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Steve Aird
May 17, 2022 22:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by jackson5vb on May 17, 2022 22:44:58 GMT -5
I’d ask that you look at Purdue. Zero reason why IU job isn’t as good imo. I can assure there are no coaches in the Big who want to see Aird fired. Very good school, gorgeous campus, top shelf facility, great pay. This is potentially a terrific job. Purdue is actually one of the reasons I'm not that optimistic about Indiana. There are a lot of good to great competitor programs in that area. Not only is Indiana the fourth-best program in its own state, there are lots of other great programs in neighboring or nearby states that compete for recruits. And Purdue is probably the best program that hasn't been to the Final Four. The idea that Indiana should be just as good as Purdue is laughable in my view. Purdue, ND and who? |
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Post by bbg95 on May 17, 2022 22:48:34 GMT -5
Purdue is actually one of the reasons I'm not that optimistic about Indiana. There are a lot of good to great competitor programs in that area. Not only is Indiana the fourth-best program in its own state, there are lots of other great programs in neighboring or nearby states that compete for recruits. And Purdue is probably the best program that hasn't been to the Final Four. The idea that Indiana should be just as good as Purdue is laughable in my view. Purdue, ND and who? Ball State is better right now and historically in my opinion. Indiana has more potential in theory, but they've never realized it. |
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Post by volleynerdmw on May 18, 2022 7:27:18 GMT -5
Certainly the Munciana kids who went to IU were used to being screamed at and belittled Screamed at - at times, Belittled - highly doubt it. Not my experience. Was that your experience? I just described the experience |
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Post by volleynerdmw on May 18, 2022 7:29:46 GMT -5
Certainly the Munciana kids who went to IU were used to being screamed at and belittled So your team lost to a Muncie team this weekend? Bad take. Nothing to do with wins and losses. Highly successful program with great players coming out of there. Just standing there observing what is being said from the sideline. But fine... "bad take" |
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Post by tomclen on May 18, 2022 10:16:21 GMT -5
I will say this, Indiana VB is getting more pub on VT than at any time since I join the board almost 20 years ago.
So, props to Aird?!?
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 18, 2022 12:43:52 GMT -5
I’d ask that you look at Purdue. Zero reason why IU job isn’t as good imo. I can assure there are no coaches in the Big who want to see Aird fired. Very good school, gorgeous campus, top shelf facility, great pay. This is potentially a terrific job. Purdue is actually one of the reasons I'm not that optimistic about Indiana. There are a lot of good to great competitor programs in that area. Not only is Indiana the fourth-best program in its own state, there are lots of other great programs in neighboring or nearby states that compete for recruits. And Purdue is probably the best program that hasn't been to the Final Four. The idea that Indiana should be just as good as Purdue is laughable in my view. Where was Purdue when Dave got there? What does Purdue have that IU doesn’t also have if not better? Outside of their program performing better, give one tangible reason Indian couldn’t be as good? One. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 18, 2022 13:07:14 GMT -5
Purdue is actually one of the reasons I'm not that optimistic about Indiana. There are a lot of good to great competitor programs in that area. Not only is Indiana the fourth-best program in its own state, there are lots of other great programs in neighboring or nearby states that compete for recruits. And Purdue is probably the best program that hasn't been to the Final Four. The idea that Indiana should be just as good as Purdue is laughable in my view. Where was Purdue when Dave got there? What does Purdue have that IU doesn’t also have if not better? Outside of their program performing better, give one tangible reason Indian couldn’t be as good? One. Indiana has an administration that tolerates coaches who abuse their players, apparently. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 18, 2022 13:22:10 GMT -5
Where was Purdue when Dave got there? What does Purdue have that IU doesn’t also have if not better? Outside of their program performing better, give one tangible reason Indian couldn’t be as good? One. Indiana has an administration that tolerates coaches who abuse their players, apparently. Indiana didn't really care about volleyball for the previous 25 years (how long they kept the last two, fairly unsuccessful coaches). Aird is the only coach at Indiana who's been there with competitive facilities, resources, etc. |
