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Post by bbg95 on Oct 20, 2021 12:00:32 GMT -5
It’s a very serviceable football conference and one hell of a MBB conference. And a slightly better volleyball conference. That reminds me. I think at one point you mentioned that you were going to write something about the RPI implications of the new Big 12. Is that still something you're working on? From my perspective, I'm most interested to know how a Big 12 schedule will affect BYU's RPI rather than a WCC schedule. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 20, 2021 12:40:14 GMT -5
And a slightly better volleyball conference. That reminds me. I think at one point you mentioned that you were going to write something about the RPI implications of the new Big 12. Is that still something you're working on? From my perspective, I'm most interested to know how a Big 12 schedule will affect BYU's RPI rather than a WCC schedule. I plan to do this in the offseason. 1) it will take up time that I use during the season 2) better to compare with final RPI and not midseason RPI Futures. My expectation is that BYU will be greatly helped in terms of RPI by moving to the B12. I am not so sure any of the other 10 schools will be much different. Depends on how much parity there will be after BYU/Baylor. It will also matter whether the B12 will go to a 20 game conference season (tough to do practically with an odd number of teams and also worse in terms of RPI) - or an 18 game conference season. I should be able to quantify what the 2021 RPI for each team would have been with the conference changes. |
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Post by vbnerd on Oct 20, 2021 13:09:25 GMT -5
No, it was the Big 10 for Kansas. I remember being specifically told Kansas was the single most attractive remaining property outside the ACC/SEC/PAC12/B1G That had been true and some people may still feel that way, but Kansas has had a rough last few years. It's been mentioned that when the sports media knows every member of your compliance staff on a first name basis, you might have a problem. Suing adidas employees for paying your basketball recruits but then renewing your contract with adidas? When one of your football players turns four other players in for dealing drugs, and rather than punish the drug dealers, they cut a UNIVERSITY CHECK for $50,000 to the whistleblower to go away and sign an NDA? Snoop Dog showering your players with money and women at Midnight Madness to make fun of the NCAA? Look, if you aren't cheating, you are not trying, but nobody wants to play with a team that is so obvious about it. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 20, 2021 13:10:35 GMT -5
That reminds me. I think at one point you mentioned that you were going to write something about the RPI implications of the new Big 12. Is that still something you're working on? From my perspective, I'm most interested to know how a Big 12 schedule will affect BYU's RPI rather than a WCC schedule. I plan to do this in the offseason. 1) it will take up time that I use during the season 2) better to compare with final RPI and not midseason RPI Futures. My expectation is that BYU will be greatly helped in terms of RPI by moving to the B12. I am not so sure any of the other 10 schools will be much different. Depends on how much parity there will be after BYU/Baylor. It will also matter whether the B12 will go to a 20 game conference season (tough to do practically with an odd number of teams and also worse in terms of RPI) - or an 18 game conference season. I should be able to quantify what the 2021 RPI for each team would have been with the conference changes. Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 20, 2021 14:13:41 GMT -5
I remember being specifically told Kansas was the single most attractive remaining property outside the ACC/SEC/PAC12/B1G That had been true and some people may still feel that way, but Kansas has had a rough last few years. It's been mentioned that when the sports media knows every member of your compliance staff on a first name basis, you might have a problem. Suing adidas employees for paying your basketball recruits but then renewing your contract with adidas? When one of your football players turns four other players in for dealing drugs, and rather than punish the drug dealers, they cut a UNIVERSITY CHECK for $50,000 to the whistleblower to go away and sign an NDA? Snoop Dog showering your players with money and women at Midnight Madness to make fun of the NCAA? Look, if you aren't cheating, you are not trying, but nobody wants to play with a team that is so obvious about it. When it comes to corruption and cheating, football and men's basketball are rife with them. That's why I am a volleyball fan. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 20, 2021 14:20:17 GMT -5
That had been true and some people may still feel that way, but Kansas has had a rough last few years. It's been mentioned that when the sports media knows every member of your compliance staff on a first name basis, you might have a problem. Suing adidas employees for paying your basketball recruits but then renewing your contract with adidas? When one of your football players turns four other players in for dealing drugs, and rather than punish the drug dealers, they cut a UNIVERSITY CHECK for $50,000 to the whistleblower to go away and sign an NDA? Snoop Dog showering your players with money and women at Midnight Madness to make fun of the NCAA? Look, if you aren't cheating, you are not trying, but nobody wants to play with a team that is so obvious about it. That's why I am a volleyball fan. lol I have bad news for you |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 20, 2021 14:23:10 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the Sun Belt is thinking about making moves. James Madison moving up to FBS would be interesting.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 20, 2021 14:38:12 GMT -5
