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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2021 8:45:16 GMT -5
It should be a dead heat, why is that a surprise?
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Post by maplespear on Dec 16, 2021 9:31:31 GMT -5
Is it 6 pm CST yet ?
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Post by huskersrule95 on Dec 16, 2021 9:32:58 GMT -5
Betting odds are
Louisville -190
Wisconsin +145
Over/under 180.5 points
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Post by robtearle on Dec 16, 2021 10:06:14 GMT -5
Somebody had commented that Busboom Kelly will be telling her team "If you see Orzol and Loberg next to each other in SR, that's your target. Hit that spot and you win." Of course, it's not quite as simple as that. I didn't say there's a better option, because I'd rather have Orzol and Loberg passing than any of the bench/rotational options. But it's a weak spot in serve-receive teams are trying hard to exploit. Let's hope they can hold up tomorrow night, because quick side outs may be more important in this match than in any they've played all year ... because Louisville is good and all. Sorry everybody is coming at you Colby when I AM THE ONE WHO MADE THE INITIAL COMMENT. Responding to the criticism you are receiving. Yes, Orzol and Loberg together are a weak spot in serve receive. Yes, Loberg bails out far too much as somebody who is in a primary passer position. This is most obviously not the only thing L'ville will be using for their entire game plan, to even suggest that is just looking to troll other responders. Nobody is suggesting better rotations because that is also a dumb comment, this is the lineup they have settled on and one they have successfully used for the past 2 months. It can be a bad lineup and still be successful, they are not mutually exclusive. It is a weak point though and to suggest it isn't is akin to an ostrich sticking its head in the ground. When I saw the responses to you, I thought Nebraska posters and all of their defensiveness had suddenly taken over the match thread. Certainly not much difference. Nobody is suggesting it isn't a weak spot. |
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2021 10:15:49 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points What were they for Nebraska-Texas? |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 16, 2021 10:25:36 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points Can you explain to a total gambling novice how to read this? Seriously, I once went to a casino night and nearly had a panic attack playing blackjack with Monopoly money for raffle tickets. I'm terrible at this stuff. |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 16, 2021 10:29:18 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points What were they for Nebraska-Texas? The thing to remember about "Vegas odds" is that they do not reflect what the odds-makers think will happen; they are set - and moved - to the point where half the money comes in on one side and half comes in on the other side. "Vegas" very much does not want to be in the position of winning or losing; they just want half the money on each side so they collect their 5% on the total bet. Now, the collective 'wisdom' of the bettors often turns out to be correct, but they also frequently get it wrong. And to the extent that a casual bettor sees "undefeated" vs "three losses", that might inflate the amount bet on Louisville, such that they need to move the line to generate more money coming in on the Wisconsin side, to maintain their half-and-half goal. Similarly, assuming there are more Nebraska fans betting on their match than Pitt fans, that would tend to "artificially" move the line on that match towards Pitt, gain for the half-and-half goal. So Vegas odds are interesting, but not particularly meaningful, IMO. |
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 16, 2021 10:32:14 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points Can you explain to a total gambling novice how to read this? Seriously, I once went to a casino night and nearly had a panic attack playing blackjack with Monopoly money for raffle tickets. I'm terrible at this stuff. Basically, the team with the negative number is favored. |
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Post by colby on Dec 16, 2021 10:33:20 GMT -5
Sorry everybody is coming at you Colby when I AM THE ONE WHO MADE THE INITIAL COMMENT. Responding to the criticism you are receiving. Yes, Orzol and Loberg together are a weak spot in serve receive. Yes, Loberg bails out far too much as somebody who is in a primary passer position. This is most obviously not the only thing L'ville will be using for their entire game plan, to even suggest that is just looking to troll other responders. Nobody is suggesting better rotations because that is also a dumb comment, this is the lineup they have settled on and one they have successfully used for the past 2 months. It can be a bad lineup and still be successful, they are not mutually exclusive. It is a weak point though and to suggest it isn't is akin to an ostrich sticking its head in the ground. When I saw the responses to you, I thought Nebraska posters and all of their defensiveness had suddenly taken over the match thread. Certainly not much difference. We're all good!  |
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Post by nevollfan on Dec 16, 2021 10:35:18 GMT -5
The poll of 181 people for the winner reflects, I think, the closeness of the match. It really is a toss of the coin. Whoever can play their game more, and dictate more their physical attributes wins.
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Post by nevollfan on Dec 16, 2021 10:35:31 GMT -5
The poll of 181 people for the winner reflects, I think, the closeness of the match. It really is a toss of the coin. Whoever can play their game more, and dictate more their physical attributes wins.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 16, 2021 10:36:36 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points Can you explain to a total gambling novice how to read this? Seriously, I once went to a casino night and nearly had a panic attack playing blackjack with Monopoly money for raffle tickets. Louisville -190 means you have to bet $190 to win $100. That is, Louisville is almost (edited, for clarity) a 1-to-2 favorite. Wisconsin +145 means bet $100 to win $145. (And note that the two don't "balance". If Louisville is "-190", shouldn't Wisconsin be "+190"? No. The difference between "+145" and +190" is where Vegas makes their money.) Over/under is the number of total points played during the match. If it only goes three sets, that number of points will be well below 180 total points played, and people who bet the "under" win their bet. If it goes five sets, the total number of points played will be more that 180 and the "over" will certainly win. The ".5" makes sure the total falls one side or the other, even if the total turns out to be 180 total points or 181 total points. |
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Post by colby on Dec 16, 2021 10:42:44 GMT -5
Can you explain to a total gambling novice how to read this? Seriously, I once went to a casino night and nearly had a panic attack playing blackjack with Monopoly money for raffle tickets. Louisville -190 means you have to bet $190 to win $100. That is, Louisville is almost a 2-to-1 favorite. Wisconsin +145 means bet $100 to win $145. (And note that the two don't "balance". If Louisville is "-190", shouldn't Wisconsin be "+190"? No. The difference between "+145" and +190" is where Vegas makes their money.) Over/under is the number of total points played during the match. If it only goes three sets, that number of points will be well below 180 total points played, and people who bet the "under" win their bet. If it goes five sets, the total number of points played will be more that 180 and the "over" will certainly win. The ".5" makes sure the total falls one side or the other, even if the total turns out to be 180 total points or 181 total points. So, the odds are essentially saying Louisville in 4? |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 16, 2021 10:45:25 GMT -5
Louisville -190 means you have to bet $190 to win $100. That is, Louisville is almost a 2-to-1 favorite. Wisconsin +145 means bet $100 to win $145. (And note that the two don't "balance". If Louisville is "-190", shouldn't Wisconsin be "+190"? No. The difference between "+145" and +190" is where Vegas makes their money.) Over/under is the number of total points played during the match. If it only goes three sets, that number of points will be well below 180 total points played, and people who bet the "under" win their bet. If it goes five sets, the total number of points played will be more that 180 and the "over" will certainly win. The ".5" makes sure the total falls one side or the other, even if the total turns out to be 180 total points or 181 total points. So, the odds are essentially saying Louisville in 4? The odds are saying the money comes in half on one side and half on the other if you set them to say "Louisville in 4". Not exactly the same thing. |
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Post by huskersrule95 on Dec 16, 2021 11:03:51 GMT -5
Betting odds are Louisville -190 Wisconsin +145 Over/under 180.5 points What were they for Nebraska-Texas? I think Texas was something like -400 Nebraska +250 |
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