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Post by willswims117 on Oct 10, 2022 19:24:56 GMT -5
With Orr considerably improving in the last match, will the 6-2 stay once Hames returns? People seem to feel as if Orr improving is a sign that an Orr 5-1 is coming, however I see Cook taking the 6-2 the whole way this year. I think that the determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Batenhorst. Seeing specs of her terminal potential against Michigan is a good sign, signaling that the 6-2 is probably here to stay.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 10, 2022 19:34:05 GMT -5
With Orr considerably improving in the last match, will the 6-2 stay once Hames returns? People seem to feel as if Orr improving is a sign that an Orr 5-1 is coming, however I see Cook taking the 6-2 the whole way this year. I think that the determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Batenhorst. Seeing specs of her terminal potential against Michigan is a good sign, signaling that the 6-2 is probably here to stay. Well first of all it was one match, she would most likely have to prove it over several matches, and that isn’t even taking into account Hames could be back. Who knows? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 20:41:07 GMT -5
Is Orr improving? I’m not seeing that. Something dies not seem right with her, physically. she showed improvement during the Michigan match. That was definitely her best match all season. |
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Post by milkmandan on Oct 10, 2022 20:46:55 GMT -5
With Orr considerably improving in the last match, will the 6-2 stay once Hames returns? People seem to feel as if Orr improving is a sign that an Orr 5-1 is coming, however I see Cook taking the 6-2 the whole way this year. I think that the determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Batenhorst. Seeing specs of her terminal potential against Michigan is a good sign, signaling that the 6-2 is probably here to stay. The determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Orr. If she's average or better, it's a Hames-Orr 6-2. If she's below average, it's a Hames 5-1. |
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Post by huskernkc on Oct 10, 2022 20:58:00 GMT -5
With Orr considerably improving in the last match, will the 6-2 stay once Hames returns? People seem to feel as if Orr improving is a sign that an Orr 5-1 is coming, however I see Cook taking the 6-2 the whole way this year. I think that the determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Batenhorst. Seeing specs of her terminal potential against Michigan is a good sign, signaling that the 6-2 is probably here to stay. The determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Orr. If she's average or better, it's a Hames-Orr 6-2. If she's below average, it's a Hames 5-1. In mvho, orr is not agile enough to do the 5-1, especially if the first hit makes her run around like hames has had to do for 4 years |
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Post by smartcookie on Oct 10, 2022 21:26:21 GMT -5
With Orr considerably improving in the last match, will the 6-2 stay once Hames returns? People seem to feel as if Orr improving is a sign that an Orr 5-1 is coming, however I see Cook taking the 6-2 the whole way this year. I think that the determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Batenhorst. Seeing specs of her terminal potential against Michigan is a good sign, signaling that the 6-2 is probably here to stay. Well first of all it was one match, she would most likely have to prove it over several matches, and that isn’t even taking into account Hames could be back. Who knows? 100% agree with this. Orr was good in the Michigan match but was pretty awful against Maryland less than a week prior. I hope she'll continue to improve match-to-match and become more consistently good, but a sample size of one good game is way too small to conclude if she's even in the top 2 once Hames comes back. For Orr to be in 5-1 conversations she needs to match or outplay Hames. I'm also curious about what will happen with Batenhorst vs. Mendelson once Allick returns. |
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Post by photos1 on Oct 10, 2022 21:36:20 GMT -5
The determining person on if the 6-2 stays is Orr. If she's average or better, it's a Hames-Orr 6-2. If she's below average, it's a Hames 5-1. In mvho, orr is not agile enough to do the 5-1, especially if the first hit makes her run around like hames has had to do for 4 years Disagree. Orr is plenty “agile”-that has not been her problem. She may not be as fleet a foot as Hames-few are, but in a 5-1 she is superior as a blocker and her touch on the ball and placement have always been elite, at least before her ACL injury. Coming back from this injury is hard, not all return as they were. The question is, will she get back? That’s the question, not her agility. I am glad Orr was much better against Michigan, but it was one match, and even in that match she had at least 4 touches that could have been called doubles. (If they had, this would be a different conversation) The real truth is, Nebraska as a team and individuals are markedly improved from where they were a month ago. Allick is a real presence, Hord is settling in, Kubik is touching on being an elite six-rotation OH, blocking is as good as it has been in a decade, Rodriquez is a better player than she was a year ago, and since conference began serving is back to being a weapon. The only thing that will prevent this team from making it to Omaha is the setting. That answer isn’t even close to being answered yet, but when it is, Orr’s agility won’t be a factor. imo. We’ll see how it goes 🏐 |
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Post by viqueen10s on Oct 11, 2022 9:54:48 GMT -5
Everyone also has to consider that we don’t know what Hames injury truly is and if it could continue to be an issue if and when she does return. If she’s not 100% she also may not be an option to run a 5-1 so while they have been practicing a 5-1 some, do you abandon the 6-2 knowing it (5-1) could hinge on Orr and Hames being healthy? Evans has done a good job, but there is a reason she hasn’t gotten the starting role in either the 6-2 or 5-1. Love the kid, but she isn’t at the same level as Hames or Orr or we’d already have seen the switch IMO.
