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Post by vbstan123 on Dec 15, 2021 14:35:32 GMT -5
I personally think they are both deserving of where they are. Grome stepped into the shoes of the reigning national player of the year and did a great job. Kentucky’s early exit isn’t just on her shoulders and shouldn’t be. Nebraska without Roddy wouldn’t be in the final four. She has transformed this team into a national title contender once again and for a libero…well you just don’t see that too often. I mean, yes Roddy is very big for Nebraska but they are still probably the best defensive team in the country without her. No one has two DS that are as good as akana and knuckles. And no one has a setter who is as good defensively as hames. And Kubik is one of the best backcourt OHs in the country. It’s not like Roddy is carrying this Nebraska team and defense on her shoulders. I agree that they probably wouldn’t be here without her, but they wouldn’t be here without probably any of the starters from the Texas match. It’s not about what you do for your team, it’s about how good you are for the AA lost and I don’t think Roddy showed that she is better than fleck or Barnes This brings up an interesting point. Do people think other factors besides stats should decide the AA list? For example, some people are justifying Grome being second team because of the big shoes to fill (not saying this isn't accurate or Grome doesn't deserve second team, she had an incredible season), but I don't think thats a justifiable factor to putting her on second team.
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Post by bruinsgold on Dec 15, 2021 14:37:29 GMT -5
Maybe your opinion on Roddy is ridiculous? lol. It’s funny that NOBODY but Nebraska homers have disagreed with me there and my comment sure got a good amount of likes by knowledgeable posters. Doesn’t seem to be that ridiculous I agree that you agree that better liberos like Otec should've been higher on the list. You're right and you should say it LOUDLY!
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 15, 2021 14:39:36 GMT -5
all of this "better liberos" energy and not one mention of Abby Bottomley...
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Post by bruinsgold on Dec 15, 2021 14:42:59 GMT -5
all of this "better liberos" energy and not one mention of Abby Bottomley... Did you send the AVCA a Bottomley gift basket? Because I know I sent an Otec one and it would seem USPS lost it like they do everything else 😒
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Post by radioactiveman on Dec 15, 2021 14:45:46 GMT -5
Stivrins being robbed by fate sucks. Two matches. Even if she had those 2 matches and made anything more than 3rd team it wouldn’t have been for name recognition only. I love me some Stivrins but she was not playing like she has is past years. Not surprising since she’s only a few months out from surgery but there at a lot of middles who had better years.
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Post by donut on Dec 15, 2021 14:48:37 GMT -5
I am, however, anti-favoritism. Sorry I just need you to realize how hypocritical this is. You are literally the most biased Kentucky fan on here besides madden lol LOL. That's literally saying nothing, given there are only like two of us. And I don't think you understand what "favoritism" I'm talking about here... But ok, I'll bite! Help me find some biased posts. I went through the UK-Texas championship match thread last year, and my first substantive post was this: Texas has two things that don't spell good news for UK: tough serving and a big, physical net presence. On the other hand, Gabriel's block and Texas's floor defense work in UK's favor. UK wins if they pass well, IMO. UK's offense is designed to beat the block, which partially negates Texas's size. However, I just don't see UK keeping up with Texas OOS, if that's where the match is decided. We've had stretches of being good OOS offensively, but I think we'll struggle getting past UT's block. Hopefully, Stumler and Skinner can take better advantage of Gabriel's block than Wisky did. I think Phililps could also have a big night -- I wasn't super impressed with our LS block against Washington last night (see: Sanders). This might be my favorite Texas team ever, so whereas I'm very excited for the Cats, I think I'll be at peace with any outcome, as long as it's a competitive match. I'm hoping it's a banger -- two different styles, neither from the B1G or PAC! GO CATS! Ya, super biased. Nebraska fans could never.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 15, 2021 14:48:43 GMT -5
Maybe your opinion on Roddy is ridiculous? lol. It’s funny that NOBODY but Nebraska homers have disagreed with me there and my comment sure got a good amount of likes by knowledgeable posters. Doesn’t seem to be that ridiculous Nobody in all caps? You’re a smart guy and a knowledgeable fan, have no idea why the sweeping over generalizations or embellishment. Stick by your opinion, others will of course share that opinion. But ridiculous choice, only Nebraska homers agree? Thats equal parts absurd and untrue.
