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Post by burbank55 on Jun 9, 2024 16:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by katn on Jun 11, 2024 12:19:41 GMT -5
i'm curious if anyone knows if usc is trying to get a waiver for molly phillips to play an additional year of beach? i thought someone had previously made a comment about it
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Post by houdini on Jun 11, 2024 15:21:32 GMT -5
good stuff. Three wins over the top two Brazilian teams for Tina. Nice comeback for Kelly/Sara after a 2-1 2nd place in pool. |
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Post by Fight On! on Jun 11, 2024 22:23:34 GMT -5
i'm curious if anyone knows if usc is trying to get a waiver for molly phillips to play an additional year of beach? i thought someone had previously made a comment about it Yes, they’re trying. |
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Post by volleycoach2310 on Jun 12, 2024 3:20:02 GMT -5
i'm curious if anyone knows if usc is trying to get a waiver for molly phillips to play an additional year of beach? i thought someone had previously made a comment about it Yes, they’re trying. Why would she be eligible for this? |
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Post by burbank55 on Jun 12, 2024 9:28:42 GMT -5
Why would she be eligible for this? As I recall, she transferred after 4.5 years and 4+ indoor seasons at Texas (2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023). She then was at USC for half a year, Spring 2024. As explained by others on this board, she should have up to five years to complete her eligibility if all sports. However, 2020 should be a Covid bonus year. She still has eligibility in beach volleyball because Texas didn’t start their beach program until Spring 2023 so only 2 beach campaigns for Molly. From what I’ve seen in other sports, she should be able to get her appeal approved. In fact, it’s debatable about whether she should even have to appeal since Covid should erase one of her five years on the clock. |
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Post by volleycoach2310 on Jun 13, 2024 2:10:47 GMT -5
Why would she be eligible for this? As I recall, she transferred after 4.5 years and 4+ indoor seasons at Texas (2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023). She then was at USC for half a year, Spring 2024. As explained by others on this board, she should have up to five years to complete her eligibility if all sports. However, 2020 should be a Covid bonus year. She still has eligibility in beach volleyball because Texas didn’t start their beach program until Spring 2023 so only 2 beach campaigns for Molly. From what I’ve seen in other sports, she should be able to get her appeal approved. In fact, it’s debatable about whether she should even have to appeal since Covid should erase one of her five years on the clock. Thanks for the explanation. Personally I will be thrilled when all this Covid extra year crap is over. You have 23-24 year olds still competing. Hard for 18-19 year olds to ever have a decent shot. Seems a lot are having to redshirt which then keeps them around and perpetuates the problem. |
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Post by burbank55 on Jun 14, 2024 0:53:10 GMT -5
Okay, that collegiate beach VB recruiting time of year is almost upon us… the silliness of getting long term commitments from girls who just finished 10th grade. June 15th start of official contact.
Here are some lists from two sources, the VolleyballMag.com Poll results and the USAV NTDP Winter training list (which is incomplete as some girls might have conflicts or are already beyond the program. I also haven’t scrubbed the NTDP list for any non-sophomores. The U17/18 list seemed to have a lot of the top sophomores so I included that one)
VolleyballMag.com Poll
Top Vote Getters (in alphabetical order):
Allyn Brewer (MADSAND in Texas),
Emma Champagne (MBsand)
Audrey Flanagan (Elite Beach),
Sara Moynihan (MBsand),
Olga Nikolaeva (Elite Beach),
Simone Roslon (MBsand),
Jordyn Scribner (MADSAND)
Sarah Wood - unquestioned Numero Uno for years.
Full VolleyballMag List (this list is not curated… any nominated Underclassman made the list. I have left out the secondary list of late nominees.)
