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Post by silverchloride on Mar 30, 2022 22:34:06 GMT -5
Completely unofficial top 12 for 18O JO based on current AES rankings. Be interesting to see how it ends up in a few weeks.
1 A5
2 Sunshine LA
4 Houston Skyline
6 Coast
7 OT Chad
8 Mad Frog
9 Metro
10 Skyline Royal
11 Rockwood
12 AZ Storm
14 SAS
15 Tri State
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Post by outlaw on Mar 31, 2022 6:45:18 GMT -5
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Post by wonkaman on Mar 31, 2022 11:05:21 GMT -5
The Sunshine qualifier is this weekend. Tawa mentions that Metro 16 is 46-0. They have beaten their Metro 17 team and some 18 teams to win the Mid-Atlantic Power League 16-18 division. I actually saw them for the first time two weekends ago and they are powerful.
I would find it hard to believe that any team has two outsides as powerful as six rotation players Emerson Sellman and Macaria Spears. Spears is actually a 2025 and is the more explosive player but Sellman appears to be the most consistent. They both are listed at 6'2".
They have great depth at setter and run a 6'2" because they have powerful right sides. Natalie Nguyen is only 5'5" but sets a fast paced offense. Nothing is high and the hitters love her sets. Erin Debiec is 6'1" and would set a 5/1 for most teams. She is a good blocker and can hit hard but Metro just has better right sides that can block better and hit harder. Clara Yu could start for most teams in the Chesapeake is the third setter here, but there is not a lot that separates the three.
They have twins in Ryla Jones and Renee Jones. It is my understanding they are sisters of Rainelle Jones (have not been able to confirm that), who played for Maryland and was one of the more powerful blockers in the country. Renee stands 6"5 and puts up a wall on the right side. Ryla is 6'2" and plays middle.
Lilah Stevens is the other outside and is the only front row player less than 6'0". She stands 5'11" and has a good vertical. Athletic and explosive. The other middle is 6'2" Madison Bowser. She may still be a little raw but she can be a difference maker in the middle with her block.
The most overlooked person maybe the libero Mailinh Godschall. When you are watching all this explosiveness in the front row you tend to ignore the straw that stirs the drink and makes the passes to start the explosion.
They are a fun team to watch. They are playing on court 48 and appear to be the number one seed in the tournament.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Mar 31, 2022 11:23:07 GMT -5
They have twins in Ryla Jones and Renee Jones. It is my understanding they are sisters of Rainelle Jones (have not been able to confirm that), who played for Maryland and was one of the more powerful blockers in the country. Renee stands 6"5 and puts up a wall on the right side. Ryla is 6'2" and plays middle. They are indeed Rainelle's sisters. |
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Post by silverchloride on Mar 31, 2022 16:00:10 GMT -5
Excellent, I see they have been updated now. I think that gives AJV the Medal and the Bid, with a trickle down to NorCal. Still waiting for the Update to USAV Bid sheet. This is what you were referring to, I asked why there was a trickle down, and you very nicely explained to me how a trickle down works (thank you  ) But I do not think any of these teams were qualified. Sorry, I was mixed up. |
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Post by vbjustice on Mar 31, 2022 22:02:48 GMT -5
They have twins in Ryla Jones and Renee Jones. It is my understanding they are sisters of Rainelle Jones (have not been able to confirm that), who played for Maryland and was one of the more powerful blockers in the country. Renee stands 6"5 and puts up a wall on the right side. Ryla is 6'2" and plays middle. They are indeed Rainelle's sisters. yes! They are the real deal. All of them! |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Mar 31, 2022 22:29:54 GMT -5
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Post by silverchloride on Mar 31, 2022 23:02:27 GMT -5
Interesting. Dynasty 18s also posted they they accepted an at-large.
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Post by Kingsley on Mar 31, 2022 23:43:35 GMT -5
It's an interesting Dynasty Academy group. I remember watching them go 3-0 on Day 1 of NLQ pools as the bottom seed.
And, to go full circle, the #1 seed in that pool was VC United.
