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Post by slxpress on Jul 18, 2023 14:00:12 GMT -5
Well, we’ll see. We’re in a highly disruptive period for media companies. I also hate the movie industry business model, and have for a couple of decades. But Disney has a lot of valuable assets. A company loses half their value in a short span of time and it’s fair to say they’re in crisis mode. But I still believe it’s way more likely ESPN is spun off than Disney gets bought out. But we’ll see. They have had failure after failure in movies and tv and streaming but we know most their money comes from parks. But even that is struggling now. Tell me you have seen that ultimate disaster that is the new Snow White. I’d be shocked that if In end it didn’t go straight to Disney plus. Hollywood is straight allergic to creativity now it seems. Same crap over and over and over. Lol Well, we’re getting into the weeds on a subject I may be more passionate about than volleyball. There are better places for me to have this conversation. I have extremely strong views on the inevitability of Hollywood’s decline and how they hoisted themselves with their own petard, but this is not a good forum for that discussion. The truth is Disney’s troubles absolutely impact college sports, but it’s not clear how. The value of the content seems to keep going up, not down. How we’ll be paying for that content in the future and how much it will be is more uncertain. Of course things go up in value until they don’t. I always liked Hemingway’s quote in The Sun Also Rises about how someone went bankrupt. “Gradually and then suddenly.” |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 18, 2023 14:46:09 GMT -5
They have had failure after failure in movies and tv and streaming but we know most their money comes from parks. But even that is struggling now. Tell me you have seen that ultimate disaster that is the new Snow White. I’d be shocked that if In end it didn’t go straight to Disney plus. Hollywood is straight allergic to creativity now it seems. Same crap over and over and over. Lol Well, we’re getting into the weeds on a subject I may be more passionate about than volleyball. There are better places for me to have this conversation. I have extremely strong views on the inevitability of Hollywood’s decline and how they hoisted themselves with their own petard, but this is not a good forum for that discussion. Maybe you could post your views on Off the Net? I would be interested in reading them. |
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Post by slxpress on Jul 18, 2023 14:53:58 GMT -5
Well, we’re getting into the weeds on a subject I may be more passionate about than volleyball. There are better places for me to have this conversation. I have extremely strong views on the inevitability of Hollywood’s decline and how they hoisted themselves with their own petard, but this is not a good forum for that discussion. Maybe you could post your views on Off the Net? I would be interested in reading them. I’ll check it out. Thank you for your interest. I take it as a compliment, and I appreciate it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2023 16:02:06 GMT -5
Yeah started going off topic. Disney was originally brought up cause of the part they play in ACC which would be relevant to realignment but the movies and stuff is side tangent
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 18, 2023 16:14:37 GMT -5
Disney being the owner of ABC and ESPN does make it relevant if they are in financial trouble, which would be relevant to this conversation.
That being said, I'm not convinced Disney is in any kind of serious financial trouble. I think that the Disney-DeSantis war is suddenly making some people want to claim that Disney is failing. And that is an Off The Net topic.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 18, 2023 16:36:45 GMT -5
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38031370/source-pac-12-media-rights-deal-expected-futureGreat news for the PAC. ESPN report saying a deal close to being done and will be similar in $'s to ACC and B12. Combination of linear and streaming. Details are really going to be interesting - will there be equal revenue sharing? Sounds like the GOR will run same length as TV contract. Very curious to see who is the linear partner here. As of now - CBS hasn't mentioned this story - so ESPN has the jump on it. Also - expansion from 10 looks unlikely at this point - all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West. Now if Colorado were to bolt for the B12 - then that could change things. That being said - I cannot see any reason for the B12 to invite Colorado. Especially if it didn't also include Arizona (which is now looking unlikely).
