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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 19:10:02 GMT -5
Shef has a real interesting situation with his setters. It’s good. He has two decent setters. They have different strengths outside of setting. One we know is a winner and great in floor defense. The other is a larger presence at the net, but less of a known quantity setting in real matches. That means there are lots of different scenarios to play with. My guess is that they drift to a 6-2 because neither quite has the experience to set a 5-1 as well as 5th year Hilley. Hillary’s athleticism and experience cannot be underestimated. But that is a only a guess. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 9, 2022 19:12:22 GMT -5
Shef has a real interesting situation with his setters. It’s good. He has two decent setters. They have different strengths outside of setting. One we know is a winner and great in floor defense. The other is a larger presence at the net, but less of a known quantity setting in real matches. That means there are lots of different scenarios to play with. My guess is that they drift to a 6-2 because neither quite has the experience to set a 5-1 as well as 5th year Hilley. Hillary’s athleticism and experience cannot be underestimated. But that is a only a guess. Yes, I'm gonna beat that drum one more time: MJ's bigger presence does them no good in a 6-2. But if they play a 5-2 with MJ setting across the front, then her size becomes a factor. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 19:14:16 GMT -5
Since the addition of Bramschreiber, I’m not worried about libero. You have three competent people at that position now. One will step up. You have Orzol passing beside them, and maybe Franklin, who was a more dependable passer than Loberg last year. The only real question is how much the loss of Hilley affects the diversity and efficiency of the offense. Setter is the position I am really looking forward to. I would like to see Izzy do some setting but probably not much since she is the shorter player of the two. Izzy is probably my favorite now that Hilley is gone. I was hoping she would get some extended time in the backrow but with the Baylor libero we have the libero/DS positions well stocked. Best chance to see Izzy extended play is the 6-2 I think. We won't be as dynamic without Hilley at first but we also won't have 2 super seniors in the back row extending points as consistently either. Its basically a pick-em libero or setter as both will be question marks. But Barnes kind of put us over the top essentially turning entire matches around with her stellar play. She will in my opinion be the hardest to replace ultimately. |
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Post by Kearney Kingston on Jul 9, 2022 19:14:36 GMT -5
Like I said - a real interesting situation.
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Post by robtearle on Jul 9, 2022 19:18:30 GMT -5
Setter is the position I am really looking forward to. I would like to see Izzy do some setting but probably not much since she is the shorter player of the two. Izzy is probably my favorite now that Hilley is gone. Wouldn't the fact that MJ set that match against Minnesota in the spring 2021 season - even though Izzy was available, and played - indicate that MJ is more likely the favorite? |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 19:22:25 GMT -5
Izzy is probably my favorite now that Hilley is gone. Wouldn't the fact that MJ set that match against Minnesota in the spring 2021 season - even though Izzy was available, and played - indicate that MJ is more likely the favorite? That’s how I read it. But things change with surrounding personnel. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 19:24:00 GMT -5
Honestly, I think we’ll be fine at libero. We have so many passing and d options that I think they will find a way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 19:24:19 GMT -5
Izzy is probably my favorite now that Hilley is gone. Wouldn't the fact that MJ set that match against Minnesota in the spring 2021 season - even though Izzy was available, and played - indicate that MJ is more likely the favorite? I had stated her best chance at playing time is the 6-2 I thought that would have implied that I had MJ as the preferred setter if they run a 5-1. I should have been more clear on that. What I meant about Izzy is that she is my favorite player on the team. Atttitiude, intangibles, killer serve, etc. |
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Post by Kearney Kingston on Jul 9, 2022 19:25:32 GMT -5
So it’s two full years before another setter arrives - and she will be a freshman at that point?
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 19:25:38 GMT -5
Like I said - a real interesting situation. Interesting in the midwestern sense? Or in the normal sense? The latter I agree with. The former not so much. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 9, 2022 19:29:11 GMT -5
Wouldn't the fact that MJ set that match against Minnesota in the spring 2021 season - even though Izzy was available, and played - indicate that MJ is more likely the favorite? I had stated her best chance at playing time is the 6-2 I thought that would have implied that I had MJ as the preferred setter if they run a 5-1. I should have more clear on that. What I meant about Izzy is that she is my favorite player on the team. Atttitiude, intangibles, killer serve, etc. I misread "my favorite" for "the favorite". Picking my favorite like that would be like asking a parent which is their favorite child. Can't be done. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 19:29:49 GMT -5
It’s good. He has two decent setters. They have different strengths outside of setting. One we know is a winner and great in floor defense. The other is a larger presence at the net, but less of a known quantity setting in real matches. That means there are lots of different scenarios to play with. My guess is that they drift to a 6-2 because neither quite has the experience to set a 5-1 as well as 5th year Hilley. Hillary’s athleticism and experience cannot be underestimated. But that is a only a guess. Yes, I'm gonna beat that drum one more time: MJ's bigger presence does them no good in a 6-2. But if they play a 5-2 with MJ setting across the front, then her size becomes a factor. They have other personnel that could provide a bigger block than would be provided by MJ. She’s only big as far as a setter is concerned. That said, I don’t really know how good a block she provides. |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 9, 2022 19:30:38 GMT -5
So it’s two full years before another setter arrives - and she will be a freshman at that point? MJ will still be eligible in 2024 (COVID). |
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Post by robtearle on Jul 9, 2022 19:39:31 GMT -5
Yes, I'm gonna beat that drum one more time: MJ's bigger presence does them no good in a 6-2. But if they play a 5-2 with MJ setting across the front, then her size becomes a factor. They have other personnel that could provide a bigger block than would be provided by MJ. She’s only big as far as a setter is concerned. That said, I don’t really know how good a block she provides. That confuses me. You brought up her "bigger presence at the net". Unless they run a 5-2, then for that presence to matter, she's the 5-1 setter, and Izzy is probably back to only a serving specialist. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Jul 9, 2022 20:50:46 GMT -5
They have other personnel that could provide a bigger block than would be provided by MJ. She’s only big as far as a setter is concerned. That said, I don’t really know how good a block she provides. That confuses me. You brought up her "bigger presence at the net". Unless they run a 5-2, then for that presence to matter, she's the 5-1 setter, and Izzy is probably back to only a serving specialist. Hammill sets in back row, and someone else hits/blocks for her in front row. Technique aside, chances are that the person who hits/blocks for her in the front row will provide a bigger block because most of them are… well, bigger. The only system Hammill’s blocking presence gives her a notable advantage over Ashburn is in the 5-1, where she is clearly a bigger block than Ashburn playing the same position. If they go with that system, she has an advantage, all else being equal. That’s what I have been presuming will happen based on past preferences of the coaching staff. However, with the passing options available to the badgers, they could run a 6-2 system where Hammill and Ashburn both set from the back row. All that said, we haven’t seen enough of either of them to know how this plays out. |
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