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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 5, 2022 18:50:21 GMT -5
Wisconsin voilaballers Wisconsin 23-5 wcd2001 Wisconsin - 23-5 ndodge Wisconsin 21-7 taxidea Wisconsin 25-3 JT Wisconsin 25-3 greatlakesvballer Wisconsin 25-3 Sharky Wisconsin 24-4 SportyBucky Wisconsin 24-4 wiscvball Wisconsin 25-3 rainbowbadger - Wisconsin - 23-5 overdanet80. Wisconsin 25-3 buckyupbuttercup Wisconsin 24-4 Last year I was right in my UW prediction. This year I hope not to be. I guess I was being pessimistic and I also just did a really really quick scan down their schedule -- thought that they might slip here and there getting in sync and then slip here and there in tough conference road matches. But I think 7 was too many, I'd probably say 5 losses if I had to do it again. Actually, I think I will go change my vote. Seven losses would mean our setting situation has had a rough go of it. Assuming we run a 5-1 and Hammill wins the job I feel the following. Hammill arrived early so she had offseason spring 2020 with Hilley, practice in Aug 2020, and 1 and 3/4 seasons in 2021. Hilley had a few months with Carlini in Spring Semester of 2017. Hammill could very well be significantly ahead of where Hilley was as a freshman. A 2022 Hammill that is at 2/3 to 3/4 of the 2021-FALL Hilley edition is gonna help do some major damage especially with all the weapons at her disposal.
Remember in the last two offseasons we added FOUR liberos/defensive specialists and ZERO setters to our current squad.
I think Coach Sheffield feels very confident in the immediate and near term futures in regards to the setter position.
Hammill was not an early enrollee. The only 2020 player who came early was Robinson. Hammill arrived in the summer. She did get to train with Syd for about a year and a half. Which is good.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 5, 2022 18:52:42 GMT -5
I’m not sure Wisconsin has adequate serve-receive to utilize 9 or 10 subs per match in the setter / opposite positions. If both OHs receive serve in the 6-2, they’d actually be using fewer subs per 6 rotations than in the 5-1 last year. However, I suspect that they will sub Franklin for a DS in the BR early in sets or if the passing gets wonky. That would provide the added ball control to use all the hitting options, which is the point of a 6-2. If you don’t do that, the lack of connection between setter and hitters that comes from having two different setters may offset the advantage of having more attack options since you are not really using them. Subbing for the two setters and Franklin would produce a sub situation like last year where subs every full 6 rotations were Demps/Smrek, Loberg/Civita and Ashburn as serving sub. That said, I think you want a decent back row attack option to get full advantage of the 6-2. Subbing Franklin in BR would reduce that advantage. That and the fact that Demps may not be as effective hitting out of the front or blocking. I know that they won’t make the decision in some a priori way. They will see which scores the most points relative to opposition. I don’t really care which they use as long as it works best. That’s why I think they will drop more than a few sets in preseason and early in B1G play. They will need to experiment in actual matches because they can’t tell in practice.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 5, 2022 19:12:23 GMT -5
Wisconsin voilaballers Wisconsin 23-5 wcd2001 Wisconsin - 23-5 ndodge Wisconsin 21-7 taxidea Wisconsin 25-3 JT Wisconsin 25-3 greatlakesvballer Wisconsin 25-3 Sharky Wisconsin 24-4 SportyBucky Wisconsin 24-4 wiscvball Wisconsin 25-3 rainbowbadger - Wisconsin - 23-5 overdanet80. Wisconsin 25-3 buckyupbuttercup Wisconsin 24-4 Last year I was right in my UW prediction. This year I hope not to be. I guess I was being pessimistic and I also just did a really really quick scan down their schedule -- thought that they might slip here and there getting in sync and then slip here and there in tough conference road matches. But I think 7 was too many, I'd probably say 5 losses if I had to do it again. Actually, I think I will go change my vote. I think your guess is reasonable. I can easily see 5 losses in the B1G alone. I don’t think that will be unique to the badgers either. We could see a 4 or 5 loss B1G champion this year. However, I need to learn more about the opposition and see them in scrimmage to a clearer sense. Things change so much with the portal these days and I can’t keep track.
