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Post by skinny on Aug 29, 2022 13:34:43 GMT -5
I just wish there was a way where WI could get Franklin, Orzol, Wrobel, Smrek, Devyn and either GG or Shanel when she comes back, out on the court at the same time. Who needs a setter anyways Yes. In my strange dreams Orzol is a setter/libero combo plus occasional OH if thats possible, ha. Basically a multi position playing volleyball savant. Then if that was real thing it would get Wrobel on the court with Franklin. I want volleyball to be like the NBA is now where you just put out your five best and go. I know its not practical but It just bugs me that Wrobel isnt going to play for this team until her senior year. Shes too good.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 29, 2022 13:35:07 GMT -5
She didn't play middle. I think the last time she lined up at middle was Maryland. Offensively, they would have her with Devyn or Dana so that she ended up hitting quick sets in the middle. But she also hit at the right pin. And defensively she was a right-side opp. She didn't play middle. Whatever...obviously everyone knows that I suck on volleyball terms now. I want to see this "criss-cross" thing with Anna again, whether she is middle or RS. I saw none last week. They could still run that, they are choosing not too so far. Could be they are trying to get Smrek used to hitting on the pin, or maybe with the new setters they are getting the basics down before adding wrinkles.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 29, 2022 13:38:44 GMT -5
If you have cement feet, as you declare, how would you run the slide as a middle? And yes, she was a dancer. Again, let's be patient. She'll figure it out how to play without the Rettke distraction. Robinson struggled at first too last year. The dancer part was a joke. Except Smrek did dance, just like Rettke.
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Post by pull3 on Aug 29, 2022 13:41:51 GMT -5
Does it make sense to sub Demps into the back row on occasion for Franklin, once Hart is able to stay in for more than one set? I don’t think Demps is a better passer than Franklin. She’s been used as a defender mostly not in SR. I’m not sure Demps is an upgrade on Franklin attacking out of the BR. Franklin is pretty comfortable there. Neither of them have Rettke pulling blockers anymore. Don't sleep on Demps. From I have seen last season, Demps has an excellent reaction time, thus she could dig up a lot of ugly balls. Demps could hide behind the DS for serve receive, like last season.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 29, 2022 13:43:36 GMT -5
Who needs a setter anyways Yes. In my strange dreams Orzol is a setter/libero combo plus occasional OH if thats possible, ha. Basically a multi position playing volleyball savant. Then if that was real thing it would get Wrobel on the court with Franklin. I want volleyball to be like the NBA is now where you just put out your five best and go. I know its not practical but It just bugs me that Wrobel isnt going to play for this team until her senior year. Shes too good. Setter/outside is possible, and happens occasionally. Hawaii a half-dozen years ago. I think Hilley might have done it in high school? The player is the setter across the back row, but instead of subbing out in favor of an opposite right-side hitter, she stays in and hits right-side herself across the front. a 'modified' 6-2 offense. Libero is subject to a number rules that limit what she can and cannot do.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 29, 2022 13:45:39 GMT -5
The dancer part was a joke. Except Smrek did dance, just like Rettke. That was, to me anyway, the joke. We've been told by the ESPN type announcers over and over about Dana's dancing and Anna's dancing.
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Post by pull3 on Aug 29, 2022 13:53:54 GMT -5
Whatever...obviously everyone knows that I suck on volleyball terms now. I want to see this "criss-cross" thing with Anna again, whether she is middle or RS. I saw none last week. They could still run that, they are choosing not too so far. Could be they are trying to get Smrek used to hitting on the pin, or maybe with the new setters they are getting the basics down before adding wrinkles. I hope Sheff can figure things out soon. Or I can see us losing the homecourt come tourney time.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 29, 2022 13:58:26 GMT -5
Yes. In my strange dreams Orzol is a setter/libero combo plus occasional OH if thats possible, ha. Basically a multi position playing volleyball savant. Then if that was real thing it would get Wrobel on the court with Franklin. I want volleyball to be like the NBA is now where you just put out your five best and go. I know its not practical but It just bugs me that Wrobel isnt going to play for this team until her senior year. Shes too good. Setter/outside is possible, and happens occasionally. Hawaii a half-dozen years ago. I think Hilley might have done it in high school? The player is the setter across the back row, but instead of subbing out in favor of an opposite right-side hitter, she stays in and hits right-side herself across the front. a 'modified' 6-2 offense. Libero is subject to a number rules that limit what she can and cannot do. Florida ran this recently with Carlton hitting and setting. Of course, Pitt with Fairbanks.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 29, 2022 14:05:31 GMT -5
They could still run that, they are choosing not too so far. Could be they are trying to get Smrek used to hitting on the pin, or maybe with the new setters they are getting the basics down before adding wrinkles. I hope Sheff can figure things out soon. Or I can see us losing the homecourt come tourney time. I think the team that wins the B1G will get a top 4 seed. Look at what happened in 2019 when the badgers lost 4 matches prior to the B1G season. Heck, last year he was given two major injuries and they had to figure it out during the B1G season. They have time. As for Demps, its still early in the season. A lot of roles could change. UW could go back to the 5-1 played at end of last year when Shanel comes in or Boyer recovers. Demps could get comfortable hitting on the right. The setter connection out there might improve. It has flashes of doing so, but the consistency hasn't been there so far. Maybe Franklin moves to the RS (problematic perhaps when both hitters are both passing and hitting, but doable.)
