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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 25, 2021 0:52:11 GMT -5
Welcome to the fun! My first match was against Penn State in 2006, also very memorable. Oooh I remember that match. The ovation when Thompson came out to warm up was something else. I was front and center that match, and readily remember how impressed I was with how powerful Fawcett was. I remember reading a quote from Rose afterward about how he generally thought home court advantage wasn't much of a thing, but in that match the home fans really did have an impact on the outcome. The fans were actually pretty brutal at razzing Megan Hodge, because I guess they had hoped she might have come to Washington but chose PSU instead. (This certainly ended up working out OK for her!) I didn't know why they were razzing her every time she touched the ball, but it did seem to have an effect. |
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Post by hammer on Oct 25, 2021 1:10:16 GMT -5
Yeah, my point is just that Stanford has allowed its opponents to hit at a concerningly high percentage this season. This isn't isolated to this match. I'm not saying that Stanford can't improve on this front the rest of the way, but it's something to keep an eye on in my opinion. What do you consider "high"? WSU hit .191, Colo .149, Utah .202, Oregon .204. UW's .348 would be disconcerting, but not because it is a trend. Stanford is hitting .284 in the Pac-12 and allowing .188, so that's not bad. However, during the preseason, Stanford allowed .272 to its six ranked opponents while hitting .252. I didn't compare Stanford vs all ranked opponents, which would include UCLA, U-Dub, Utah, WSU, Florida, Texas, Minnesota, Penn St, Neb, and Kentucky, but it is pretty close to break even. |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 25, 2021 5:41:02 GMT -5
Dawgs with the ol' Forward Sweep.
Have to be honest, did not see this coming.
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Post by ShaneM2005 on Oct 25, 2021 8:04:36 GMT -5
Washington's outsides seemed to just crack the ball out of system. I thought Stanford did a fine job the first two sets getting Washington out of system, but it just didn't matter because they seemed to get a good swing in almost every rally.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 11:52:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but the Cardinal has the highest-powered offense in the PAC. So they can usually afford to get into a drag race for points rather than get bogged down into a defensive match. Yeah, I'm aware that Stanford has a good offense. I didn't say they can't get to the Final Four. Just that right now, that opponent hitting percentage is high. Here are the opponent hitting percentages for the Final Four teams over the last seven years (the NCAA doesn't have the data listed further back): 2020 0.158 0.177 0.204 0.148 2019 0.176 0.196 0.165 0.180 2018 0.163 0.144 0.143 0.168 2017 0.154 0.144 0.171 0.179 2016 0.178 0.202 0.147 0.192 2015 0.172 0.179 0.163 0.180 2014 0.146 0.149 0.181 0.154 A lot of those teams had very good offenses. For example, 2016 Texas, the owner of the .202 opponent hitting percentage, hit .307. I mean, if my team, BYU, was allowing its opponents to hit .217, I would be concerned, even though they're hitting .339 themselves. Are these tournament-only averages or regular-season averages or both? |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 11:57:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm aware that Stanford has a good offense. I didn't say they can't get to the Final Four. Just that right now, that opponent hitting percentage is high. Here are the opponent hitting percentages for the Final Four teams over the last seven years (the NCAA doesn't have the data listed further back): 2020 0.158 0.177 0.204 0.148 2019 0.176 0.196 0.165 0.180 2018 0.163 0.144 0.143 0.168 2017 0.154 0.144 0.171 0.179 2016 0.178 0.202 0.147 0.192 2015 0.172 0.179 0.163 0.180 2014 0.146 0.149 0.181 0.154 A lot of those teams had very good offenses. For example, 2016 Texas, the owner of the .202 opponent hitting percentage, hit .307. I mean, if my team, BYU, was allowing its opponents to hit .217, I would be concerned, even though they're hitting .339 themselves. Are these tournament-only averages or regular-season averages or both? These are the final season averages, so I think that would include all matches. You can find them at the NCAA's website here. Just select women's volleyball as the sport, D1 as the division, and the year you want to look at. Then click on the team tab and finally use the dropdown to get opp. hitting percentage (some years have it listed on the main team page). I didn't realize until just now, but it looks like you can also look at the reports from each week. So you could look at just the pre-tournament numbers if you wanted to rather than looking at the entire season. I might do that, actually, when I have some time. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2021 12:10:16 GMT -5
Hambly after yesterday's match (Seattle Times story):
“They’re experienced and they play really good volleyball,” Hambly said. “We got them out of system quite a bit, actually, and had some opportunities, but they were good out of system. In every aspect they were better than us, especially offensively. They just look like a team that’s been to a Final Four and knows how to execute at a high level in a big match. We’re still learning that stuff right now.”
