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Post by PostPrime on May 24, 2022 23:57:31 GMT -5
Assuming you're thinking of Rutgers? I was thinking about Wisconsin and setters today, and how it will be a new one this season after nine (!) years of only Carlini and Hilley. And that got me to wondering about setters other than those two who started/played in those nine years (I haven't looked it up, but MJ Hamill started a match vs Minn during the COVID season when Hilley was out with COVID, likely the only non-Hilley start), and a match vs Rutgers back in 2014 came to mind. Last match of the B1G schedule, at Rutgers, Carlini was apparently nursing a minor injury or some such, so with the conference championship essentially already won (IIRC), Sheffield decided to try to give Carlini the night off, and started Erin Juley. Rutgers hadn't won a B1G match, and you could count the number of sets they had won on one hand. Rutgers won the first set. For Carlini, there was no night off; she played the next three sets for the UW win. Try for a night off at your own risk. lmao. B1G homers are annoying. Yes the conference is great. But There are certainly multiple teams that are cake walks for the good teams in the big Yes but those multiple teams would likely win championships in most conferences. Also, I wouldn’t use the term cake walk. The line is closer than you think.
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Post by rjaege on May 25, 2022 0:58:49 GMT -5
Assuming you're thinking of Rutgers? I was thinking about Wisconsin and setters today, and how it will be a new one this season after nine (!) years of only Carlini and Hilley. And that got me to wondering about setters other than those two who started/played in those nine years (I haven't looked it up, but MJ Hamill started a match vs Minn during the COVID season when Hilley was out with COVID, likely the only non-Hilley start), and a match vs Rutgers back in 2014 came to mind. Last match of the B1G schedule, at Rutgers, Carlini was apparently nursing a minor injury or some such, so with the conference championship essentially already won (IIRC), Sheffield decided to try to give Carlini the night off, and started Erin Juley. Rutgers hadn't won a B1G match, and you could count the number of sets they had won on one hand. Rutgers won the first set. For Carlini, there was no night off; she played the next three sets for the UW win. Try for a night off at your own risk. lmao. B1G homers are annoying. Yes the conference is great. But There are certainly multiple teams that are cake walks for the good teams in the big Maybe but that assumes the better teams play their top game, if they do not then...not so much...IMO
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Post by stanfordvb on May 26, 2022 11:13:00 GMT -5
lmao. B1G homers are annoying. Yes the conference is great. But There are certainly multiple teams that are cake walks for the good teams in the big Yes but those multiple teams would likely win championships in most conferences. Also, I wouldn’t use the term cake walk. The line is closer than you think. I don't think Maryland, Michigan state, IU, Rutgers, or Iowa would win any of the P5 conferences
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Post by vergyltantor on May 26, 2022 11:14:45 GMT -5
Yes but those multiple teams would likely win championships in most conferences. Also, I wouldn’t use the term cake walk. The line is closer than you think. I don't think Maryland, Michigan state, IU, Rutgers, or Iowa would win any of the P5 conferences Maryland did win over Wisconsin and Michigan State beat Purdue last season.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 11:15:07 GMT -5
Yes but those multiple teams would likely win championships in most conferences. Also, I wouldn’t use the term cake walk. The line is closer than you think. I don't think Maryland, Michigan state, IU, Rutgers, or Iowa would win any of the P5 conferences they wouldn’t even have winning record in any power 5 conference
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Post by vergyltantor on May 26, 2022 11:22:14 GMT -5
I don't think Maryland, Michigan state, IU, Rutgers, or Iowa would win any of the P5 conferences they wouldn’t even have winning record in any power 5 conference Maryland and Northwestern were only 3 games below .500 in conference last season. It might be closer than you think.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 11:30:02 GMT -5
they wouldn’t even have winning record in any power 5 conference Maryland and Northwestern were only 3 games below .500 in conference last season. It might be closer than you think. definitely a slight exaggeration but they definitely wouldn’t do well at all except the big 12 which I hardly count as a power 5 lmaooo
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Post by stanfordvb on May 26, 2022 11:32:41 GMT -5
I don't think Maryland, Michigan state, IU, Rutgers, or Iowa would win any of the P5 conferences Maryland did win over Wisconsin and Michigan State beat Purdue last season. yes im not saying Maryland was bad but I don't think they would win the ACC, SEC, big 12, or the PAC because all of them have better teams and the post I replied to said that a lot of the 'cakewalks' in the B1G would win other conferences.