Julia Anisimova, 5-9, Soph., Shawnee Mission (Kansas) Northwest, Uncommitted
Allyn Brewer, Soph., McKinney (Texas) North, MADSAND, Uncommitted
Emma Champagne, 6-0, Soph., Sierra Canyon (Chatsworth, CA), MBsand, Uncommited
Audrey Flanagan, 6-3, Soph., Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, CA), Elite, Uncommitted
Kloe Fulenwider, 5-10, Soph., Homeschooled (San Diego), Wave, Uncommitted
Ella Grimes, 5-10, Soph., Ursuline Academy (Cincinnati, Ohio), Ohio Valley, Uncommit
Sarah Gyepes, 5-11, Soph., Santa Monica (California), Elite, Uncommitted
Ciela Hendrickson, 5-10. Soph., Santa Monica, MBsand, Uncommitted
Brynn Hughbanks, 5-10, Soph., Chelan (Washington), K Beach, Uncommitted
Ella Hughes, 5-8, Soph., La Jolla (San Diego, California), Wave, Uncommitted
Cora Loomer, 6-1, Soph., San Marcos (California), Elite, Uncommitted
Macy Ludwig, 5-8, Soph., El Segundo (California) High School, MBsand, Uncommitted
Sara Moynihan, 5-8 Soph., JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA), MBsand, Uncommit
Olga Nikolaeva, 5-6, Soph., Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, CA), Elite, Uncommit
Kara Namimatsu, 5-9, Soph., Bishop Montgomery (Torrance, CA), MBsand, Uncommit
Estelle Reese, 5-8, Soph., Gulf Breeze (Florida), West FL Waves, Uncommitted
Simone Roslon, 5-10, Soph., Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, CA), MBsand, Uncommit
Jordyn Scribner, 5’8”, Soph., Clear Falls (League City, Texas), MADSAND, Uncommit
Bella Scherfenberg, 5-8, Soph., Belton (Missouri), P4:13 Beach, Uncommit
Lily Sprague, 5-9, Soph., Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach, CA), Elite, Uncommitted
Britain Taylor, 5-6, Soph., King’s Acad. (West Palm Beach, FL), SandStorm, Uncommit
Sarah Wood, 6-1, Soph., Garnet Valley (Glen Mills, Pennsylvania), Stars & Stripes, NA
Haylee Wright, 5-8, Soph., Clear Falls (League City, Texas), Future, Uncommit
USA Volleyball
BEACH NTDP TRAINING SERIES
2023 Winter Training Roster
*denotes hybrid (beach/indoor) athlete
FIRST LAST REGION
Julia Anisimova Heart of America
Mikki Carlin Southern California
Emma Champagne Southern California
Ruby Cochrane Southern California
ELLA Dueck Northern California
Clara Evans Carolina
Audrey Flanagan* Southern California
Ella Grimes* Ohio Valley
Ciela Hendrickson Southern California
Brynn Hughbanks Evergreen
Avery Junk Southern California
Addison Junk Southern California
Ryan Lambert Carolina
Shayla Martinez Southern California
Sara Moynihan Southern California
Kara Namimatsu Southern California
Kaitlyn Nguyen* Puget Sound
Olga Nikolaeva Southern California
Ella Olson Southern California
Layli Ostovar* Southern California
Anabelle Redaelli Southern California
Simone Roslon* Southern California
Avery Towne Northern California
Eliana Urzua Northern California
Kate Weitnauer Southern
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Post by burbank55 on Jun 14, 2024 9:38:09 GMT -5
Adding rankings. Rankings don’t necessarily indicate quality.
AAU Rankings:
2. Avery Junk
3. Addison Junk
4. Ciela Hendrickson
5. Emma Champagne
6. Sydney Toumajian
7. Olga Nikolaeva
8. Arelie Hershberg
9. Ruby Cochrane
11. Anabelle Redaelli
13. Shayla Martinez
14. Macy Ludwig
15. Keira Faragalla
16. Lily Sprague
BVNE Rankings:
1. Spencer Horn
5. Rylie Frandrup
6. Emily Castner
14. Kaitlynn Chastain
18. Sofie Meissner
25. Arelie Hershberg
27. Hannah Tweten
28. Estelle Reece
33. Isabel Ruiz
P1440 Rankings:
7. Jordyn Scribner
9. Lilliana Seldat
13. Arelie Hershberg
27. Brynn Hughbanks
28. Julia Anisimova
35. Macy Ludwig
36. Tatum Riggs
37. Chelsea Erhart
39. Ava Kretschman
46. Kate MacDonald
49. Bella Scherfenberg
USAVP
62. Sarah Wood
149. Thais Treumann (Class of 2027)
183. Brielle Taylor (listed at 17U mistakenly)
187. Britain Taylor (listed at 17U mistakenly)
239. Jordyn Scribner
260. Clara Evans
285. Olga Nikolaeva
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Post by uscvel on Jun 14, 2024 15:05:15 GMT -5
Anybody care to make predictions on who will be committing to USC? And who do we view as the best prospects after Wood? Sounds like Champagne and Nikolaeva are high on the list.
