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Post by texashorns on Sept 28, 2022 9:36:24 GMT -5
I’ve heard it from multiple sources now too. It happened. lol as if I even care who your sources are-your original one was on Volleytalk. and to go along with it, why does it matter? the only reason y'all are blowing this up to be WAY MORE than it needs to be is because it's Nebraska. Find a new obsession. they're grown adults. if it happened and it ended Jaylen's engagement-that sucks for her and I feel for her. But it's not like it's illegal. Let's not act like other coaching staffs don't have significant others. these are people's lives. does it really make everyone feel better to blow this stuff up? I mean, where does it get y'all? If it had happened at another top program everyone would do the same just saying.
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Post by eazy on Sept 28, 2022 9:38:02 GMT -5
Which begs the question, did this play out around the team as the poster suggests? I am guessing the team already knows about this. Which means Cook has known / knows about this and choose to sweep it under the rug. It is a big risk to sweep it under the rug as the danger would be for this news to break out at a critical time of the season. Or he hoped, this news makes it through the end of the season Jaylen/Kelly gets a job somewhere else and this all goes away. Either way the bigger question becomes who has the Cojones to ask Cook about it at the next presser? What if that poster IS Cook and he wanted to get it out here specifically on a random Tuesday so that it could be high VT drama for a few days when there are no pressers, and hopefully everyone forgets about it once matches start this week/weekend? COOKiesncream out here playing 3D chess...
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Post by knapplc on Sept 28, 2022 9:50:59 GMT -5
lol as if I even care who your sources are-your original one was on Volleytalk. and to go along with it, why does it matter? the only reason y'all are blowing this up to be WAY MORE than it needs to be is because it's Nebraska. Find a new obsession. they're grown adults. if it happened and it ended Jaylen's engagement-that sucks for her and I feel for her. But it's not like it's illegal. Let's not act like other coaching staffs don't have significant others. these are people's lives. does it really make everyone feel better to blow this stuff up? I mean, where does it get y'all? If it had happened at another top program everyone would do the same just saying. Like reveling in the gossip about an asst. coach's marriage.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 28, 2022 10:02:09 GMT -5
If it had happened at another top program everyone would do the same just saying. Like reveling in the gossip about an asst. coach's marriage. It's tough to distinguish between reveling and actual concern, whether for the individuals involved, the program in general, or the fan's interest in the event not happening, even though it did. But yeah, there was a lot of reveling by outside parties on the board, for sure. To me it just feels like God is a huge fan of Volleytalk having plenty of activity. He/She has managed to create a tremendous amount of drama - it feels like a decade's worth - surrounding the two biggest and most active fan bases on the site, in one season. And we're not even halfway through the season, yet. The odds are against it, but I just can't even imagine what a title match between Nebraska and Texas would be like on this board this year. It would be Days of Our Lives/Survivor/Battle Royale/Rocky II/Housewives all thrown together.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 28, 2022 10:16:36 GMT -5
How and why is a personal matter between two consenting adults a bad reflection on Nebraska or the athletic department? Are you suggesting the state of Nebraska, its people, the UNL athletic department, John Cook, Lindsey Peterson, our local media, the boosters, and/or nationwide fanbase coerced two adults, Kelly and Jaylen, to make a lawful, mutual, and personal decision with which you disagree? If any athletic department has a bad look in the B1G for illegal sexual activities (read: sex crimes), it would be Penn State and Michigan State. Actually, if there’s any coercion here, it’s going to be a result of your sensationalist post, which is unfortunately going to raise enough ire to force them to release public statements. Like, was this the purpose of your post? To force two consenting adults to release public apologies, enter rehab, pay a fine, and then provide community service? Are you using Volleytalk to push your boomer-style, pro-monogamy, and hetero-normative values? 🤮 I mean, how do you know Jaylen and Kelly weren’t in open relationships with their partners and moved on with their lives in new directions? What if either or both of their partners were cucks? Matters of affairs between consenting adults in the public spotlight should always remain off the table for discussion. (Truly, IDGAF about Clinton and Trump’s sex lives; we can judge their presidencies independent of their affairs.) I really hope neither Kelly nor Jaylen feels forced or compelled to make any kind of public statement as a result of your post. Staying mum will allow all parties to move forward with their lives in private and with dignity (unless they’re cucks). Your post solidified why I hardly check out this website anymore bc of the messiness and extraness—unless I get texts about something actually newsworthy on here about other programs. 😂😂 But your post is 🗑. Why is a personal matter: because many company’s, teams, universities have guidelines/rules on this kind of , what you called orivate matters, see Boston Celtics, 1996 Womens Olympic Team, example, example,example….. Sorry dude/dudette, but there are alot of reporting services who would call this news worthy! So have have hired hands here who read all the info and text you when something is worthy of your response! Hmmm i personally just move on when something is amiss but thats its like being mad at television just switch the channel. And your rant did more to keep it alive and moving: ignoring usually gets it lost faster: And what is boomer morality: and what is a cuck??? What news services do you believe would find this news “worthy”?
