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Post by brooselee on Oct 11, 2024 21:36:45 GMT -5
Well, you're a jaded, bitter New Mexico fan. Your school was left in the dust. I understand why you need to lie to yourself and anyone else who will listen, about the PAC.
I mean, I'm a BYU fan for the most part. New Mexico is mostly for men's basketball. And even then, I'm just as much of a UConn fan as I am a New Mexico fan, as I've actually been rooting for UConn for longer. Anyway, you are absolutely delusional if you think the Pac-12 is anything but a glorified MWC. Like did you go to school at one of the Pac-2 schools or one of the Mountain West defectors or something? Your obsession with them is bizarre. For the record, if New Mexico got in over say, Utah State, that would not change my opinion on the matter. The Pac-12 is a G5 regardless of which schools it has. Of course, the PAC is currently a glorified G5 conference. When you have 3 G5 programs(Memphis, Tulane and UConn) turn down offers from the PAC, you got to wonder about the glorified part. They are a G5 conference whose next addition could be a FCS school in Sacramento State. There is no school left for the PAC to steal away and make a case for P4 status in the near future. Gonna have to prove it on the field and on the court over the next decade to warrant any P4 consideration. The PAC wasted a sh@tload of money stealing teams away from the MWC and trying to join the big boys and looks like it’s not going according to plan. Probably on Plan H now. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel for teams to join. |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 11, 2024 21:39:44 GMT -5
The Pac-12 is a G5 regardless of which schools it has. So?  Pretending like the truth of this sentence matters even in the slightest, relative to any of the things I've said ... is just absurd. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 11, 2024 21:44:10 GMT -5
I mean, I'm a BYU fan for the most part. New Mexico is mostly for men's basketball. And even then, I'm just as much of a UConn fan as I am a New Mexico fan, as I've actually been rooting for UConn for longer. Anyway, you are absolutely delusional if you think the Pac-12 is anything but a glorified MWC. Like did you go to school at one of the Pac-2 schools or one of the Mountain West defectors or something? Your obsession with them is bizarre. For the record, if New Mexico got in over say, Utah State, that would not change my opinion on the matter. The Pac-12 is a G5 regardless of which schools it has. Of course, the PAC is currently a glorified G5 conference. When you have 3 G5 programs(Memphis, Tulane and UConn) turn down offers from the PAC, you got to wonder about the glorified part. They are a G5 conference whose next addition could be a FCS school in Sacramento State. There is no school left for the PAC to steal away and make a case for P4 status in the near future. Gonna have to prove it on the field and on the court over the next decade to warrant any P4 consideration. The PAC wasted a sh@tload of money stealing teams away from the MWC and trying to join the big boys and looks like it’s not going according to plan. Probably on Plan H now. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel for teams to join. Yeah, I agree with everything you said. I'm not the one trying to claim that they're still some premier brand. And technically, more schools than just those three turned them down. There is also UTSA, USF and UNLV (twice). So that's six G5 schools (and seven total G5 offers) that turned them down. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 11, 2024 21:49:18 GMT -5
P12 is not the premier conference with a presence in the West (see: the one that has USC/UCLA/UW/UO).
There are no premier conferences that are purely Western (see: the 2 left-behinds from the legacy PAC being the strongest brands remaining).
So trying to say it's "the premier conference" that is purely Western is like saying someone's the smartest person in Oshkosh, NE. Sure, by process of elimination, there has to be one - but what does that get you?
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Post by brooselee on Oct 11, 2024 22:16:53 GMT -5
OSU and WSU have set some ridiculous terms for anyone joining the conference. A 30-40 million dollar exit fee. There is also uneven revenue sharing with the two schools getting the lion’s shares. OSU and WSU have veto power over any major decisions. One school’s AD(it was Memphis State I think) came out publicly and kind of denounce the PAC for the way hierarchy was set up. The two schools are the kings and everyone else falls into the “inferior members” category.
They won’t get many candidates the way OSU and WSU are looking down at other schools and also making themselves to be big shots. Nobody is that desperate to join a conference that set up like that.