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Post by volleycoach2310 on Jun 14, 2024 15:19:05 GMT -5
Adding rankings. Rankings don’t necessarily indicate quality. AAU Rankings: 2. Avery Junk 3. Addison Junk 4. Ciela Hendrickson 5. Emma Champagne 6. Sydney Toumajian 7. Olga Nikolaeva 8. Arelie Hershberg 9. Ruby Cochrane 11. Anabelle Redaelli 13. Shayla Martinez 14. Macy Ludwig 15. Keira Faragalla 16. Lily Sprague BVNE Rankings: 1. Spencer Horn 5. Rylie Frandrup 6. Emily Castner 14. Kaitlynn Chastain 18. Sofie Meissner 25. Arelie Hershberg 27. Hannah Tweten 28. Estelle Reece 33. Isabel Ruiz P1440 Rankings: 7. Jordyn Scribner 9. Lilliana Seldat 13. Arelie Hershberg 27. Brynn Hughbanks 28. Julia Anisimova 35. Macy Ludwig 36. Tatum Riggs 37. Chelsea Erhart 39. Ava Kretschman 46. Kate MacDonald 49. Bella Scherfenberg USAVP 62. Sarah Wood 149. Thais Treumann (Class of 2027) 239. Jordyn Scribner 260. Clara Evans 285. Olga Nikolaeva You are missing players for one and for two this list is not remotely indicative of talent…a lot of the top girls are playing women’s open, not wasting their time playing 16u & 18u. You also might want to look at the Fab50 list for p1440…and girls who have been 2 time Fab50 girls as there are a few. |
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Post by burbank55 on Jun 14, 2024 16:18:29 GMT -5
Adding rankings. Rankings don’t necessarily indicate quality. AAU Rankings: 2. Avery Junk 3. Addison Junk 4. Ciela Hendrickson 5. Emma Champagne 6. Sydney Toumajian 7. Olga Nikolaeva 8. Arelie Hershberg 9. Ruby Cochrane 11. Anabelle Redaelli 13. Shayla Martinez 14. Macy Ludwig 15. Keira Faragalla 16. Lily Sprague BVNE Rankings: 1. Spencer Horn 5. Rylie Frandrup 6. Emily Castner 14. Kaitlynn Chastain 18. Sofie Meissner 25. Arelie Hershberg 27. Hannah Tweten 28. Estelle Reece 33. Isabel Ruiz P1440 Rankings: 7. Jordyn Scribner 9. Lilliana Seldat 13. Arelie Hershberg 27. Brynn Hughbanks 28. Julia Anisimova 35. Macy Ludwig 36. Tatum Riggs 37. Chelsea Erhart 39. Ava Kretschman 46. Kate MacDonald 49. Bella Scherfenberg USAVP 62. Sarah Wood 149. Thais Treumann (Class of 2027) 239. Jordyn Scribner 260. Clara Evans 285. Olga Nikolaeva You are missing players for one and for two this list is not remotely indicative of talent…a lot of the top girls are playing women’s open, not wasting their time playing 16u & 18u crap. You also might want to look at the Fab50 list for p1440…and girls who have been 2 time Fab50 girls as there are a few. Haha, I am just transcribing any lists or rankings of elite sophomores that I can find. My own opinion only came in saying Sarah Wood has been #1 for many years. Just out of curiosity, how many other high school sophomores have been playing women’s open? I am happy to add any additional information suggested. Thank you for suggesting another list. The P1440 Fab50 list includes multiple classes of high schoolers including girls who just graduated and will be entering college this fall. Let me try and pull the sophomores out of this list. p1440.org/fab50/Addison Conner Bella Scherfenberg Brielle Taylor Britain Taylor Brynn Hughbanks Elizabeth Selinger Estelle Reese Izzy Masten Jordyn Scribner Julia Anisimova Keira Faragalla Olga Nikolaeva |
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Post by volleycoach2310 on Jun 14, 2024 17:18:27 GMT -5
You are missing players for one and for two this list is not remotely indicative of talent…a lot of the top girls are playing women’s open, not wasting their time playing 16u & 18u crap. You also might want to look at the Fab50 list for p1440…and girls who have been 2 time Fab50 girls as there are a few. Haha, I am just transcribing any lists or rankings of elite sophomores that I can find. My own opinion only came in saying Sarah Wood has been #1 for many years. Just out of curiosity, how many other high school sophomores have been playing women’s open? I am happy to add any additional information suggested. Thank you for suggesting another list. The P1440 Fab50 list includes multiple classes of high schoolers including girls who just graduated