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Steve Aird
May 18, 2022 13:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on May 18, 2022 13:36:34 GMT -5
Indiana has an administration that tolerates coaches who abuse their players, apparently. Indiana didn't really care about volleyball for the previous 25 years (how long they kept the last two, fairly unsuccessful coaches). Aird is the only coach at Indiana who's been there with competitive facilities, resources, etc. But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 18, 2022 13:40:30 GMT -5
Indiana didn't really care about volleyball for the previous 25 years (how long they kept the last two, fairly unsuccessful coaches). Aird is the only coach at Indiana who's been there with competitive facilities, resources, etc. But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. Well anyone who knows Dave and his skill set, knows that wasn’t luck. Having said that hiring a HS coach could very well have been in part because they didn’t care that much. The salary certainly suggested that. I believe Indiana could be a very good job. |
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Steve Aird
May 18, 2022 13:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 18, 2022 13:42:33 GMT -5
Where was Purdue when Dave got there? What does Purdue have that IU doesn’t also have if not better? Outside of their program performing better, give one tangible reason Indian couldn’t be as good? One. Indiana has an administration that tolerates coaches who abuse their players, apparently. We will see how it plays out. IMO the admin may have at least as much to answer for and may not keep their jobs. I am surprised there hasn’t been some sort of response or even acknowledgment of the article. |
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Post by karellen on May 18, 2022 13:45:18 GMT -5
Indiana didn't really care about volleyball for the previous 25 years (how long they kept the last two, fairly unsuccessful coaches). Aird is the only coach at Indiana who's been there with competitive facilities, resources, etc. But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. Dave was not just a high school coach. That was a brilliant hire (easy to say in hindsight, I know) and had nothing to do with luck. There were a lot of people who questioned that hire for no reason. Anyone who knew Dave was pretty confident he would do exactly what he has done. In a sense any hire has an element of luck, but Dave was a lot more than a just a high school coach. |
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Steve Aird
May 18, 2022 13:48:20 GMT -5
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 18, 2022 13:48:20 GMT -5
But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. Dave was not just a high school coach. That was a brilliant hire (easy to say in hindsight, I know) and had nothing to do with luck. There were a lot of people who questioned that hire for no reason. Anyone who knew Dave was pretty confident he would do exactly what he has done. In a sense any hire has an element of luck, but Dave was a lot more than a just a high school coach. Yup |
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Post by n00b on May 18, 2022 13:51:15 GMT -5
But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. Dave was not just a high school coach. That was a brilliant hire (easy to say in hindsight, I know) and had nothing to do with luck. There were a lot of people who questioned that hire for no reason. Anyone who knew Dave was pretty confident he would do exactly what he has done. In a sense any hire has an element of luck, but Dave was a lot more than a just a high school coach. Volleyball people know that. Athletic directors generally don’t. And even if they did know, it was almost certainly a cheaper hire than going out and hiring an established, successful D1 coach. Dave is one of the best coaches in the country. This has nothing to do with that. But I’m not sure I buy the argument that Purdue is a better program because their administration cared more about volleyball. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 18, 2022 13:56:35 GMT -5
Indiana didn't really care about volleyball for the previous 25 years (how long they kept the last two, fairly unsuccessful coaches). Aird is the only coach at Indiana who's been there with competitive facilities, resources, etc. But the question is which came first? Caring about volleyball or success? Purdue hired a high school coach who came in and built it into one of the best programs in the country. There’s a decent chance that was dumb luck. Purdue stumbled their way to a great hire - even if it's dumb luck, you only need to get lucky once. That neither of Indiana's hires didn't work out doesn't mean the program itself isn't as good of a job. Fact is, them finally caring in 2018 without the background context/knowledge probably hurt them, and made them more likely to fall for the corny sales pitch. |
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