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Post by Wiswell on Dec 15, 2021 16:47:30 GMT -5
I dunno Rob. Dana's ace ratio is pretty high. Although Smrek is even higher. 😂
To the larger point:. That's why we have moneyball Gary White doing the stats to pick the best people on serve receive and as part of the greater whole.
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Post by wiscvball on Dec 15, 2021 16:47:56 GMT -5
Ok... I just watched the whole Louisville press conference (linked above). What an amazingly well spoken team - especially Tori. They seem so grounded, focused, prepared, together - I can see how Dani's leadership of that program led them to where they are today.
Obviously, I won't be rooting for them tomorrow, but if they win, I'll be pulling hard for them in the final. I love their style of play and they have a new fan in me for future seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 16:48:46 GMT -5
I can't tell if you're finally showing some angst against Izzy Who? Oh, I see what you did there... Yeah you got me. No, it's limited to players that actually can contribute and hurt us. They can have all the Big Ten bench level players, from Select, that they want. We'll take Big Ten starters from Lights.  (yes, I know Hilley is from Select. That was part of the troll job) |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2021 16:54:01 GMT -5
Loberg is the key.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 16:57:18 GMT -5
I can't tell if you're finally showing some angst against Izzy Who? Oh, I see what you did there... Yeah you got me. No, it's limited to players that actually can contribute and hurt us. They can have all the Big Ten bench level players, from Select, that they want. We'll take Big Ten starters from Lights. (yes, I know Hilley is from Select. That was part of the troll job) Wisconsin scored 8 points on Ashburn's serves Saturday night. As many as on Barnes's serves, and one more than on Syd's serves. (And of course, "points on serve" is the entire match; the team that scores more points on their serve necessarily wins the set.) If you'd like, I'll be happy to go check how successful Izzy was in the other two matches this year. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2021 17:02:19 GMT -5
We really can't take a certain poster seriously. There is another option.
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Post by colby on Dec 15, 2021 17:02:37 GMT -5
Chill, I'm a Badgers fan. But that tandem is weak in service reception. Sorry, I don't have any numbers to back that up, but it sure seems like they're aren't siding out as much (or at least not as quickly) when the serve hits one of that duo, or the seam. Obviously. But just as obviously, those two bring other benefits by being on the floor, and you get a limited number of subs to use in a given set, and Sheffield uses them all. If teams were hitting that seam "time after time" and it was the flaw you want to make it out to be, then they would not be having the success they have. If you have a better suggesting for a substitution rotation, then lay it out for us. But don't just pick one aspect in isolation. Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2021 17:04:31 GMT -5
Obviously. But just as obviously, those two bring other benefits by being on the floor, and you get a limited number of subs to use in a given set, and Sheffield uses them all. If teams were hitting that seam "time after time" and it was the flaw you want to make it out to be, then they would not be having the success they have. If you have a better suggesting for a substitution rotation, then lay it out for us. But don't just pick one aspect in isolation. Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. If Louisville has such a simple strategy for winning, they are toast. I don't believe it. Not for a second. |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 17:11:10 GMT -5
Obviously. But just as obviously, those two bring other benefits by being on the floor, and you get a limited number of subs to use in a given set, and Sheffield uses them all. If teams were hitting that seam "time after time" and it was the flaw you want to make it out to be, then they would not be having the success they have. If you have a better suggesting for a substitution rotation, then lay it out for us. But don't just pick one aspect in isolation. Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. Everybody targets Orzol when she's on the floor back row. That's nothing new. When Lo moves back to take the line, everybody targets that seam. That's nothing new. Every coach all year has told their team... it's nothing new. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 17:23:16 GMT -5
Wisconsin scored 8 points on Ashburn's serves Saturday night. She can serve underhand, and Rettke gets a block or kill = I.A. must be first team All-Big Ten! |
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Post by colby on Dec 15, 2021 17:27:22 GMT -5
Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. Everybody targets Orzol when she's on the floor back row. That's nothing new. When Lo moves back to take the line, everybody targets that seam. That's nothing new. Every coach all year has told their team... it's nothing new. It's nothing new, but shanked passes leading to weak hits and freeballs against Louisville might not turn out as well as it has against other teams this year. I'm convinced Louisville will be the best team they've played. On the bright side, I thought Civita was excellent with her passing against Minnesota. On some really tough serves, she was able to give Hilley a fighting chance, and Gio passed BBs on some of the less-challenging serves. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2021 17:27:44 GMT -5
Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. Everybody targets Orzol when she's on the floor back row. That's nothing new. When Lo moves back to take the line, everybody targets that seam. That's nothing new. Every coach all year has told their team... it's nothing new. Exactly. As a strategy, it has worked exactly three times. The match after Hart went down, and two matches immediately or soon after Civita when down with her 4th ACL. Minnesota almost made it work in Minneapolis. But it's a different team now. Civita is back. Smrek is on the right. Demps hitting out of back row and serving well. There is no way Busboom-Kelly really thinks this is the key. It just cannot be. It's just one thing they will try. |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 17:35:15 GMT -5
Wisconsin scored 8 points on Ashburn's serves Saturday night. She can serve underhand, and Rettke gets a block or kill = I.A. must be first team All-Big Ten! LOL! I think it is Wiswell who uses this: tell me you don't follow the Wisconsin substitution rotation without saying you don't follow the Wisconsin substitution rotation. Izzy is a serving sub who comes in when it is Rettke's turn to serve. Rettke is quite literally *never* on the court when Ashburn is serving. ------------------------- I went ahead and checked the other two Minn matches. UW scored 10 points on Izzy's serve in the first, and - this is interesting - only 2 in the 5 set match. So in the three matches, it was 10 in a three-set sweep, only 2 in a 5-set "escape" and 8 in a three set sweep. Almost like there's a correlation or something.  |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2021 17:37:45 GMT -5
Everybody targets Orzol when she's on the floor back row. That's nothing new. When Lo moves back to take the line, everybody targets that seam. That's nothing new. Every coach all year has told their team... it's nothing new. Exactly. As a strategy, it has worked exactly three times. The match after Hart went down, and two matches immediately or soon after Civita when down with her 4th ACL. Minnesota almost made it work in Minneapolis. But it's a different team now. Civita is back. Smrek is on the right. Demps hitting out of back row and serving well. There is no way Busboom-Kelly really thinks this is the key. It just cannot be. It's just one thing they will try. Small correction: the first Purdue match was the one during which Civita tore her plantar fascia, fairly early in the first set, IIRC. The second Purdue match was while she was out with that torn fascia. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 17:44:18 GMT -5
UW scored 10 points on Izzy's serve in the first, and - this is interesting - only 2 in the 5 set match. So in the three matches, it was 10 in a three-set sweep, only 2 in a 5-set "escape" and 8 in a three set sweep. It’s great that she sometimes gets the ball over the net, and then lets her teammates score a point sometimes. All-Big Ten first team, for sure. Gophs missed bigly |
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(yes, I know Hilley is from Select. That was part of the troll job)
