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Post by trojansc on Oct 22, 2021 13:23:25 GMT -5
Beaumont is a hot topic. They're hosting a WAC crossover today. Four matches within two days. where? who? The WAC (and A-Sun) are doing some 'cross-over' formats where they gather multiple teams at one location. The A-Sun's are more intense. Seattle vs. UTRGV is underway now (at Lamar) Lamar plays Chicago State afterwards tomorrow Lamar plays Seattle UTRGV plays Chicago State afterwards (at Lamar) |
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Post by txvbcoach on Oct 22, 2021 13:25:07 GMT -5
The WAC (and A-Sun) are doing some 'cross-over' formats where they gather multiple teams at one location. The A-Sun's are more intense. Seattle vs. UTRGV is underway now (at Lamar) Lamar plays Chicago State afterwards tomorrow Lamar plays Seattle UTRGV plays Chicago State afterwards (at Lamar) I didn't know Chicago State was in the WAC. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 22, 2021 13:38:00 GMT -5
Beaumont is a hot topic. They're hosting a WAC crossover today. Four matches within two days. Words I never expected to see contained in a single sentence: “Beaumont” and “hot topic.” |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 22, 2021 14:09:42 GMT -5
The WAC (and A-Sun) are doing some 'cross-over' formats where they gather multiple teams at one location. The A-Sun's are more intense. Seattle vs. UTRGV is underway now (at Lamar) Lamar plays Chicago State afterwards tomorrow Lamar plays Seattle UTRGV plays Chicago State afterwards (at Lamar) I didn't know Chicago State was in the WAC. This is their final season in the WAC. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 22, 2021 15:44:34 GMT -5
I once heard a fact that stated: It's farther from Beaumont, Texas to El Paso, Texas than it is from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. I never bothered to fact check it but it was an eye opener to how huge Texas is geographically. Per Google Maps, it's (roughly) 739 from Beaumont to El Paso. It's roughly 590 miles from Beaumont to the nearest spot on the Pacific coast (just south of Tijuana). If you made a straight line, but stayed in the US, it's about 630 miles to the Pacific a bit north of San Diego. Texas is huge. To put it in perspective, Nebraska is a pretty large state at 77k square miles. Texas is nearly four times larger, at 268k square miles. To further put that in perspective, that makes Texas just a little less than half as large as Alaska, at 570k square miles. Note: no bananas were used in this comparison of scale. Texas is enormous. When I was younger, we moved from Denver to Houston. I remember it taking forever to get there after we crossed into Texas. |
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 22, 2021 15:46:42 GMT -5
Would the pac or WCC ever invite Hawaii? Even setting aside "thematic fit", those conferences would need to be convinced that the increased revenue by adding Hawaii offsets the massively increased travel costs of sending every team to Hawaii once per year. It's awesome that Hawaiians are passionate about their teams, but I don't think there is the interest on the mainland to move the needle when it comes to TV deals. Don’t really think the “thematic fit” argument as worth entertaining seriously, don’t really think Stanford and Arizona State have much in common besides a state boarder. I also don’t see the travel costs for pac schools being more of a burden on them than big West schools. From a recruiting/ increased competitiveness pov i think it makes sense but I know it’s more or less a pipe dream |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 22, 2021 15:47:45 GMT -5
The only school anywhere near UTEP is NMSU, and UTEP has prevented NMSU from joining their Conference every step along the way. So I don't think nearby opponents is something that they place much value on. Does UTEP really have enough power to block New Mexico State? I mean, they're UTEP, not Texas or Texas A&M. Ironically, NMSU is one of the main reasons that UTEP will likely never get into the Mountain West or at least won't get in unless NMSU gets in at the same time. My understanding is that New Mexico politics is behind this, as the legislature has threatened to cut UNM's funding if UTEP gets into the MWC without NMSU also. This is in response to UNM cutting their men's soccer and co-ed skiing teams (it appears that women's beach volleyball was also cut, and I was not aware that UNM sponsored that sport). Those were two of the most successful for the school (women's cross country--two national titles since 2015--is the most successful). Neither NMSU nor UTEP brings much to the table, so it's pretty easy just to refuse to add either of them. I suppose if the MWC got poached, that could change the calculus. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 22, 2021 15:55:20 GMT -5