and will be entering college this fall. Let me try and pull the sophomores out of this list. p1440.org/fab50/Addison Conner Bella Scherfenberg Brielle Taylor Britain Taylor Brynn Hughbanks Elizabeth Selinger Estelle Reese Izzy Masten Jordyn Scribner Julia Anisimova Keira Faragalla Olga Nikolaeva Sorry didn’t mean that to sound harsh, I just laugh at the rankings as a lot are based on how many of those tournaments are played…so kids who play every weekend may be ranked literally 1st and get destroyed by girls who are ranked wayyy lower as they don’t play that sanctioning body’s tournament as often. It is an issue at some of the bigger National tournaments. The pools the first day are a joke, you can end up with the 4th seed killing everyone…really messes up the brackets 😂 the way USAVP is doing it now with only 3 top makes more sense. These girls have played some Women’s Open, some more than others and there may be others I missed: Jordyn Scribner (Made NTDP u19 Training, I believe only 26 to make that other than Wood) Allyn Brewer Kara Namimatsu Britain Taylor (played in AVP Huntington Qualifier, also 190 on USAVP rankings so above all on your list except Wood) may have been missed as she comes up as 17u….wondering if others are 17u that were missed) Brielle Taylor (played in AVP Huntington Qualifier, also 191 on USAVP so above all on list but Wood, also 30 on p1440) Sara Moynihan (may go indoor) Ruby Cochran Clara Evans Bella Scherfenberg (has a sister who is a ‘28 who is also very good) Emma Champagne Olga Nikolaeva (a lot of Open, plays with Treumann some who you listed as a 27 ) Audrey Flanagan (may go indoor) Also of note USC assistant just went and did a very small clinic in Missouri at p4:13 club. UCLA head coach, FSU head coach, LSU head coach, Texas assistant, FAU head coach, South Carolina head coach, Tulane (I think head and assistant) and Coastal Carolina (head coach) were all there. 2026s that were there: Bella Scherfenberg Blaire Bowers Britain Taylor Brielle Taylor Jordyn Scribner Clara Evans Izzy Masten (may go indoor) Julia Anisimova Brynn Hughbanks I think there may have been a few other 2026 who were local girls and did some of the smaller program clinics but this group was in USC I believe. Their club posted about it a lot on Instagram. I don’t think Wood does any of this stuff, camps, or any of that….having made Main Draw already I don’t think she needs to. She is playing with Pater this summer and I believe Fernandez in trials so I think USC or UCLA…unless Texas or someone can throw a lot of money at her. I have athletes I coach in this age group and kids talk…and oddly it seems many of them don’t seem that interested in USC. They may get Wood but not sure how many of the others will land there? Time will tell. |
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Post by vballfanattic on Jun 16, 2024 13:00:13 GMT -5
Guesses for top 2 pairs at USC next season? Is Coakley good enough to start right away at 1s as the blocker or will it be Maddi White? Have to think Henson is the 1s defender and then Pater vs Truslow vs Thomas for the 2s defender spot?
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Post by hbmb10k on Jun 16, 2024 15:31:16 GMT -5
Guesses for top 2 pairs at USC next season? Is Coakley good enough to start right away at 1s as the blocker or will it be Maddi White? Have to think Henson is the 1s defender and then Pater vs Truslow vs Thomas for the 2s defender spot? Hard to say at any of these courts. Good possibility of sandbagging going on. Putting that aside, the coaches seem to rank blockers, but defenders are just slotted in depending on the weakness/strengths of each player. You have one or two blockers that set poorly, they can't be paired up with undersized hitters where it's critical they have a credible set. Some blockers go out of system more often, they need a quick, athletic defender, a fixer. You wanna pair the best players that don't have these weaknesses at the 1 or 2'? That will just compound the problems in the lower courts. |
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