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Post by radioactiveman on Oct 11, 2022 11:40:45 GMT -5
Cook has credited the 6-2 in multiple interviews for the Huskers having the #1 efficiency defense in the country. He's gushed about how many soft blocks and blocks that are dug that this lineup gets that don't show up on the stat line. He's not going away from the 6-2 this year unless something else crazy happens.
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Post by dodger on Oct 11, 2022 12:43:55 GMT -5
In mvho, orr is not agile enough to do the 5-1, especially if the first hit makes her run around like hames has had to do for 4 years Disagree. Orr is plenty “agile”-that has not been her problem. She may not be as fleet a foot as Hames-few are, but in a 5-1 she is superior as a blocker and her touch on the ball and placement have always been elite, at least before her ACL injury. Coming back from this injury is hard, not all return as they were. The question is, will she get back? That’s the question, not her agility. I am glad Orr was much better against Michigan, but it was one match, and even in that match she had at least 4 touches that could have been called doubles. (If they had, this would be a different conversation) The real truth is, Nebraska as a team and individuals are markedly improved from where they were a month ago. Allick is a real presence, Hord is settling in, Kubik is touching on being an elite six-rotation OH, blocking is as good as it has been in a decade, Rodriquez is a better player than she was a year ago, and since conference began serving is back to being a weapon. The only thing that will prevent this team from making it to Omaha is the setting. That answer isn’t even close to being answered yet, but when it is, Orr’s agility won’t be a factor. imo. We’ll see how it goes 🏐 Your right on point: that returning from acl is her big obstacle; not all players are the same and some take longer to het their full confidence back: but the other poster who used term “agility” it is in essence the same comment. She has at times looked uncomfortable moving quickly and smoothly on all balls: i evaluate her hesitancy, doubles, lack agility all to her acl recovery and confidence. Player's with that injury each have their own time table for complete recovery to past levels of play. (If ever) |
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Post by ted_heise on Oct 11, 2022 12:53:45 GMT -5
I just posted a podcast with Lindsay Wischmeier Peterson and John Baylor. They talk about several things including the liberos who have played for Nebraska, begining with Lindsay. Baylor shared a story about Dani Busboom I was not of aware of. She was not John's first choice to move to the libero position but he was unable to persuade someone else to do it. The fact that Dani did take it on and Nebraska went on to win a National Championship with her in the libero position is the rest of the story. Lindsay has been part of the staff since 2006 so she has great insight into the wonderful liberos who have played at Nebraska. She was also my last recruit in a class that included Laura Pilakowski, Amber Holmquist and Greicaly Cepero. If you listen to the podcast please share it with others. You can always find them at terry pettit.com Thank you. terrypettit.com/lindsay-wischmeier-peterson-john-baylor-on-all-things-libero/*Really* enjoyed this discussion, lots of great discussion. Loved the observations from Lindsay. The comment about Texas being a team that loves to throw the ball may get some complaints, but it’s not wrong. Especially liked the related note about impact of targeting the setter and the stats from the 2021 NCAA championship. Thanks for posting this, Coach! |
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Post by knapplc on Oct 11, 2022 15:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by terryjpettit on Oct 11, 2022 15:14:29 GMT -5
Thank you. I appreciate Husker fans checking out the podcast with Lindsay and John. If you go to terrypettit.com there are 30 plus podcasts, most of them volleyball related and many of them with Huskers or former Huskers.
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Post by andrewwmic on Oct 11, 2022 18:37:26 GMT -5
Hames did a full practice today 🙏🏼
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Post by ted_heise on Oct 11, 2022 18:50:39 GMT -5
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