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 6, 2022 1:09:47 GMT -5
Thanks, both. I guess I kinda knew that, but maybe wasn’t appreciating that players could sub in/out both halves? The most obvious half-rotation sub situation is when the libero comes out while the "serving middle" serves; one middle must serve, while the other middle's spot in the overall rotation can be served by the libero. So for example, last season when Barnes was serving she was (usually) subbed in at Robinson's spot, while Barnes could not serve while in Rettke's spot. Most of the time Izzy would sub in to serve for Rettke, and the Barnes would go back in for the rest of "Rettke's" turn across the back row. (Occasionally Rettke would serve herself, before Barnes came back in.) Either way, Izzy or Rettke was back right for the serving half-rotation before Barnes came in for the serve-receive half-rotation. By rule, the most a libero can be on the court in five and a half of the six rotations, with the serving middle in for the other half-rotation. That's kind of a complex example - since normally the libero replacing either middle blocker doesn't involve any official substitutions at all. Technically speaking, the substitutions involved in the Rettke/Ashburn/Barnes dance involved exactly two: 1. Ashburn in for Rettke for the serving half of rotation 6. 2. Rettke in for Ashburn for the serve-receive half of rotation 6 (which, then Rettke was immediately replaced by the libero Barnes but that's not a sub) This happens all the time, in all positions, when serving specialists come in for a half rotation. The part that blows my mind is when a serving specialist comes in and the setter goes out and isn't replaced by another setter.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 6, 2022 7:09:20 GMT -5
The most obvious half-rotation sub situation is when the libero comes out while the "serving middle" serves; one middle must serve, while the other middle's spot in the overall rotation can be served by the libero. So for example, last season when Barnes was serving she was (usually) subbed in at Robinson's spot, while Barnes could not serve while in Rettke's spot. Most of the time Izzy would sub in to serve for Rettke, and the Barnes would go back in for the rest of "Rettke's" turn across the back row. (Occasionally Rettke would serve herself, before Barnes came back in.) Either way, Izzy or Rettke was back right for the serving half-rotation before Barnes came in for the serve-receive half-rotation. By rule, the most a libero can be on the court in five and a half of the six rotations, with the serving middle in for the other half-rotation. That's kind of a complex example - since normally the libero replacing either middle blocker doesn't involve any official substitutions at all. Technically speaking, the substitutions involved in the Rettke/Ashburn/Barnes dance involved exactly two: 1. Ashburn in for Rettke for the serving half of rotation 6. 2. Rettke in for Ashburn for the serve-receive half of rotation 6 (which, then Rettke was immediately replaced by the libero Barnes but that's not a sub) This happens all the time, in all positions, when serving specialists come in for a half rotation. The part that blows my mind is when a serving specialist comes in and the setter goes out and isn't replaced by another setter. Complicated, but familiar to 2021 Badger fans.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 6, 2022 16:11:52 GMT -5
When I think about it, it seems quite insane that they only get a little over two weeks to nail down all of the answers to these alternatives issues we've been talking about before the season begins for real.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Aug 6, 2022 17:30:56 GMT -5
When I think about it, it seems quite insane that they only get a little over two weeks to nail down all of the answers to these alternatives issues we've been talking about before the season begins for real. Still waiting on that lawsuit that the AVCA should file against the NCAA for summer women's volleyball practice time equivalency......
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Post by BOBšković on Aug 6, 2022 18:04:58 GMT -5
wait so I dont really follow Wisconsin that much but what is the ashburn vs hammill comp like. Is hammill head and sholders above ashburn for a 5-1?
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Post by mnbadger on Aug 6, 2022 19:32:28 GMT -5
wait so I dont really follow Wisconsin that much but what is the ashburn vs hammill comp like. Is hammill head and sholders above ashburn for a 5-1? The only data we have was the spring games, where it wasn't super clear. The Red v White is in a couple weeks, where we'll see the captains head to head setting the offense, which might answer more.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 6, 2022 22:41:31 GMT -5
wait so I dont really follow Wisconsin that much but what is the ashburn vs hammill comp like. Is hammill head and sholders above ashburn for a 5-1? The only data we have was the spring games, where it wasn't super clear. The Red v White is in a couple weeks, where we'll see the captains head to head setting the offense, which might answer more. In the spring of 2021 - the COVID 2020 season - Hilley was out for a match against Minnesota. Hamill played pretty much the whole match at setter with Ashburn as a serving sub.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 7, 2022 2:07:00 GMT -5
wait so I dont really follow Wisconsin that much but what is the ashburn vs hammill comp like. Is hammill head and sholders above ashburn for a 5-1? I think Hammill’s larger size gives her a clear advantage in a 5-1. If UW runs a 5-1 I would be surprised if she isn’t the setter. But Sheff seems sincere about possibly running a 6-2, and by all reports the difference between them as setters during Spring matches was not that large.
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Post by direstraits on Aug 7, 2022 19:05:34 GMT -5
Any word on season tickets?
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 7, 2022 19:15:54 GMT -5
We're supposed to hear tomorrow.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 7, 2022 20:49:04 GMT -5
We're supposed to hear tomorrow. Tuesday would be the traditional "hand deliver tickets" to a few season ticket holders. Do they still do that since COVID? And what do they deliver, a thumb drive with pdf files on it? :-) (If they come to my building, I'll be away working at the polls for the primary election.)
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 7, 2022 23:05:37 GMT -5
Sheff gettin salty about ncaa rules.
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