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Post by rjaege on Sept 28, 2022 10:17:33 GMT -5
It's likely this happened. But the notion that there's some sort of coverup is complete conjecture. Anyone who thinks that has never had to manage a staff. Unless they broke rules about employee relationships (which usually only hold for superior/subordinate relationships), the expectation that there's a public announcement about it or even some sort of public punishment is idiotic. Any manager would meet with the two parties privately, make sure it's clear that they continue their jobs in a professional manner, and move on. Even if there's some sort of punishment, it's done privately. It's no on else's business what that conversation is or what the punishment might be. I hear complaints all the time from staff when things are handled in private. They think there should be some public flogging which would be highly inappropriate. Often the private consequences will ultimately lead to people leaving but that's not for the public, or even the other employees to know about. In this case, whatever is handled should be handled in private and I highly doubt even the players will know what actually happened behind the closed doors of the office. Handling issues in appropriately in private is not a cover-up. Well said but i would add that anyone coaching a diverse group should have guidelines and penalty’s for operating outside guidelines: my thinking is that fraternizing between staff would be not tolerated. And would be reason to remove one or both from the staff for violating said standards. Trying to prohibit relationships between consenting adult employees is a formula for failure. Yes it is often disruptive, but these things happen. Firing one is typically not lawful based on equal opportunity laws, and firing both possibly not lawful either. Also firing both is often more disruptive than not firing either. Especially when no workplace harassment is involved. Is it disruptive? Sometimes, depending upon circumstance. Just another human nature thing we a have to co-exist with.
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Post by reader on Sept 28, 2022 10:28:51 GMT -5
IF it can or does affect the team's prep work then it becomes news, at least within the small world of college VB news. It'll likely blow over just as the similar mess in TX did. (But it's an uncomfortable week or three until it does.)
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Post by potato518 on Sept 28, 2022 10:30:15 GMT -5
I was telling my friend who doesn’t know anything about the volleyball world about this and I showed him Jaylen‘s Instagram and in his bio it says “Poly” because he’s Polynesian but my friend was like “his bio says he’s polyamorous so what’s the big deal” 🤣😭😭😭
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Post by boxcariii on Sept 28, 2022 10:56:17 GMT -5
It's likely this happened. But the notion that there's some sort of coverup is complete conjecture. Anyone who thinks that has never had to manage a staff. Unless they broke rules about employee relationships (which usually only hold for superior/subordinate relationships), the expectation that there's a public announcement about it or even some sort of public punishment is idiotic. Any manager would meet with the two parties privately, make sure it's clear that they continue their jobs in a professional manner, and move on. Even if there's some sort of punishment, it's done privately. It's no on else's business what that conversation is or what the punishment might be. I hear complaints all the time from staff when things are handled in private. They think there should be some public flogging which would be highly inappropriate. Often the private consequences will ultimately lead to people leaving but that's not for the public, or even the other employees to know about. In this case, whatever is handled should be handled in private and I highly doubt even the players will know what actually happened behind the closed doors of the office. Handling issues in appropriately in private is not a cover-up. Well said but i would add that anyone coaching a diverse group should have guidelines and penalty’s for operating outside guidelines: my thinking is that fraternizing between staff would be not tolerated. And would be reason to remove one or both from the staff for violating said standards. But Nebraska likes paying buyouts rather than well deserved "with cause" dismissals. Both my examples come from football, but Pelini's public rant a year before his actual dismissal should have resulted in a "with cause" dismissal as a violation of a Code of Conduct clause I'm sure was in his contract. Same with Frost if he was consistently late to practice/missed meetings etc. Rather than save the millions for the next coach, they issue the buyout (it's easier of course, but easier isn't always what's right). Also, them being removed confirms the rumors at this point. Hard to say what's correct in personal, not personnel matters.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 28, 2022 11:00:35 GMT -5