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 18, 2023 16:41:53 GMT -5
all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West They never left. They pulled their letter before the deadline. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 18, 2023 16:50:27 GMT -5
all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West They never left. They pulled their letter before the deadline. Probably. Last I heard, the Mountain West has accepted their withdrawal from the conference and as such are holding back payment from this year ($6-8M) as downpayment on their exit fee. Has the Mtn West paid them their money owed - that would be a key here. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 18, 2023 17:04:47 GMT -5
all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West They never left. They pulled their letter before the deadline. Eh, that's a question for the lawyers. The Mountain West accepted their resignation before they withdrew it. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 18, 2023 17:10:29 GMT -5
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38031370/source-pac-12-media-rights-deal-expected-futureGreat news for the PAC. ESPN report saying a deal close to being done and will be similar in $'s to ACC and B12. Combination of linear and streaming. Details are really going to be interesting - will there be equal revenue sharing? Sounds like the GOR will run same length as TV contract. Very curious to see who is the linear partner here. As of now - CBS hasn't mentioned this story - so ESPN has the jump on it. Also - expansion from 10 looks unlikely at this point - all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West. Now if Colorado were to bolt for the B12 - then that could change things. That being said - I cannot see any reason for the B12 to invite Colorado. Especially if it didn't also include Arizona (which is now looking unlikely). Hmm, we'll see. The Pac-12 has supposedly been close to a deal for like eight months. Lol, I initially misread the report and thought the deal would be announced at Pac-12 media day on Friday. But it actually says that it won't be announced then. So this may be an attempt to spin the lack of a deal. The ESPN report doesn't really say that the deal is actually close. It says that a league source asserted that it was close. As I said, we'll see. |
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Post by brooselee on Jul 18, 2023 17:15:03 GMT -5
www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38031370/source-pac-12-media-rights-deal-expected-futureGreat news for the PAC. ESPN report saying a deal close to being done and will be similar in $'s to ACC and B12. Combination of linear and streaming. Details are really going to be interesting - will there be equal revenue sharing? Sounds like the GOR will run same length as TV contract. Very curious to see who is the linear partner here. As of now - CBS hasn't mentioned this story - so ESPN has the jump on it. Also - expansion from 10 looks unlikely at this point - all the more reason for SDSU to find their way back to the Mountain West. Now if Colorado were to bolt for the B12 - then that could change things. That being said - I cannot see any reason for the B12 to invite Colorado. Especially if it didn't also include Arizona (which is now looking unlikely). Hmm, we'll see. The Pac-12 has supposedly been close to a deal for like eight months. Lol, I initially misread the report and thought the deal would be announced at Pac-12 media day on Friday. But it actually says that it won't be announced then. So this may be an attempt to spin the lack of a deal. The ESPN report doesn't really say that the deal is actually close. It says that a league source asserted that it was close. As I said, we'll see. Yeah…I also thought I read they were supposed to announce it in media day and now they said they WON’T announce it in media day. They are just kicking the can down the road until someone gives in. Near future could be six months from now. BTW…if Colorado do sign in on the deal, they will be faced with a hefty exit fee so I don’t see them bolting AFTER signing the deal. What could be happening now is Colorado is inquiring about how much they can command if they go to the Big 12 now and how much the PAC12 is worth. Once the deal is signed, everything will stay put because no conference is going to let members leave at will without paying hefty fees. I wouldn’t be surprised if exit fees could reach 50-100 million….just to deter teams from screwing the conference over by leaving and voiding a signed agreement. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 18, 2023 17:16:25 GMT -5
They never left. They pulled their letter before the deadline. Eh, that's a question for the lawyers. The Mountain West accepted their resignation before they withdrew it. OK, well, we'll see what happens then. |
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 18, 2023 17:22:26 GMT -5
Eh, that's a question for the lawyers. The Mountain West accepted their resignation before they withdrew it. OK, well, we'll see what happens then. The Mountain West board meeting was yesterday (sans San Diego State present because they are not officially in the conference), but no announcement of the decision has been made. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 18, 2023 20:57:17 GMT -5
San Diego State gets off easy with just having to cover the Mountain West's legal fees during this saga.
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Post by horns1 on Jul 18, 2023 21:21:20 GMT -5
I can't tell which is the most recent and accurate update
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