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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 15:58:36 GMT -5
Demps will not be relegated to the sidelines. Book it! Then either Hart or Crawford is dancing with Wrobel and Gregorski. Hart is going to get eased in. Middle is probably the most demanding position. We'll see if she makes it all the way to the starting lineup by season's end. I hope so, but I expect CC will start the year. It will then be her position to lose.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 16:02:43 GMT -5
Lauren Barnes was sidelined for Civita at one point. One match - Northern Illinois, IIRC - Civita was libero and Barnes was DS. Barnes was not "sidelined"; she played three rotations instead of 5 1/2 rotations. No Barnes was not sidelined, but Sheff himself has said that Civita was pushing Barnes for the libero spot. It was close. Civita started as libero at Rutgers after the Maryland fiasco, I believe. Then the 4th ACL happened just before the Minnesota match.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 16:31:20 GMT -5
--------- Adding, that might be the 'work-around' for GG's serve while she practices it. Bramschreiber gets libero, Franklin stays in to serve, but then subs out for GG when her serve turn is over. This is the solution I think we'll see with GGs serve, and why I now think she is DS and not libero at start of this year. I think they will sub in a DS for Franklin sometimes, but I don't think it will be all the time. They may start with a DS and just stop subbing for Franklin in BR when they start running short on subs (ala Loberg), or they may start sets leaving Franklin to play in the backrow and bring a DS in when/if her passing wobbles.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 16:36:28 GMT -5
GG feels very much like a Clark or Barnes type to me. Someone who is fierce as a defender, but starts out somewhat wobbly in passing. She needs time to claim the court and develop a steady platform. She has the added problem of needing to develop a serve she has never had to develop.
It's good we have Bramschreiber here, who strikes me more as a Civita/Dodge type of player. A bit lower key but pretty steady.
(Speaking of Dodge and her periodic overpasses, I wonder what inspired that posted speech by Sheff about trying too hard as a passer?)
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 22, 2022 16:45:36 GMT -5
Then either Hart or Crawford is dancing with Wrobel and Gregorski. Hart is going to get eased in. Middle is probably the most demanding position. We'll see if she makes it all the way to the starting lineup by season's end. I hope so, but I expect CC will start the year. It will then be her position to lose. Hart didn't just play in a match that matter zero to have her possibly eased in by the end of the season.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 16:49:26 GMT -5
Hart is going to get eased in. Middle is probably the most demanding position. We'll see if she makes it all the way to the starting lineup by season's end. I hope so, but I expect CC will start the year. It will then be her position to lose. Hart didn't just play in a match that matter zero to have her possibly eased in by the end of the season. I interpret it the opposite way. She played precisely because it doesn't matter much. She needs reps, but she is not going to have the timing, eyework and footwork down immediately after almost a year out. I could be wrong. I hope I am. But her playing in the scrimmage does not tell me anything.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 22, 2022 17:07:57 GMT -5
No word on Shanel still? First match four days away, still not on the roster page
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 22, 2022 17:33:53 GMT -5
Hart didn't just play in a match that matter zero to have her possibly eased in by the end of the season. I interpret it the opposite way. She played precisely because it doesn't matter much. She needs reps, but she is not going to have the timing, eyework and footwork down immediately after almost a year out. I could be wrong. I hope I am. But her playing in the scrimmage does not tell me anything. If she wasn't ready for the court, she wouldn't be playing. If she's healthy enough to play a match, she will likely play into form, not sit out. They may platoon but my money is she's in.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 22, 2022 17:38:05 GMT -5
I interpret it the opposite way. She played precisely because it doesn't matter much. She needs reps, but she is not going to have the timing, eyework and footwork down immediately after almost a year out. I could be wrong. I hope I am. But her playing in the scrimmage does not tell me anything. If she wasn't ready for the court, she wouldn't be playing. If she's healthy enough to play a match, she will likely play into form,not sit out. We could see the kind of 'everyone gets two sets' rotation at MB that I mentioned earlier, at least vs TCU, High Point, Campbell, etc.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 22, 2022 17:48:21 GMT -5
If she wasn't ready for the court, she wouldn't be playing. If she's healthy enough to play a match, she will likely play into form,not sit out. We could see the kind of 'everyone gets two sets' rotation at MB that I mentioned earlier, at least vs TCU, High Point, Campbell, etc. Perhaps in those matches but I'm guessing she plays when it matters up until when it really matters in the big ten.