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Post by Gridballer on Apr 1, 2022 10:16:56 GMT -5
First post, so hopefully I don’t embarrass myself. Spent the weekend out at the Fiesta MLK Classic in Arizona and watched a lot of 17/18 division matches. Arizona’s 17’s division will come down to a dogfight between AZ Rev 17 and Aspire 17 Premier, both teams that will be factors in 17 Open in Indy. Rev took down Storm 18 Thunder and Jordan Middleton in 3 tight sets for the 17/18 division open title. Storm had a 14-12 lead in the 3rd set and Middleton had a swing to close it out, but she put a little too much juice on it and Rev made the most of that extra life by closing out the match with 2 aces to win 17-15. Aspire lost to Storm 18 Thunder in 3 sets in the semis in a very hotly-contested match. All three teams played at a high level on the final day. Observations on Rev 17: they have 3 big arms on the outside with Baylor-commit Kendall Murphy, class of 2024 standout Evan Hendrix and Eryn Jones, a player who may have slipped under the radar but should be getting some serious looks by a lot of programs. Rev runs through those three and they try to move all of them around to keep opposing defenses on their toes. Setting is good, nothing spectacular, and middles are big and get their hands on a lot of balls. Rev has two solid setters, but the most effective is Kymberly Yoza, who has surprising athletic ability for a 5-7 player. Aspire 17 Premier beat a COVID-depleted Storm 18 Thunder in the opening seeding tournament a couple weeks ago, so it is actually the top seeded Open team in the Arizona Region. Aspire, like Rev, has 3 top-tier hitters; Washington-commit Kierstyn Barton; Neomi Beach, who has one of the most electric right arms in the age group; and Long Beach State commit Avery Burks, who serves as the glue for this team. All three of these players had stretches during the tournament where they simply took over the match with their attack. Aspire’s middles are a lot like Rev’s, big, move well and get their hands on a lot of balls. Offensively, the middles aren’t quite there yet, but it is early in the season and you can see a lot of potential from those players on both teams. Aspire opened the tournament playing two setters, Rutgers commit Georgia Lee and Olivia Tukuafu. Lee was not in the lineup on the final day (injured the day before), so Tukuafu ran the offense on the final day. In system, Tukuafu was dialed in against Storm 18 Thunder. At 6-0, Tukuafu is strong at the net, as well, and had some key putaways. Storm 18 Thunder is a dangerous team due to the presence of Middleton, whose talent is well known in these circles. Storm also has a solid No. 2 on the outside in Chloe Murakami, who is a dual-sport athlete (basketball) that is surprisingly uncommitted. Long Beach State signee Kylie Moran is the third hitter on the outside for Storm. In fact, in the match against Aspire 17, there were 3 Beach commits on the floor, with Moran, Burks and Storm middle Ella Lomigora, who had spent the last 4 years on the Aspire team. Storm’s setter is North Carolina commit Anita Babic, who looks very comfortable in the Storm offense and is an improving blocker. I know this is an older post, but the analysis is spot-on accurate and insightful. It seems Prepvolleyball (I know - everyone is saying it's inaccurate) picks a random name on the roster or walks once by the court to see who is playing and picks two random players to include in their write-ups. I'm wondering if Prepvolleyball could work with one representative from each region to summarize the performance of the players during region play and qualifiers. That way you get quality information rather than quick musings. As a "reward" for being a contributing author, those region reps could get free subscriptions to the site. Crowdsourcing this informations seems like a much better mechanism. |
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Post by Gridballer on Apr 1, 2022 13:07:06 GMT -5
AES does rankings, which many tournaments do for seedings. I don't know how accurate their rankings are and what criteria they use. When enough tournament results are input into AES their rankings appear pretty accurate. The smaller samplings can be spurious. Does anyone know what criteria they use to establish their rankings? Hopefully it is not dependent on just won/loss. With Sportswrench, it is used to report tournament results but as far as I know has nothing to do with rankings. Those tournament results are not input into AES. If you are a club I am told you can manually input those results into AES. Input the good, ignore the bad and your ranking rises. Some, most or possibly all regions use AES for seeding and to identify the top teams to qualify to play in the regional qualifier. It would be nice to have one system where you know all information is input, especially when regions use it to determine who will play in Nationals. But all of this I hear from third sources. When people look at rankings in AES are they confident of the accuracy? There will always be disagreement. What I am looking for is "close enough for government work". It may not be totally accurate but it is good enough where you can get a sense of who the best clubs in each region are and who are the top national clubs. Here's a link to the AES ranking rationale. There are some pretty big errors in their rankings that I can see (There are 5 teams my daughter's team has beaten ranked ahead of them, including one we've beaten twice), but I guess it's the best they can do. Does anyone know if AES is a significant consideration in USAV national qualifier and USAV nationals seeding? www.advancedeventsystems.com/rankings/about |
