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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:58:02 GMT -5
Do we know who is on the 18 player training roster for this tournament yet for the USA? we don’t know exactly, but based off social media and stuff we suspect that Micaya White, Jenna Gray, Madeleine Gates, Madison Lilley, Cori Crocker, Roni Jones Perry, and Tiffany Clark are in Anaheim right now. I bet Cuttino is in the conversation there too. Not sure who else is there. Hmmmm. I wonder if any Olympic alternates will be there? Surely no Olympians will be on the roster....right?! |
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Post by basil on Aug 13, 2021 18:59:20 GMT -5
we don’t know exactly, but based off social media and stuff we suspect that Micaya White, Jenna Gray, Madeleine Gates, Madison Lilley, Cori Crocker, Roni Jones Perry, and Tiffany Clark are in Anaheim right now. I bet Cuttino is in the conversation there too. Not sure who else is there. Hmmmm. I wonder if any Olympic alternates will be there? Surely no Olympians will be on the roster....right?! I seriously doubt it. Neither Olympians nor alternates. They deserve the break, and there's not much to play for. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:59:56 GMT -5
They should release the training roster at least. C'mon USAV. Is Karch going to coach them?
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Post by charlesd on Aug 13, 2021 19:03:03 GMT -5
This seems to be an extremely curious and risky decision by Maglio, as far as her NT career goes. She just may have taken herself out of a starting MB role and possibly off the NT entirely by this decision. Wow. 8 months away with her pro team learning new skills that might actually benefit Team Canada and you pretty much have her off the NT? If that happens, it will be a politically based decision by Winzer. What is risky is Winzer's decision to sit Gray at the VNL, when apparently Gray was healthy enough to hit front row for more than a handful of the remaining games. Also, risky is the decision to not have Maglio play at the NORCECA because it might be "unfair" if she arrived late. Winzer couldn't bring her along and have her sit on the bench and use her if needed? After the 2018 WC, Maglio didn't play in the fall, and then went back to Hawaii in January to finish her beach eligibility. She then played middle for Black in the summer of 2019 (8 months later), and didn't seem to miss a beat. She's one of the quickest, physical middles for Canada. What players are so far ahead of her that by May next year, she won't even be good enough to make the cut at 4th middle (and would be off the team)? Maglio's pro team needed her to play right-side because the opposite they signed decided to get surgery and her pro team "asked" her to to play there. She could actually be valuable to Team Canada as a back-up OPP, or in general, being more versatile. The impression I get is that Winzer doesn't seem to think these high-level players are needed. The team lost ranking points at the VNL by not winning some matches they probably should have and Gray could have made a huge contribution (but maybe it wasn't fair that she was off the first part of the VNL with an injury?). That decision alone could keep Canada out of WC. I hope Gray decides to come back to the National Team next year. Maglio is planning on being back and playing in the middle. It might take some time to get back at it, but I think it would be unlikely that she will be unseeded in the middle position (if not necessarily a starter - at first). Canada really cannot afford to lose these players if they want any shot at Paris 2024 in my opinion. I very much hope you are right and I am wrong. Canada is a better team with Maglio at MB than not. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 19:03:43 GMT -5
Are R. Adams and K. Lowe like done with volleyball or just with the NT? What about Kingdon. I'm sure she will be in the mix somewhere or is she cut too? I also would assume Cuttino will be in the picture.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 19:04:57 GMT -5
Are R. Adams and K. Lowe like done with volleyball or just with the NT? What about Kingdon. I'm sure she will be in the mix somewhere or is she cut too? I also would assume Cuttino will be in the picture. Lowe is done done. Adams is done with the NT. Kingdon is who knows. Cuttino still is |
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Post by newbeach on Aug 13, 2021 19:42:44 GMT -5
Wow. 8 months away with her pro team learning new skills that might actually benefit Team Canada and you pretty much have her off the NT? If that happens, it will be a politically based decision by Winzer. What is risky is Winzer's decision to sit Gray at the VNL, when apparently Gray was healthy enough to hit front row for more than a handful of the remaining games. Also, risky is the decision to not have Maglio play at the NORCECA because it might be "unfair" if she arrived late. Winzer couldn't bring her along and have her sit on the bench and use her if needed? After the 2018 WC, Maglio didn't play in the fall, and then went back to Hawaii in January to finish her beach eligibility. She then played middle for Black in the summer of 2019 (8 months later), and didn't seem to miss a beat. She's one of the quickest, physical middles for