mediawatcher
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Post by mediawatcher on Jul 3, 2022 19:54:37 GMT -5
Forgive me. I did not know that introductions were required for an anonymous chat board. I am a volleyball fan and in particular a B1G fan. I have no affiliation and am not diminishing any allegations. They are all very serious. I am simply looking at it from the other side. I came across the article on social media and like many it peaked an interest. Found this chat board during a random volleyball google search. Read and followed many threads but never felt the need to subscribe or post until I started reading here. So I joined and yes my first and only comments have been on this thread. Welcome. Your opinion counts! |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jul 3, 2022 21:11:43 GMT -5
Isn’t it interesting, that the public opinion is swinging the other way. More and more support for Steve Aird. Perhaps it was having a “bad Apple” recruit. (Get rid of them— or better yet don’t recruit them). I’m sure other coaches are adapting and are reviewing and evaluating players a little differently. Wonder how you evaluate a recruit to make sure that you don’t have a “sweet potato girl”. Do you talk to their teammates? Club coaches, in this environment, probably are overly cautious about player evaluations. Just wondering… What a load of BS. Were you hired to help with the clean up operation? |
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Post by photos1 on Jul 3, 2022 22:09:04 GMT -5
Isn’t it interesting, that the public opinion is swinging the other way. More and more support for Steve Aird. Perhaps it was having a “bad Apple” recruit. (Get rid of them— or better yet don’t recruit them). I’m sure other coaches are adapting and are reviewing and evaluating players a little differently. Wonder how you evaluate a recruit to make sure that you don’t have a “sweet potato girl”. Do you talk to their teammates? Club coaches, in this environment, probably are overly cautious about player evaluations. Just wondering… You clearly aren’t in Indy. . . Just saying. . . |
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Post by hangonsloopy on Jul 3, 2022 23:46:21 GMT -5
Isn’t it interesting, that the public opinion is swinging the other way. More and more support for Steve Aird. Perhaps it was having a “bad Apple” recruit. (Get rid of them— or better yet don’t recruit them). I’m sure other coaches are adapting and are reviewing and evaluating players a little differently. Wonder how you evaluate a recruit to make sure that you don’t have a “sweet potato girl”. Do you talk to their teammates? Club coaches, in this environment, probably are overly cautious about player evaluations. Just wondering… I’m genuinely interested what you’re basing this is off of. What gave you the indication that the public opinion is swinging towards Aird? And the “bad apple” argument just fails instantly when you remember that Sophie Oliphant (who for some reason is being singled out as a bad apple for simply being the only player airing her grievances out in public) wasn’t the only one that made public statements on social media criticizing Aird. Multiple players and their parents have been liking and retweeting posts criticizing Aird and you add that to the fact that a lot of players have either quit or transferred and the fact that article had quotes from 6 different players and I have no idea who you reached the conclusion that this was a case of a “bad apple” recruit. |
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Post by rjaege on Jul 4, 2022 6:16:41 GMT -5
Isn’t it interesting, that the public opinion is swinging the other way. More and more support for Steve Aird. Perhaps it was having a “bad Apple” recruit. (Get rid of them— or better yet don’t recruit them). I’m sure other coaches are adapting and are reviewing and evaluating players a little differently. Wonder how you evaluate a recruit to make sure that you don’t have a “sweet potato girl”. Do you talk to their teammates? Club coaches, in this environment, probably are overly cautious about player evaluations. Just wondering… I’m genuinely interested what you’re basing this is off of. What gave you the indication that the public opinion is swinging towards Aird? And the “bad apple” argument just fails instantly when you remember that Sophie Oliphant (who for some reason is being singled out as a bad apple for simply being the only player airing her grievances out in public) wasn’t the only one that made public statements on social media criticizing Aird. Multiple players and their parents have been liking and retweeting posts criticizing Aird and you add that to the fact that a lot of players have either quit or transferred and the fact that article had quotes from 6 different players and I have no idea who you reached the conclusion that this was a case of a “bad apple” recruit. No opinion here. Just an observation. We all receive unfair treatment at times, at least everyone I know. Deal with it, address it, if it cannot be resolved, move away and move on. Rarely is it in one's advantage to dwell on this. The word is clearly out, some players have found it necessary to move away from Coach Aird. At this point, he will be coaching at IU in 2022. Time will tell how he and the current IU players progress. At least for the players sake, give it a rest and give the players and team a chance. Also consider that Coach Aird <may have> (editted) recognized past mistakes and made corrections. We all make mistakes. Smart people recognize their fault, make corrections and move on. Suggest an IU VB thread focused on playing performance would be more productive at this point. Enough Aird kicking for now IMO. |
