHN), Gallay/Pereyra (ARG)
Pool D - Ana Patricia/Rebecca (BRA), Claes/Sponcil (USA), Kravcenoka/Graudina (LAT), Makokha/Khadambi (KEN)
Pool E - Clancy/Artacho Del Solar (AUS), Makroguzova/Kholomina (ROC), Menegatti/Orsi Toth (ITA), Lidy/Leila (CUB)
Pool F - Ishii/Murakami (JPN), Betschart/Hüberli (SUI), Kozuch/Ludwig (GER), Hermannova/Slukova (CZE)
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Post by Hawk Attack on Jul 5, 2021 10:17:51 GMT -5
So excited to see Sponcil competing in an Olympics, big fan!
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Post by KO7 on Jul 5, 2021 11:33:54 GMT -5
Any pool jumps out at you as the “pool of death”?
How about seemingly the “easiest” pool?
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Post by tamz on Jul 5, 2021 11:52:39 GMT -5
Any pool jumps out at you as the “pool of death”? How about seemingly the “easiest” pool? Pool of Death in my opinion would be Pool A. Don’t really see a easy pool, the rest are quite balanced.
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Post by gobruins on Jul 5, 2021 12:44:24 GMT -5
Any pool jumps out at you as the “pool of death”? How about seemingly the “easiest” pool? Is there really such a thing as a "pool of death" when only one of the four teams get eliminated?
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Post by tamz on Jul 5, 2021 13:38:52 GMT -5
Any pool jumps out at you as the “pool of death”? How about seemingly the “easiest” pool? Is there really such a thing as a "pool of death" when only one of the four teams get eliminated? Yes, Pool A is the only pool in which you cannot pinpoint one team who will not make it out of pool.
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Post by KO7 on Jul 5, 2021 13:51:04 GMT -5
Any pool jumps out at you as the “pool of death”? How about seemingly the “easiest” pool? Pool of Death in my opinion would be Pool A. Don’t really see a easy pool, the rest are quite balanced. Watched the drawing of lots and was thinking “please no Sude in Pool A, please no Sude in Pool A….. fack.” Concerned for my Canadians, since every team in there have beaten and/or been a very difficult matchup for MHPavs recently.
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Post by sonofdogman on Jul 5, 2021 14:34:39 GMT -5
Is there really such a thing as a "pool of death" when only one of the four teams get eliminated? Two third-place teams will get eliminated, so two pools with just two advancing. And in that case, pool of death vs. being a team with Kenya in your pool definitely comes into play. Not exactly. When pool play is over, all six 3rd place teams are still alive and will play again.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 5, 2021 14:41:54 GMT -5
Not exactly. When pool play is over, all six 3rd place teams are still alive and will play again. Did this change recently? I thought the top two third place teams automatically advance to Knockouts, but I’m not sure. So in that case, having a very weak #4 in your pool could be a big difference maker.
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Post by sonofdogman on Jul 5, 2021 14:48:09 GMT -5
Not exactly. When pool play is over, all six 3rd place teams are still alive and will play again. Did this change recently? I thought the top two third place teams automatically advance to Knockouts, but I’m not sure. So in that case, having a very weak #4 in your pool could be a big difference maker. Same as previous edition. Top two 3rd place are automatically in the round of 16. With the top two from each pool, that makes 14. The four worst 3rd place teams play for the final two spots in the bracket. Essentially it's a round of 24 match for those four teams with 14 teams getting a bye to round of 16. So there is no need to worry about being eliminated in third place after pool. Cause no one is.
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Post by ajm on Jul 6, 2021 8:26:28 GMT -5
Is there really such a thing as a "pool of death" when only one of the four teams get eliminated? Yes, Pool A is the only pool in which you cannot pinpoint one team who will not make it out of pool. The ATeam caught a break because they originally drew Stam/Schoon to Pool B but had to switch them because there’s already a Dutch team in the pool. Now Pool A looks the toughest, which really sucks for MHPavan, the #1 team.
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 6, 2021 13:14:41 GMT -5
I don't follow beach as much as I should/would like to. How good are A-team relative to the field? Are they among the favorites?
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jul 6, 2021 13:38:29 GMT -5
I don't follow beach as much as I should/would like to. How good are A-team relative to the field? Are they among the favorites? Yes, at their best they’re easily a favourite. But the women’s side in beach vb is so inconsistent. But when ATeam, MHPavs and Agatha/Duda are at their best they’re the top 3 teams imo.
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Post by ajm on Jul 6, 2021 14:29:20 GMT -5
I found some betting odds that show Ludwig/Kozuch as the favorite, followed by Agatha/Duda, MHP/Pavan, ATeam, Slaes, and Taliqua/Mariafe. All pretty close to each other though, and then a big drop off after the top six. www.bovada.lv/sports/olympic-games/beach-volleyball/womensFor some reason you can still bet on KWJ/Brooke, Maria/Carol, and a couple other teams who didn't even qualify. Maybe they're factoring in a possible injury withdrawal or something.
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Post by tamz on Jul 6, 2021 16:35:49 GMT -5
I found some betting odds that show Ludwig/Kozuch as the favorite, followed by Agatha/Duda, MHP/Pavan, ATeam, Slaes, and Taliqua/Mariafe. All pretty close to each other though, and then a big drop off after the top six. www.bovada.lv/sports/olympic-games/beach-volleyball/womensFor some reason you can still bet on KWJ/Brooke, Maria/Carol, and a couple other teams who didn't even qualify. Maybe they're factoring in a possible injury withdrawal or something. Ludwig/Kozuch?? I would pick Joanouk over them.
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