Dominican Republic vs. South Korea | Wed 7/28 10:05pm ET

[trojansc]

Jul 28, 2021 23:52:56 GMT -5 jwvolley said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:48:55 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Assume              DR beats Kenya anybody in 3-4 sets:

Bold of you

Hey! They beat Turkey 3-1 at the VNL! Turkey is kind of DR-like but slightly less messy and higher ceiling.

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Jul 28, 2021 23:58:01 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:52:56 GMT -5 jwvolley said:

Bold of you

Hey! They beat Turkey 3-1 at the VNL! Turkey is kind of DR-like but slightly less messy and higher ceiling.

did Turkey play their starters that match?

[ironhammer]

Jul 28, 2021 23:49:19 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:45:45 GMT -5 @madden54 said:

Dr is probably gonna go 5 with Kenya next lol

please don't tempt them. they went 5 with Cameroon at the World Cup.

So do you agree with me now DR can be wildly inconsistent?

[volleyb]

Ankle injury for Koga and not knee, according to the coach's interview. She watched their last game from the stands with crutches.

[trojansc]

Jul 28, 2021 23:59:36 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:49:19 GMT -5 trojansc said:

please don't tempt them. they went 5 with Cameroon at the World Cup.

So do you agree with me now DR can be wildly inconsistent?

Literally nobody would disagree with that statement. They went 5 sets with Mexico en route to qualifying here. They went 5 sets like a zillion times at the 2014 World Championships. This is nothing new.

But the good part about wildly inconsistent is.. you have potential to beat good teams too.

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Jul 28, 2021 23:59:36 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:49:19 GMT -5 trojansc said:

please don't tempt them. they went 5 with Cameroon at the World Cup.

So do you agree with me now DR can be wildly inconsistent?

what exactly are you trying to do? Has anyone actually argued that DR is wildly inconsistent?? You’re always trying to get people to agree with you by saying obvious things acting like you called it or something

[ironhammer]

Jul 29, 2021 0:01:12 GMT -5 @madden54 said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:59:36 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

So do you agree with me now DR can be wildly inconsistent?

what exactly are you trying to do? Has anyone actually argued that DR is wildly inconsistent??

Trojansc took issue with me when I said earlier DR is wildly inconsistent in 5 setters and often choke in the crucial moments...just wondering if he changed his mind now...

[trojansc]

Jul 28, 2021 23:58:48 GMT -5 @madden54 said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:58:01 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Hey! They beat Turkey 3-1 at the VNL! Turkey is kind of DR-like but slightly less messy and higher ceiling.

did Turkey play their starters that match?

Both teams played most of their starters, a couple backups in the first sets, but by the 3rd-4th set it was A-Team for both. Karakurt had an error for every kill she had.

[trojansc]

Jul 29, 2021 0:02:18 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 29, 2021 0:01:12 GMT -5 @madden54 said:

what exactly are you trying to do? Has anyone actually argued that DR is wildly inconsistent??

Trojansc took issue with me when I said earlier DR is wildly inconsistent in 5 setters and often choke in the crucial moments...just wondering if he changed his mind now...

Well, at least now you changed it from agreeing about inconsistency to a different point. You say choke in crucial moments, but, over their 5-set span, they win more 5-setters than lose. So I disagree that they always choked.

I think it is a system issue thing. When you can't receive serve, you are going to have wildly inconsistent results. And when you win and lose close matches, choking isn't really fair. Otherwise, any team who loses in 5 sets chokes everytime. That's not the case.

[ironhammer]

Jul 29, 2021 0:06:24 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Jul 29, 2021 0:02:18 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Trojansc took issue with me when I said earlier DR is wildly inconsistent in 5 setters and often choke in the crucial moments...just wondering if he changed his mind now...

Well, at least now you changed it from agreeing about inconsistency to a different point. You say choke in crucial moments, but, over their 5-set span, they win more 5-setters than lose. So I disagree that they always choked.

I think it is a system issue thing. When you can't receive serve, you are going to have wildly inconsistent results. And when you win and lose close matches, choking isn't really fair. Otherwise, any team who loses in 5 sets chokes everytime. That's not the case.

Fair enough.

[binsoy]

Jul 29, 2021 0:00:05 GMT -5 volleyb said:

Ankle injury for Koga and not knee, according to the coach's interview. She watched their last game from the stands with crutches.

Is she out for the rest of the tournament?

[chatchu-off moksri]

Jul 28, 2021 23:40:52 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Jul 28, 2021 23:37:42 GMT -5 chatchu-off moksri said:

Damn KYK came up clutch with that block at 9-all, then the ace right after.

Korea vs. Japan is already a huge rivalry game, but I feel like now it is going to be even more of a heated match.

I don't know what's better for DR in that Korea/Japan match.

Have a relaxed Japan team beat Korea and already mathematically qualified to the QF's by the time they play, or, have Korea beat Japan and force it to be a winner-take-all. Either way, a DR win over Japan will likely advance them, so, I don't know if Japan playing with pressure or not is better.

The real wrench in the equation though is if Japan beats Brazil. Then, it gets way more messy.

Originally, I thought Japan would probably win against Korea, but now after this 5 set match I don't really know. Tbh I was expecting Korea to lose today, I just didn't think they had what it took to get a win but they proved me wrong. Japan vs. Korea and Japan vs. DR is going to be nerve-racking for all teams involved. 

I do think Brazil will beat Japan, but even then i'm not 100% sure anymore. I wonder if Koga makes an appearance soon or if she's out for the entirety of the games now. 

[trojansc]

Jul 29, 2021 0:11:08 GMT -5 chatchu-off moksri said:

Originally, I thought Japan would probably win against Korea, but now after this 5 set match I don't really know. Tbh I was expecting Korea to lose today, I just didn't think they had what it took to get a win but they proved me wrong. Japan vs. Korea and Japan vs. DR is going to be nerve-racking for all teams involved. 

I do think Brazil will beat Japan, but even then i'm not 100% sure anymore. I wonder if Koga makes an appearance soon or if she's out for the entirety of the games now. 

Koga was carried off the court in the 1st game and in crutches the 2nd game. I would think that is normally a tournament-ending injury. But, I don't know any other specifics.

Koga's injury aside, I'd still like to see DR/Korea advance.

[chatchu-off moksri]

Jul 29, 2021 0:14:48 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Jul 29, 2021 0:11:08 GMT -5 chatchu-off moksri said:

Originally, I thought Japan would probably win against Korea, but now after this 5 set match I don't really know. Tbh I was expecting Korea to lose today, I just didn't think they had what it took to get a win but they proved me wrong. Japan vs. Korea and Japan vs. DR is going to be nerve-racking for all teams involved. 

I do think Brazil will beat Japan, but even then i'm not 100% sure anymore. I wonder if Koga makes an appearance soon or if she's out for the entirety of the games now. 

Koga was carried off the court in the 1st game and in crutches the 2nd game. I would think that is normally a tournament-ending injury. But, I don't know any other specifics.

Koga's injury aside, I'd still like to see DR/Korea advance.

In a situation like this, does the team get to replace the injured athlete with an alternate? 

I think it would be nice to see Korea advance in what is most likely going to be KYK's last Olympics, but Korea vs. Japan is hard to predict. Always an emotional match considering the history between the two countries. 

[trojansc]

The last major tournament, the 2018 World Championships, DR and Japan played a crucial match, Both needed it to have hope to make the Final 6, and, you guessed it, it went 5 sets.

Japan ended up winning, then beat Brazil (who had already lost to Germany) and advanced to the Final 6.