I was telling my friend who doesn’t know anything about the volleyball world about this and I showed him Jaylen‘s Instagram and in his bio it says “Poly” because he’s Polynesian but my friend was like “his bio says he’s polyamorous so what’s the big deal” 🤣😭😭😭 3000&late
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Post by rjaege on Sept 28, 2022 11:20:49 GMT -5
IF it can or does affect the team's prep work then it becomes news, at least within the small world of college VB news. It'll likely blow over just as the similar mess in TX did. (But it's an uncomfortable week or three until it does.) Suspect and hope the most disruptive part is past.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 28, 2022 11:51:24 GMT -5
IF it can or does affect the team's prep work then it becomes news, at least within the small world of college VB news. It'll likely blow over just as the similar mess in TX did. (But it's an uncomfortable week or three until it does.) Suspect and hope the most disruptive part is past. Assuming this is true, unless there was a conflict between the two of them, it probably isn’t disruptive at all for players. 20 yr olds move from drama to drama pretty darn quick.
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Post by knapplc on Sept 28, 2022 12:15:02 GMT -5
Suspect and hope the most disruptive part is past. Assuming this is true, unless there was a conflict between the two of them, it probably isn’t disruptive at all for players. 20 yr olds move from drama to drama pretty darn quick. And most of them have S/O's, and have gone through breakups or other relationship drama. They aren't snowflakes like the rumor monger wants to insinuate.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 28, 2022 12:19:12 GMT -5
Assuming this is true, unless there was a conflict between the two of them, it probably isn’t disruptive at all for players. 20 yr olds move from drama to drama pretty darn quick. And most of them have S/O's, and have gone through breakups or other relationship drama. They aren't snowflakes like the rumor monger wants to insinuate. IDK, I seem to recall a pretty high-profile transfer about 13 years ago in large part due to being upset with a coaching staff affair . . . . .
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Post by radioactiveman on Sept 28, 2022 12:22:18 GMT -5
It's likely this happened. But the notion that there's some sort of coverup is complete conjecture. Anyone who thinks that has never had to manage a staff. Unless they broke rules about employee relationships (which usually only hold for superior/subordinate relationships), the expectation that there's a public announcement about it or even some sort of public punishment is idiotic. Any manager would meet with the two parties privately, make sure it's clear that they continue their jobs in a professional manner, and move on. Even if there's some sort of punishment, it's done privately. It's no on else's business what that conversation is or what the punishment might be. I hear complaints all the time from staff when things are handled in private. They think there should be some public flogging which would be highly inappropriate. Often the private consequences will ultimately lead to people leaving but that's not for the public, or even the other employees to know about. In this case, whatever is handled should be handled in private and I highly doubt even the players will know what actually happened behind the closed doors of the office. Handling issues in appropriately in private is not a cover-up. Well said but i would add that anyone coaching a diverse group should have guidelines and penalty’s for operating outside guidelines: my thinking is that fraternizing between staff would be not tolerated. And would be reason to remove one or both from the staff for violating said standards. Only if that's part of employee standards a priori. That's why companies have an employee handbook. To lay out the rules of this type of thing. Many companies only have an issues if it's a superior/subordinate relationship. Both Reyes and Hunter are assistent coaches and neither reports directly to the other. It's much less likely (but no impossible) that it's forbidden when it's two people at equivalent levels. And if you try to set those standards after the fact and then remove someone for violating standards"that were never explicitly stated up front, that's grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit.
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