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 29, 2022 14:08:22 GMT -5
I have been pretty consistent in thinking the badgers could be lower top ten or even around 10-15 at beginning of the season. It will be fun to watch this team evolve. I like talking about it, but I'm not that worried. There is a lot of talent here. It's just a question of how to fit it all together.
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Post by ndodge on Aug 29, 2022 14:20:26 GMT -5
I have been pretty consistent in thinking the badgers could be lower top ten or even around 10-15 at beginning of the season. It will be fun to watch this team evolve. I like talking about it, but I'm not that worried. There is a lot of talent here. It's just a question of how to fit it all together. And the 6-2 and putting Wrobel in for a spell, and Demps when Hart sat, means Sheffield got to evaluate a lot of players and both setters for setter in back row situations.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 29, 2022 14:41:32 GMT -5
I think the challenge with Demps on the right is she's not comfortable in that position. She hasn't been particularly effective front row, particularly with blocking. Passing has to get better for any system. I think the benefit of a 6-2 with less than optimal passing is you have OH in the back row and always have the RS and OH as outlets. Does it make sense to sub Demps into the back row on occasion for Franklin, once Hart is able to stay in for more than one set? As long as we can pull her out of the passing, which is likely not the case now. We don't have the ability to pass with two.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 29, 2022 14:41:56 GMT -5
I don’t think Demps is a better passer than Franklin. She’s been used as a defender mostly not in SR. I’m not sure Demps is an upgrade on Franklin attacking out of the BR. Franklin is pretty comfortable there. Neither of them have Rettke pulling blockers anymore. Don't sleep on Demps. From I have seen last season, Demps has an excellent reaction time, thus she could dig up a lot of ugly balls. Demps could hide behind the DS for serve receive, like last season. Only in a 5-1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 14:58:34 GMT -5
I don’t think Demps is a better passer than Franklin. She’s been used as a defender mostly not in SR. I’m not sure Demps is an upgrade on Franklin attacking out of the BR. Franklin is pretty comfortable there. Neither of them have Rettke pulling blockers anymore. Don't sleep on Demps. From I have seen last season, Demps has an excellent reaction time, thus she could dig up a lot of ugly balls. Demps could hide behind the DS for serve receive, like last season. People are undervaluing Demps and overvaluing Franklin as it relates to the back row IMO. For some reason Demps hasn't looked all that great in the front row so I just don't see a roadmap for playing time in that configuration. Being the 5-1 DS to Smrek would allow her to shine and ultimately I believe that is the direction as the personnel in our back row in the 6-2 is lacking (Bramshreiber helps but then you start blowing through subs) if you compare it with the standard set by last years group. It does sound like Sheffields gonna have a long rope getting the 6-2 up and smoothly running this year so we can only hope to see game to game improvements in performance and overall comfort with running this system.
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Post by pull3 on Aug 29, 2022 15:52:12 GMT -5
Don't sleep on Demps. From I have seen last season, Demps has an excellent reaction time, thus she could dig up a lot of ugly balls. Demps could hide behind the DS for serve receive, like last season. People are undervaluing Demps and overvaluing Franklin as it relates to the back row IMO. Agree. Demps is faster. Franklin is stronger. In the back row, I value defense more. With our OOS problem is largely solved by a healthy Ozol and Franklin, back row attack is significantly less important now. Furthermore, resting Franklin helps offense too.Don't get me wrong, I love Franklin as much as the next guy, but I vote for Demps in the back. EDIT: And the Demps' serves, they might look weak but the balls float and make aces..........and next to zero errors.
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