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Post by hangonsloopy on Jul 4, 2022 6:56:53 GMT -5
I’m genuinely interested what you’re basing this is off of. What gave you the indication that the public opinion is swinging towards Aird? And the “bad apple” argument just fails instantly when you remember that Sophie Oliphant (who for some reason is being singled out as a bad apple for simply being the only player airing her grievances out in public) wasn’t the only one that made public statements on social media criticizing Aird. Multiple players and their parents have been liking and retweeting posts criticizing Aird and you add that to the fact that a lot of players have either quit or transferred and the fact that article had quotes from 6 different players and I have no idea who you reached the conclusion that this was a case of a “bad apple” recruit. No opinion here. Just an observation. We all receive unfair treatment at times, at least everyone I know. Deal with it, address it, if it cannot be resolved, move away and move on. Rarely is it in one's advantage to dwell on this. The word is clearly out, some players have found it necessary to move away from Coach Aird. At this point, he will be coaching at IU in 2022. Time will tell how he and the current IU players progress. At least for the players sake, give it a rest and give the players and team a chance. Also consider that Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes and made corrections. We all make mistakes. Smart people recognize their fault, make corrections and move on. Suggest an IU VB thread focused on playing performance would be more productive at this point. Enough Aird kicking for now IMO. Lol “give it a rest”…..ok my post was in response to a post claiming that public opinion is now in favor of Aird and that in fact this was just a case of a bad recruit and that it’s now a case study for college coaches to do better research on their incoming recruits. When someone makes such as a claim, a response is warranted. Only people who seem to be dwelling on this are the ones who want to twist the whole thing into making people believe that nothing out of the ordinary happened and those kids were just “bad apples”. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 4, 2022 8:13:02 GMT -5
I’m genuinely interested what you’re basing this is off of. What gave you the indication that the public opinion is swinging towards Aird? And the “bad apple” argument just fails instantly when you remember that Sophie Oliphant (who for some reason is being singled out as a bad apple for simply being the only player airing her grievances out in public) wasn’t the only one that made public statements on social media criticizing Aird. Multiple players and their parents have been liking and retweeting posts criticizing Aird and you add that to the fact that a lot of players have either quit or transferred and the fact that article had quotes from 6 different players and I have no idea who you reached the conclusion that this was a case of a “bad apple” recruit. No opinion here. Just an observation. We all receive unfair treatment at times, at least everyone I know. Deal with it, address it, if it cannot be resolved, move away and move on. Rarely is it in one's advantage to dwell on this. The word is clearly out, some players have found it necessary to move away from Coach Aird. At this point, he will be coaching at IU in 2022. Time will tell how he and the current IU players progress. At least for the players sake, give it a rest and give the players and team a chance. Also consider that Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes and made corrections. We all make mistakes. Smart people recognize their fault, make corrections and move on. Suggest an IU VB thread focused on playing performance would be more productive at this point. Enough Aird kicking for now IMO. What past mistakes has he recognized, and how has he addressed them? You guys can't just make such assertions and not expect to be asked to substantiate them. |
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Post by rjaege on Jul 4, 2022 9:08:27 GMT -5
No opinion here. Just an observation. We all receive unfair treatment at times, at least everyone I know. Deal with it, address it, if it cannot be resolved, move away and move on. Rarely is it in one's advantage to dwell on this. The word is clearly out, some players have found it necessary to move away from Coach Aird. At this point, he will be coaching at IU in 2022. Time will tell how he and the current IU players progress. At least for the players sake, give it a rest and give the players and team a chance. Also consider that Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes and made corrections. We all make mistakes. Smart people recognize their fault, make corrections and move on. Suggest an IU VB thread focused on playing performance would be more productive at this point. Enough Aird kicking for now IMO. What past mistakes has he recognized, and how has he addressed them? You guys can't just make such assertions and not expect to be asked to substantiate them. Sorry "...consider Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes..." was intended to read "...consider Coach Aird may have recognized past mistakes..." My intent was not to justify past events, nor judge them, but to just move on and give him, his players and the team a chance to move past it and succeed. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 4, 2022 9:12:59 GMT -5