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 11, 2024 22:34:21 GMT -5
OSU and WSU have set some ridiculous terms for anyone joining the conference. A 30-40 million dollar exit fee. There is also uneven revenue sharing with the two schools getting the lion’s shares OSU and WSU have veto power One school’s AD(it was Memphis State I think) came out publicly and kind of denounce the PAC for the way hierarchy was set up. The two schools are the kings and everyone else falls into the “inferior members” category. They won’t get many candidates the way OSU and WSU are looking down at other schools and also making themselves to be big shots. Nobody is that desperate to join a conference that set up like that. I think the issue is that Oregon State and Washington State remain in denial that they've been relegated and will never be in a power conference again. They really should have just done the Mountain West merger rather than blow their war chest on exit fees and poaching penalties and still be a full member short. |
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Post by rtael on Oct 11, 2024 22:34:57 GMT -5
P12 is not the premier conference with a presence in the West (see: the one that has USC/UCLA/UW/UO). There are no premier conferences that are purely Western (see: the 2 left-behinds from the legacy PAC being the strongest brands remaining). So trying to say it's "the premier conference" that is purely Western is like saying someone's the smartest person in Oshkosh, NE. Sure, by process of elimination, there has to be one - but what does that get you? Ouch. What did the fine folks of Oshkosh ever do to you? |
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Post by brooselee on Oct 11, 2024 22:36:37 GMT -5
OSU and WSU have set some ridiculous terms for anyone joining the conference. A 30-40 million dollar exit fee. There is also uneven revenue sharing with the two schools getting the lion’s shares OSU and WSU have veto power One school’s AD(it was Memphis State I think) came out publicly and kind of denounce the PAC for the way hierarchy was set up. The two schools are the kings and everyone else falls into the “inferior members” category. They won’t get many candidates the way OSU and WSU are looking down at other schools and also making themselves to be big shots. Nobody is that desperate to join a conference that set up like that. I think the issue is that Oregon State and Washington State remain in denial that they've been relegated and will never be in a power conference again. They really should have just done the Mountain West merger rather than blow their war chest on exit fees and poaching penalties and still be a full member short. Yep. Would have made everything so much easier and less chaotic. When you’re on Plan H, you know you’ve screw up big time. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 11, 2024 22:46:50 GMT -5
P12 is not the premier conference with a presence in the West (see: the one that has USC/UCLA/UW/UO). There are no premier conferences that are purely Western (see: the 2 left-behinds from the legacy PAC being the strongest brands remaining). So trying to say it's "the premier conference" that is purely Western is like saying someone's the smartest person in Oshkosh, NE. Sure, by process of elimination, there has to be one - but what does that get you? Ouch. What did the fine folks of Oshkosh ever do to you? See: The politics board on Volleytalk. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 11, 2024 23:22:48 GMT -5
Speaking of the OSU/WSU spending their settlement cash on absolutely stupid things, Oregon St. is paying Wake Forest $750k for a buy game - but it's a HOME AND HOME.
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Post by brooselee on Oct 12, 2024 0:29:58 GMT -5
Speaking of the OSU/WSU spending their settlement cash on absolutely stupid things, Oregon St. is paying Wake Forest $750k for a buy game - but it's a HOME AND HOME. Waste money...el stupido |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 12, 2024 8:05:15 GMT -5
I'm a BYU fan for the most part. Perfectly explains your bitterness and jadedness towards the PAC: since BYU was never good enough to warrant inclusion, while Utah was. Pac-12 is anything but a glorified MWC. It doesn't matter in the slightest if that's true. It's also still true that the PAC is the premier brand of Western conferences (of the 2 main ones). |
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 12, 2024 8:06:06 GMT -5
with a presence in the West Your sleight of hand changing of the wording here, is rejected.
That's not what was said and is disallowed.
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 12, 2024 8:07:08 GMT -5
(it was Memphis State I think) There is no such school.
There is the University of Memphis, though. Maybe do some research before trying to join the conversation?
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Post by mplsgopher on Oct 12, 2024 8:08:11 GMT -5
Has significantly higher research than the University of Oregon.
Is this the only state where the Land Grant flagship has higher research than the historical public flagship?? How pathetic!!  |
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