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Post by stevehorn on May 26, 2022 11:57:41 GMT -5
they wouldn’t even have winning record in any power 5 conference Maryland and Northwestern were only 3 games below .500 in conference last season. It might be closer than you think. Don't get carried away. Both finished 7-13 in conference play. Only Maryland defeated a team with a winning record in the conference. They each beat the other school once. The remainder of their victories were against teams that won no more than 4 games in conference play.
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Post by vergyltantor on May 26, 2022 12:04:59 GMT -5
Maryland did win over Wisconsin and Michigan State beat Purdue last season. yes im not saying Maryland was bad but I don't think they would win the ACC, SEC, big 12, or the PAC because all of them have better teams and the post I replied to said that a lot of the 'cakewalks' in the B1G would win other conferences. I probably should have posted as a new post instead of a reply. I was still thinking about the 'cakewalk' post, not yours.
Upsets do happen, as Wisconsin and Purdue could tell you. Going into a game with the attitude that it will be a cakewalk can be the fastest way to get beat. A few players having a bad night and a few bad calls the favorite can hand the underdog the belief that they can actually win the match. Once that happens, even the best teams can find themselves in a battle.
Would I bet that Rutgers will beat Wisconsin next season if I were a betting man? Of course not. Would I say there is absolutely no way it could happen? I wouldn't say that either.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 12:21:41 GMT -5
yes im not saying Maryland was bad but I don't think they would win the ACC, SEC, big 12, or the PAC because all of them have better teams and the post I replied to said that a lot of the 'cakewalks' in the B1G would win other conferences. I probably should have posted as a new post instead of a reply. I was still thinking about the 'cakewalk' post, not yours.
Upsets do happen, as Wisconsin and Purdue could tell you. Going into a game with the attitude that it will be a cakewalk can be the fastest way to get beat. A few players having a bad night and a few bad calls the favorite can hand the underdog the belief that they can actually win the match. Once that happens, even the best teams can find themselves in a battle.
Would I bet that Rutgers will beat Wisconsin next season if I were a betting man? Of course not. Would I say there is absolutely no way it could happen? I wouldn't say that either.
nobody said none of them could upset a good team. Sure maybe one of them beats a Kentucky, baylor , Stanford , or Louisville One time in a big upset. They still would preform terribly in conference overall. If you really think Maryland or northwestern would come close to winning a different power 5 conference you’re either delusional or a huge homer.
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Post by vergyltantor on May 26, 2022 12:24:30 GMT -5
I probably should have posted as a new post instead of a reply. I was still thinking about the 'cakewalk' post, not yours.
Upsets do happen, as Wisconsin and Purdue could tell you. Going into a game with the attitude that it will be a cakewalk can be the fastest way to get beat. A few players having a bad night and a few bad calls the favorite can hand the underdog the belief that they can actually win the match. Once that happens, even the best teams can find themselves in a battle.
Would I bet that Rutgers will beat Wisconsin next season if I were a betting man? Of course not. Would I say there is absolutely no way it could happen? I wouldn't say that either.
nobody said none of them could upset a good team. Sure maybe one of them beats a Kentucky, baylor , Stanford , or Louisville One time in a big upset. They still would preform terribly in conference overall. If you really think Maryland or northwestern would come close to winning a different power 5 conference you’re either delusional or a huge homer. I guess I just have a different definition of the term cakewalk.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 12:24:40 GMT -5
they wouldn’t even have winning record in any power 5 conference Maryland and Northwestern were only 3 games below .500 in conference last season. It might be closer than you think. 7-13 and part of those wins are because all the bad teams have to play each other so somebody HAS to get a win to add to that tally
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Post by vergyltantor on May 26, 2022 12:33:15 GMT -5
Maryland and Northwestern were only 3 games below .500 in conference last season. It might be closer than you think. 7-13 and part of those wins are because all the bad teams have to play each other so somebody HAS to get a win to add to that tally Replace Penn State, Michigan, and Illinois with West Virginia, Iowa State and Kansas and three more wins are possible.
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Post by robtearle on May 26, 2022 12:54:30 GMT -5
7-13 and part of those wins are because all the bad teams have to play each other so somebody HAS to get a win to add to that tally Replace Penn State, Michigan, and Illinois with West Virginia, Iowa State and Kansas and three more wins are possible. The original 'question' wasn't whether they could win another conference, or go .500 etc; it was whether a good team can "take the night off' against them. And I gave a real world, actual example where a Big Ten championship team tried to give the 'night off' to its star player versus a team that did not win a single conference match and had only won five sets in 19 other matches that season. And there was an *excellent* chance that if the star player had not come in to play mid-match, the championship team would have lost to the team that had not won a match. A real world example of the danger of "taking a night off" in the Big Ten. FWIW...
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