That's why I am a volleyball fan. lol I have bad news for you Not saying that volleyball is pure and untouched, but at least it isn't a stinking cesspool. |
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Post by knapplc on Oct 20, 2021 14:50:08 GMT -5
lol I have bad news for you Not saying that volleyball is pure and untouched, but at least it isn't a stinking cesspool. Yeah. I'll take less corruption any day. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 20, 2021 15:22:52 GMT -5
I remember being specifically told Kansas was the single most attractive remaining property outside the ACC/SEC/PAC12/B1G That had been true and some people may still feel that way, but Kansas has had a rough last few years. It's been mentioned that when the sports media knows every member of your compliance staff on a first name basis, you might have a problem. Suing adidas employees for paying your basketball recruits but then renewing your contract with adidas? When one of your football players turns four other players in for dealing drugs, and rather than punish the drug dealers, they cut a UNIVERSITY CHECK for $50,000 to the whistleblower to go away and sign an NDA? Snoop Dog showering your players with money and women at Midnight Madness to make fun of the NCAA? Look, if you aren't cheating, you are not trying, but nobody wants to play with a team that is so obvious about it. Well, it may give other conferences pause when your attractiveness is based in no small part to how long Bill Self can stay ahead of the NCAA and/or Feds. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 20, 2021 16:24:48 GMT -5
That had been true and some people may still feel that way, but Kansas has had a rough last few years. It's been mentioned that when the sports media knows every member of your compliance staff on a first name basis, you might have a problem. Suing adidas employees for paying your basketball recruits but then renewing your contract with adidas? When one of your football players turns four other players in for dealing drugs, and rather than punish the drug dealers, they cut a UNIVERSITY CHECK for $50,000 to the whistleblower to go away and sign an NDA? Snoop Dog showering your players with money and women at Midnight Madness to make fun of the NCAA? Look, if you aren't cheating, you are not trying, but nobody wants to play with a team that is so obvious about it. Well, it may give other conferences pause when your attractiveness is based in no small part to how long Bill Self can stay ahead of the NCAA and/or Feds. That's amusing, but even if Kansas didn't have a cloud over them, their issue is still that their primary selling point is their men's basketball program, and men's basketball doesn't matter all that much for conference realignment discussions. I think I read that when the Big 12 was deciding on expansion candidates, football was 75% and basketball was 25%. And that calculus might be even more lopsided in football's favor in conferences like the SEC. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 21, 2021 1:23:12 GMT -5
Did the AAC just put the names of all of the CUSA schools into a hat, and draw six?
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 21, 2021 1:55:01 GMT -5
What's left of CUSA is FIU (220) La Tech (292) Marshall (168) Middle Tennessee (192) Old Dominion (221) Southern Miss (178) UTEP (89) Western Kentucky (21) Pairing them up into travel partners you'd have: LA Tech - S Miss W Kentucky - M Tennessee Marshall - Old Dominion So FIU and UTEP each need a travel partner. For UTEP there aren't many options. Texas St and New Mexico St are about it, without dipping into FCS. For FIU there are no more FBS Florida schools left, so that's where you are looking at probably Coastal Carolina. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 21, 2021 2:33:27 GMT -5
What's left of CUSA is FIU (220) La Tech (292) Marshall (168) Middle Tennessee (192) Old Dominion (221) Southern Miss (178) UTEP (89) Western Kentucky (21) Pairing them up into travel partners you'd have: LA Tech - S Miss W Kentucky - M Tennessee Marshall - Old Dominion So FIU and UTEP each need a travel partner. For UTEP there aren't many options. Texas St and New Mexico St are about it, without dipping into FCS. For FIU there are no more FBS Florida schools left, so that's where you are looking at probably Coastal Carolina. NMSU is a football independent right now, and it's less than an hour from El Paso. Though there's no guarantee that C-USA survives this (the Sun Belt is rumored to poach some of those schools). I read an article earlier suggesting that UTEP may find itself as a football independent if C-USA folds. |
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Post by karellen on Oct 21, 2021 8:13:19 GMT -5
Being reported this morning that Marshall and So Miss are moving to Sun Belt.
C-USA is losing more than 1/2 the teams in the league. Does it add and survive, or does everyone left find a new home and the league disappears?
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