What past mistakes has he recognized, and how has he addressed them? You guys can't just make such assertions and not expect to be asked to substantiate them. Sorry "...consider Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes..." was intended to read "...consider Coach Aird may have recognized past mistakes..." My intent was not to justify past events, nor judge them, but to just move on and give him, his players and the team a chance to move past it and succeed. As for your recommendation that I "move on": no. |
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Post by rjaege on Jul 4, 2022 9:50:22 GMT -5
Sorry "...consider Coach Aird has recognized past mistakes..." was intended to read "...consider Coach Aird may have recognized past mistakes..." My intent was not to justify past events, nor judge them, but to just move on and give him, his players and the team a chance to move past it and succeed. As for your recommendation that I "move on": no. Wish there was a dislike button. IMO at this point further bashing Aird for past issues says more about you than him. Also it has the potential to hurt his current players as much as him. The IU players deserve the opportunity to play without dwelling on the past controversy. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 4, 2022 9:57:07 GMT -5
As for your recommendation that I "move on": no. Wish there was a dislike button. IMO at this point further bashing Aird for past issues says more about you than him. Also it has the potential to hurt his current players as much as him. The IU players deserve the opportunity to play without dwelling on the past controversy. That assumes the 'controversy' is 'past'. Wish there were a dislike button. |
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on Jul 4, 2022 10:23:52 GMT -5
As for your recommendation that I "move on": no. Wish there was a dislike button. IMO at this point further bashing Aird for past issues says more about you than him. Also it has the potential to hurt his current players as much as him. The IU players deserve the opportunity to play without dwelling on the past controversy. What are you on about? You're using a whole lot of words to say nothing of substance... |
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Post by ineedajob on Jul 4, 2022 10:25:19 GMT -5
Wish there was a dislike button. IMO at this point further bashing Aird for past issues says more about you than him. Also it has the potential to hurt his current players as much as him. The IU players deserve the opportunity to play without dwelling on the past controversy. That assumes the 'controversy' is 'past'. Wish there were a dislike button. I agree with that poster that your "further bashing Aird for past issues says more about you than him." It tells me that you care more than he does about the proper treatment of players. Carry on. |
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Post by mgk_vball on Jul 4, 2022 23:18:30 GMT -5
Isn’t it interesting, that the public opinion is swinging the other way. More and more support for Steve Aird. Perhaps it was having a “bad Apple” recruit. (Get rid of them— or better yet don’t recruit them). I’m sure other coaches are adapting and are reviewing and evaluating players a little differently. Wonder how you evaluate a recruit to make sure that you don’t have a “sweet potato girl”. Do you talk to their teammates? Club coaches, in this environment, probably are overly cautious about player evaluations. Just wondering… I’m genuinely interested what you’re basing this is off of. What gave you the indication that the public opinion is swinging towards Aird? And the “bad apple” argument just fails instantly when you remember that Sophie Oliphant (who for some reason is being singled out as a bad apple for simply being the only player airing her grievances out in public) wasn’t the only one that made public statements on social media criticizing Aird. Multiple players and their parents have been liking and retweeting posts criticizing Aird and you add that to the fact that a lot of players have either quit or transferred and the fact that article had quotes from 6 different players and I have no idea who you reached the conclusion that this was a case of a “bad apple” recruit. this poor girl has been through enough. Not sure what an anonymous user can gain after calling a 20 year old girl a “bad apple” without knowing her or any of the major context that was mentioned in the article but too much of a trigger for socialmedia-video post. I hope she doesn’t read this board. My heart goes out to her. Get a clue. |
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Post by tomclen on Jul 5, 2022 5:48:48 GMT -5
The Aird story will be "over" when it falls off of page 1 of VT for 30 consecutive days.
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