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Post by nellynel on Dec 15, 2021 14:49:15 GMT -5
The only thing I don’t get is Kubic at 3rd team who hit .207 on the year over one of the likes of one of the Skinner sisters, especially Avery. Not a hate Nebraska statement but can’t believe the Jersey didn’t have something to do with that. I think it’s a lot of respect for the completeness of her game. I’m happy people recognize that. Also most important player on her team that’s in FF She hit: <100: Ariz St, Utah, Louisville, Maryland, Indiana, Texas 100-200 Colgate, K-State, Creighton, Iowa, Purdue, Wisc, Minn, Penn St, Wisc, Fl St 200-300 Georgia, Northwesten, Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois, Purdue, Campbell, Illinois >300 Omaha, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio St Don’t think she played against Stanford, can’t remember if injury or the freshman playing (which would be another knock) I get her all round game and value to the team, but with that hitting to make 3rd team AA I hope she’s driving the bus and washing the jerseys too. Maybe she will come out and hit 400 in a win over Pitt, who knows.
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Post by mfs on Dec 15, 2021 14:49:30 GMT -5
I watched most of Nebraska's games this year. What impressed me the most about Roddy's play was how many of her digs were fantastic and came at critical times. She also gave good sets when Hames had first dig. Which was often. A lot of teams hit at Nicklin so she could not set middles.
Statistics do not tell the whole story. You get the same stat from passing a free ball as you do for a hard driven ball.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 15, 2021 14:53:51 GMT -5
There is a reason why there are eligibility requirements based on sets played. Per set contributions are great, but part of a player's overall value to their team is their availability for all of the team's matches/sets.
Obviously no one blames players for being injured, but when it comes to that, should a player who played in just less than 2/3 of their team's (regular season) sets push out players who played all year long?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 14:57:19 GMT -5
There is a reason why there are eligibility requirements based on sets played. Per set contributions are great, but part of a player's overall value to their team is their availability for all of the team's matches/sets. Obviously no one blames players for being injured, but when it comes to that, should a player who played in just less than 2/3 of their team's (regular season) sets push out players who played all year long? So true. Your first and greatest ability is your availability.
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 15, 2021 15:05:01 GMT -5
First team kinda seems ridiculous for Roddy. She’s been GREAT this year but there were better liberos. Also I LOVE Lund but first team ? Idk literally NOBODY is surprised you think this lol Like the line from Casablanca: "I'm shocked! Shocked!" says Madden.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 15, 2021 15:05:21 GMT -5
I think it’s a lot of respect for the completeness of her game. I’m happy people recognize that. Also most important player on her team that’s in FF She hit: <100: Ariz St, Utah, Louisville, Maryland, Indiana, Texas 100-200 Colgate, K-State, Creighton, Iowa, Purdue, Wisc, Minn, Penn St, Wisc, Fl St 200-300 Georgia, Northwesten, Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois, Purdue, Campbell, Illinois >300 Omaha, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio St Don’t think she played against Stanford, can’t remember if injury or the freshman playing (which would be another knock) I get her all round game and value to the team, but with that hitting to make 3rd team AA I hope she’s driving the bus and washing the jerseys too. Maybe she will come out and hit 400 in a win over Pitt, who knows. Again, sometimes athlete contributions aren’t quantifiable by a number or stat. She’s a high level passer, defender, blocker, passer, server and solid attacker. Also the engine of her team in a FF. I think there will be as many hot more people here who are surprised she maybe wasn’t 2nd team. If you reduce it to a hitting number, she isn’t an all American
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Post by andrewwmic on Dec 15, 2021 15:08:09 GMT -5
I think it’s a lot of respect for the completeness of her game. I’m happy people recognize that. Also most important player on her team that’s in FF She hit: <100: Ariz St, Utah, Louisville, Maryland, Indiana, Texas 100-200 Colgate, K-State, Creighton, Iowa, Purdue, Wisc, Minn, Penn St, Wisc, Fl St 200-300 Georgia, Northwesten, Mich St, Penn St, Rutgers, Iowa, Illinois, Purdue, Campbell, Illinois >300 Omaha, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio St Don’t think she played against Stanford, can’t remember if injury or the freshman playing (which would be another knock) I get her all round game and value to the team, but with that hitting to make 3rd team AA I hope she’s driving the bus and washing the jerseys too. Maybe she will come out and hit 400 in a win over Pitt, who knows. lol you this mad?
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Post by knapplc on Dec 15, 2021 15:10:00 GMT -5
This whole thread is
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