Canada. What players are so far ahead of her that by May next year, she won't even be good enough to make the cut at 4th middle (and would be off the team)? Maglio's pro team needed her to play right-side because the opposite they signed decided to get surgery and her pro team "asked" her to to play there. She could actually be valuable to Team Canada as a back-up OPP, or in general, being more versatile. The impression I get is that Winzer doesn't seem to think these high-level players are needed. The team lost ranking points at the VNL by not winning some matches they probably should have and Gray could have made a huge contribution (but maybe it wasn't fair that she was off the first part of the VNL with an injury?). That decision alone could keep Canada out of WC. I hope Gray decides to come back to the National Team next year. Maglio is planning on being back and playing in the middle. It might take some time to get back at it, but I think it would be unlikely that she will be unseeded in the middle position (if not necessarily a starter - at first). Canada really cannot afford to lose these players if they want any shot at Paris 2024 in my opinion. I very much hope you are right and I am wrong. Canada is a better team with Maglio at MB than not. Yeah, I just can’t get over the “off the NT entirely” thought. I know Canada has decent middles but what planet would Winzer have to be on to say she couldn’t contribute in the middle over the next few years after playing OPP for one season? I just don’t see it even if she has to work her way back into the lineup (assuming Ogums or Van Buskirk overtake her). That is assuming Cross stays on form and committed to a Paris run for the next three years as well (which I hope she does!). Who else is ready? |
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Post by newbeach on Aug 13, 2021 19:43:26 GMT -5
Hi Are R. Adams and K. Lowe like done with volleyball or just with the NT? What about Kingdon. I'm sure she will be in the mix somewhere or is she cut too? I also would assume Cuttino will be in the picture. Lowe is done done. Adams is done with the NT. Kingdon is who knows. Cuttino still is I’d like to see Cuttino get an opportunity! It will be tough if Drews stays around, and with JT and possibly Plummer T OPP. |
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Post by chicagosports on Aug 13, 2021 20:50:36 GMT -5
When the Cuttino mentions are growing.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 13, 2021 20:51:23 GMT -5
Do we think the NORCECA team will be identical to the Pan-Am-Cup team? There's very little time between these events.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 20:56:17 GMT -5
Do we think the NORCECA team will be identical to the Pan-Am-Cup team? There's very little time between these events. I wonder if NORCECA got kick back from how late it was. It was scheduled for Sept 30-Oct 10 and now its Sept 11-20 interesting. I bet that changes the plans USAV had for their rosters (they were going to try to scrape together AU players) |
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Post by pbmu on Aug 14, 2021 3:14:59 GMT -5
Looks like part of the invited group went out tonight based on social media sightings (mostly Kendall’s ig stories)
Franti
Bajema
Gross
Gray
M White
K White
Lilley
Crocker
- most names have been mentioned here so they’re no surprise except for maybe Gross. And we all know Clark is there, so that’s 9/18 of the group.
And although not seen yet, a lot are saying Jones-Perry & Gates and from detective work I think Evans is also there
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Post by b1gnetwerth on Aug 14, 2021 7:37:03 GMT -5
Do we think the NORCECA team will be identical to the Pan-Am-Cup team? There's very little time between these events. No, many club teams were not willing to allow players to extend their time with USA at the expense of not having these players for the first few games. |
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Post by liberovb10 on Aug 14, 2021 9:59:11 GMT -5
Looks like part of the invited group went out tonight based on social media sightings (mostly Kendall’s ig stories) Franti Bajema Gross Gray M White K White Lilley Crocker - most names have been mentioned here so they’re no surprise except for maybe Gross. And we all know Clark is there, so that’s 9/18 of the group. And although not seen yet, a lot are saying Jones-Perry & Gates and from detective work I think Evans is also there Wait i thought we weren’t supposed to use social media as a channel to report news on here? haha, kidding kidding. Question, do we think Micaya White is going to be effective at this level? |
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Post by dl3ww on Aug 14, 2021 10:47:46 GMT -5
Question, do we think Micaya White is going to be effective at this level? [/quote]
I was only able to watch one of her games (that they lost) so it’s hard to tell off of one game… but in that game her passing was better and her serve has most definitely gotten better and more consistent (she got 6 aces in the first set alone, both times she went back to serve she got 3 in a row), but her attacking is still a little predictable with the cross court or tip… the biggest thing is I think this experience could be a good thing for her.
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