Cook:
What impressed Cook the most? “Quality touches at the net and defensive effort behind it,” he said. “It’s been absent for lots of matches. We haven’t been great defensively at the net or behind it, and today both of them showed up against some really talented attackers. That defense led to offense, and all of a sudden it looks like the Huskies again.”
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2021 12:17:08 GMT -5
It's telling that Cook chose to highlight the team's defensive effort. This team will go as far as the the defense will carry it. Not too worried about the offense right now.
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 12:47:55 GMT -5
It's telling that Cook chose to highlight the team's defensive effort. This team will go as far as the the defense will carry it. Not too worried about the offense right now. I hadn't realized it until now, but Washington's season opponent hitting percentage of .215 is also high. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 12:48:44 GMT -5
Are these tournament-only averages or regular-season averages or both? These are the final season averages, so I think that would include all matches. You can find them at the NCAA's website here. Just select women's volleyball as the sport, D1 as the division, and the year you want to look at. Then click on the team tab and finally use the dropdown to get opp. hitting percentage (some years have it listed on the main team page). I didn't realize until just now, but it looks like you can also look at the reports from each week. So you could look at just the pre-tournament numbers if you wanted to rather than looking at the entire season. I might do that, actually, when I have some time. Yeah, those stats include the regular season along with the tournament. I think looking at pre-tournament stats, for your analysis is a good idea. IIRC, most national champs have had a regular-season hitting percentage > .300 and an opponent hitting percentage < .200 |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 25, 2021 12:50:02 GMT -5
It's telling that Cook chose to highlight the team's defensive effort. This team will go as far as the the defense will carry it. Not too worried about the offense right now. I hadn't realized it until now, but Washington's season opponent hitting percentage of .215 is also high. Last year it was .204, highest number in your list. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 12:54:02 GMT -5
These are the final season averages, so I think that would include all matches. You can find them at the NCAA's website here. Just select women's volleyball as the sport, D1 as the division, and the year you want to look at. Then click on the team tab and finally use the dropdown to get opp. hitting percentage (some years have it listed on the main team page). I didn't realize until just now, but it looks like you can also look at the reports from each week. So you could look at just the pre-tournament numbers if you wanted to rather than looking at the entire season. I might do that, actually, when I have some time. Yeah, those stats include the regular season along with the tournament. I think looking at pre-tournament stats, for your analysis is a good idea. IIRC, most national champs had a hitting percentage > .300 and an opponent hitting percentage < .200 For Final Four teams, the break points I saw were at .270 for hitting percentage and .200 (or .190) for opponent hitting percentage. For national champions specifically, it looks like .180 is where the cutoff is for opponent hitting percentage. Both 2015 Nebraska and 2016 Stanford hit .274. And going back a bit further, 2011 UCLA hit .250. Granted, those numbers include the tournament. I will get around to looking at the pre-tournament numbers when I get a chance. |
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Post by Huskyfan on Oct 25, 2021 12:54:22 GMT -5
It's telling that Cook chose to highlight the team's defensive effort. This team will go as far as the the defense will carry it. Not too worried about the offense right now. I hadn't realized it until now, but Washington's season opponent hitting percentage of .215 is also high. This probably reflects Keegan's comments about Huskies not there defensively both at the net and behind it. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 25, 2021 12:55:19 GMT -5
I hadn't realized it until now, but Washington's season opponent hitting percentage of .215 is also high. Last year it was .204, highest number in your list. Yes, that is correct. Washington also had the lowest team hitting percentage of the 28 teams at .253. Their Final Four run was pretty remarkable. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2021 12:58:20 GMT -5
Yeah, those stats include the regular season along with the tournament. I think looking at pre-tournament stats, for your analysis is a good idea. IIRC, most national champs had a hitting percentage > .300 and an opponent hitting percentage < .200 For Final Four teams, the break points I saw were at .270 for hitting percentage and .200 (or .190) for opponent hitting percentage. For national champions specifically, it looks like .180 is where the cutoff is for opponent hitting percentage. Both 2015 Nebraska and 2016 Stanford hit .274. And going back a bit further, 2011 UCLA hit .250. Granted, those numbers include the tournament. I will get around to looking at the pre-tournament numbers when I get a chance. This sounds right. Good work. |
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