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Post by silverchloride on Apr 2, 2022 17:37:36 GMT -5
Here are the 4 18 Open At-Large Recipients;
Dynasty Academy
VC United
Circle City
Vital VBC
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Post by clob on Apr 2, 2022 18:53:46 GMT -5
The Sunshine qualifier is this weekend. Tawa mentions that Metro 16 is 46-0. They have beaten their Metro 17 team and some 18 teams to win the Mid-Atlantic Power League 16-18 division. I actually saw them for the first time two weekends ago and they are powerful. I would find it hard to believe that any team has two outsides as powerful as six rotation players Emerson Sellman and Macaria Spears. Spears is actually a 2025 and is the more explosive player but Sellman appears to be the most consistent. They both are listed at 6'2". They have great depth at setter and run a 6'2" because they have powerful right sides. Natalie Nguyen is only 5'5" but sets a fast paced offense. Nothing is high and the hitters love her sets. Erin Debiec is 6'1" and would set a 5/1 for most teams. She is a good blocker and can hit hard but Metro just has better right sides that can block better and hit harder. Clara Yu could start for most teams in the Chesapeake is the third setter here, but there is not a lot that separates the three. They have twins in Ryla Jones and Renee Jones. It is my understanding they are sisters of Rainelle Jones (have not been able to confirm that), who played for Maryland and was one of the more powerful blockers in the country. Renee stands 6"5 and puts up a wall on the right side. Ryla is 6'2" and plays middle. Lilah Stevens is the other outside and is the only front row player less than 6'0". She stands 5'11" and has a good vertical. Athletic and explosive. The other middle is 6'2" Madison Bowser. She may still be a little raw but she can be a difference maker in the middle with her block. The most overlooked person maybe the libero Mailinh Godschall. When you are watching all this explosiveness in the front row you tend to ignore the straw that stirs the drink and makes the passes to start the explosion. They are a fun team to watch. They are playing on court 48 and appear to be the number one seed in the tournament.
Looks like the Metro 16's picked up their first loss of the season this morning to Flyers APX?
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Post by silverchloride on Apr 2, 2022 19:22:40 GMT -5
The Sunshine qualifier is this weekend. Tawa mentions that Metro 16 is 46-0. They have beaten their Metro 17 team and some 18 teams to win the Mid-Atlantic Power League 16-18 division. I actually saw them for the first time two weekends ago and they are powerful. I would find it hard to believe that any team has two outsides as powerful as six rotation players Emerson Sellman and Macaria Spears. Spears is actually a 2025 and is the more explosive player but Sellman appears to be the most consistent. They both are listed at 6'2". They have great depth at setter and run a 6'2" because they have powerful right sides. Natalie Nguyen is only 5'5" but sets a fast paced offense. Nothing is high and the hitters love her sets. Erin Debiec is 6'1" and would set a 5/1 for most teams. She is a good blocker and can hit hard but Metro just has better right sides that can block better and hit harder. Clara Yu could start for most teams in the Chesapeake is the third setter here, but there is not a lot that separates the three. They have twins in Ryla Jones and Renee Jones. It is my understanding they are sisters of Rainelle Jones (have not been able to confirm that), who played for Maryland and was one of the more powerful blockers in the country. Renee stands 6"5 and puts up a wall on the right side. Ryla is 6'2" and plays middle. Lilah Stevens is the other outside and is the only front row player less than 6'0". She stands 5'11" and has a good vertical. Athletic and explosive. The other middle is 6'2" Madison Bowser. She may still be a little raw but she can be a difference maker in the middle with her block. The most overlooked person maybe the libero Mailinh Godschall. When you are watching all this explosiveness in the front row you tend to ignore the straw that stirs the drink and makes the passes to start the explosion. They are a fun team to watch. They are playing on court 48 and appear to be the number one seed in the tournament.
Looks like the Metro 16's picked up their first loss of the season this morning to Flyers APX?
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Post by silverchloride on Apr 2, 2022 19:24:43 GMT -5
Looks like the Metro 16's picked up their first loss of the season this morning to Flyers APX?
PrepVB wrote that Metro 16s went undefeated today. And I can see that they are mistaken. Yes, lost to the Flyers.
Mea Culpa, PrepVB was reporting on Day 1.
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) But I do not think any of these teams were qualified. 