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 22, 2022 18:23:14 GMT -5
--------- Adding, that might be the 'work-around' for GG's serve while she practices it. Bramschreiber gets libero, Franklin stays in to serve, but then subs out for GG when her serve turn is over. This is the solution I think we'll see with GGs serve, and why I now think she is DS and not libero at start of this year. I think they will sub in a DS for Franklin sometimes, but I don't think it will be all the time. They may start with a DS and just stop subbing for Franklin in BR when they start running short on subs (ala Loberg), or they may start sets leaving Franklin to play in the backrow and bring a DS in when/if her passing wobbles. IMO serve receive will be 90% more important than serving to determine the starting libero. It's also worth remembering that liberos don't have to serve - you can just have both middles serve (which, if you're in a 6-2 with Hart and CC at MB, would probably be what happens). On a different topic, I know this is sacrilege, but if we play 5-1 and both Frank the Tank and Orzol play 6 rotations, you can put in a DS for your opposite instead of putting Demps back there. It allows each OH to get a break passing (you could have only the back row OH pass with the DS and L or even have a two-person serve receive for those 3 rotations), gives more robust floor coverage, and at least in the rotations where Franklin is back row you still have a back row hitting option. I get that Demps back row hitting is really strong, but let's be honest, without Rettke drawing as much attention it won't be as strong.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 22, 2022 19:31:24 GMT -5
Let the Kohl Center Florida match profiteering begin!
Right this second on StubHub:
107 - row M, 12 tickets for sale, $106 per; row T, nine tickets, $94 per, row F, four tickets, $123 per
109 - row K, 14 tickets, $110 per
Each group of tickets are consecutive, contiguous groups of seats. Section 109 row K are seats 3-through-16, eg
Something else "sold one hour ago" in section 109 for $123.
Twelve tickets and nine tickets, etc is not just somebody who bought tickets and then remembered he had a wedding to go to. This is somebody with enough clout or "donor points' to get a hold of a dozen prime location tickets with the clear and express intent of reselling them for a profit.
And that stinks.
Call or email the Athletic Dept and let them know you think it stinks. I did so a number of times last season during the NCAA when really good seats were showing up on StubHub in bunches of 6, 10 12 tickets, while longtime season ticket holders - much longer than I - were being relegated to the corners.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 20:44:46 GMT -5
First off, the fact that tickets are valued so highly is a good sign for badger vball -- the product is in demand !! -- though it only takes one person willing to pay that value to recompense a prospector buying 8-12 tickets at a cut rate, so maybe not?
Because it stinks for people I know, the real question is what to do about it. That's a harder question. The only sure way to reduce profiteering is to raise prices to the point where no profit can be made on resells. How do you do that when the base of older ticket holders complains about ticket prices relative to historical benchmarks? Also, if you want to fill the Kohl center this one time, it's probably low on your list of priorities.
I go to lots of concerts. This is a problem for every form of entertainment, and no one has figured out a good solution yet. I'd like to hear options.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 22, 2022 20:54:36 GMT -5
First off, the fact that tickets are valued so highly is a good sign for badger vball -- the product is in demand !! -- though it only takes one person willing to pay that value to recompense a prospector buying 8-12 tickets at a cut rate, so maybe not? Because it stinks for people I know, the real question is what to do about it. That's a harder question. The only sure way to reduce profiteering is to raise prices to the point where no profit can be made on resells. How do you do that when the base of older ticket holders complains about ticket prices relative to historical benchmarks? Also, if you want to fill the Kohl center this one time, it's probably low on your list of priorities. I go to lots of concerts. This is a problem for every form of entertainment, and no one has figured out a good solution yet. I'd like to hear options. Just this month, there were stories in the paper about how the Athletic department denied renewal to football season ticket holders who were simply turning around and reselling the tickets to ticket brokers, etc. I posted a link here to a version of the story not behind the State Journal paywall. I'm certain that it contains really good quotes from Ath Dept people for this context like "we intend to sell tickets to people who intend to use them themselves", etc. And it isn't hard to know who is doing this. They clearly know who they sold section 109 row K seats to, etc ------------------- k1-factory.com/why-wisconsin-cut-off-more-than-100-football-season-ticket-holders-from-buying-again-in-2022-college-football/
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 22, 2022 21:08:10 GMT -5
First off, the fact that tickets are valued so highly is a good sign for badger vball -- the product is in demand !! -- though it only takes one person willing to pay that value to recompense a prospector buying 8-12 tickets at a cut rate, so maybe not? Because it stinks for people I know, the real question is what to do about it. That's a harder question. The only sure way to reduce profiteering is to raise prices to the point where no profit can be made on resells. How do you do that when the base of older ticket holders complains about ticket prices relative to historical benchmarks? Also, if you want to fill the Kohl center this one time, it's probably low on your list of priorities. I go to lots of concerts. This is a problem for every form of entertainment, and no one has figured out a good solution yet. I'd like to hear options. Just this month, there were stories in the paper about how the Athletic department denied renewal to season ticket holders who were simply turning around and reselling the tickets to ticket brokers, etc. I posted a link here to a version of the story not behind the State Journal paywall. I'm certain that it contains really good quotes from Ath Dept people for this context like "we intend to sell tickets to people who intend to use them themselves", etc. And it isn't hard to know who is doing this. They clearly know who they sold section 109 row K seats to, etc ------------------- k1-factory.com/why-wisconsin-cut-off-more-than-100-football-season-ticket-holders-from-buying-again-in-2022-college-football/The question is whether excluding those people will just let in others who do the same thing. That's what happens when events become targets for prospectors. The low initial price of the Kohl center tickets, and the ability to purchase lots of tickets, doesn't help.
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