The only school anywhere near UTEP is NMSU, and UTEP has prevented NMSU from joining their Conference every step along the way. So I don't think nearby opponents is something that they place much value on. Does UTEP really have enough power to block New Mexico State? I mean, they're UTEP, not Texas or Texas A&M. Ironically, NMSU is one of the main reasons that UTEP will likely never get into the Mountain West or at least won't get in unless NMSU gets in at the same time. My understanding is that New Mexico politics is behind this, as the legislature has threatened to cut UNM's funding if UTEP gets into the MWC without NMSU also. This is in response to UNM cutting their men's soccer and co-ed skiing teams (it appears that women's beach volleyball was also cut, and I was not aware that UNM sponsored that sport). Those were two of the most successful for the school (women's cross country--two national titles since 2015--is the most successful). Neither NMSU nor UTEP brings much to the table, so it's pretty easy just to refuse to add either of them. I suppose if the MWC got poached, that could change the calculus. Do you think that NMSU is an FBS Independent by choice? New Mexico keeps them out of the MWC, and UTEP keeps them out of CUSA, so they are stuck without a Conference for Football. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 22, 2021 16:30:41 GMT -5
Does UTEP really have enough power to block New Mexico State? I mean, they're UTEP, not Texas or Texas A&M. Ironically, NMSU is one of the main reasons that UTEP will likely never get into the Mountain West or at least won't get in unless NMSU gets in at the same time. My understanding is that New Mexico politics is behind this, as the legislature has threatened to cut UNM's funding if UTEP gets into the MWC without NMSU also. This is in response to UNM cutting their men's soccer and co-ed skiing teams (it appears that women's beach volleyball was also cut, and I was not aware that UNM sponsored that sport). Those were two of the most successful for the school (women's cross country--two national titles since 2015--is the most successful). Neither NMSU nor UTEP brings much to the table, so it's pretty easy just to refuse to add either of them. I suppose if the MWC got poached, that could change the calculus. Do you think that NMSU is an FBS Independent by choice? New Mexico keeps them out of the MWC, and UTEP keeps them out of CUSA, so they are stuck without a Conference for Football. No, I know they're not an independent by choice. I just didn't think anyone really cared what UTEP thought of anything. |
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 22, 2021 16:58:17 GMT -5
Texas is enormous. When I was younger, we moved from Denver to Houston. I remember it taking forever to get there after we crossed into Texas. No wonder. You had barely started that trip when you crossed into Texas. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 22, 2021 17:05:30 GMT -5
Conference USA is close to dead at this point unless they start calling up FCS schools.
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Post by gtrich on Oct 22, 2021 17:29:09 GMT -5
I once heard a fact that stated: It's farther from Beaumont, Texas to El Paso, Texas than it is from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. I never bothered to fact check it but it was an eye opener to how huge Texas is geographically. That is true. It is about 100 miles further to Beaumont than it is to San Diego. Going the other direction Beaumont is closer to Atlanta than it is to El Paso. Beaumont --> Atlanta - 709 miles Beaumont --> El Paso - 827 miles Heck, Houston is around 100 miles from the East-Texas border and it's only 50 miles closer to El Paso than it is to Atlanta Houston --> Atlanta - 793 miles Houston --> El Paso - 745 miles And if you hear there are tornados in Dallas, there is no need to call your friends in Houston to see if they are OK Dallas --> Houston 239 miles. |
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Post by trojansc on Oct 22, 2021 17:39:44 GMT -5
The WAC (and A-Sun) are doing some 'cross-over' formats where they gather multiple teams at one location. The A-Sun's are more intense. Seattle vs. UTRGV is underway now (at Lamar) Lamar plays Chicago State afterwards tomorrow Lamar plays Seattle UTRGV plays Chicago State afterwards (at Lamar) Not sure what the A-Sun has to do with anything. All these teams are in the WAC There was discussion about Beaumont, TX in like three consecutive posts. I posted that there was a crossover going on there. I didn't list the other crossover WAC matches going on at Abilene either. I mentioned the A-Sun because they *also* are doing crossover matches at one site. It's not something you see very often in conference formats. Liberty, Central Arkansas, FGCU, North Alabama, and Jacksonville State are all playing at Jacksonville U this weekend. (3 matches per team) Bellarmine, Stetson, Lipscomb, Kennesaw State, Eastern Kentucky are playing at North Florida. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Oct 22, 2021 18:16:08 GMT -5
Conference USA is close to dead at this point unless they start calling up FCS schools. So they are hanging the three former Sunbelt members out to dry? That proves that money isn't the be all end all. Vengeance plays a role too. |
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Post by pelican on Oct 22, 2021 18:25:45 GMT -5
I'm sure they were flying to the other Texas schools since the closest one was over 500 miles away. UTEP is closer to a number of schools in western states than it is to schools in the central and eastern parts of Texas. I once heard a fact that stated: It's farther from Beaumont, Texas to El Paso, Texas than it is from El Paso to the Pacific Ocean. I never bothered to fact check it but it was an eye opener to how huge Texas is geographically. On a related note, northeastern Tennessee is closer to Canada than to Memphis. |
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