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Post by ndodge on Sept 13, 2022 13:10:41 GMT -5
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Post by taxidea on Sept 13, 2022 13:22:21 GMT -5
Was only helping Wisc. fans who were concerned about doing both sports and being successful: by know means comparing her to DH! There are many more track/vb successful athletes: just chose a recent famous one! Thanks for that. No worries at all. I hope I didn’t come across as being snippy, but perhaps I did. In any case, DH is amazing, and it would be awesome for Wisconsin to have a chance with somebody like her. |
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Post by dodger on Sept 13, 2022 13:27:37 GMT -5
Was only helping Wisc. fans who were concerned about doing both sports and being successful: by know means comparing her to DH! There are many more track/vb successful athletes: just chose a recent famous one! Thanks for that. No worries at all. I hope I didn’t come across as being snippy, but perhaps I did. In any case, DH is amazing, and it would be awesome for Wisconsin to have a chance with somebody like her. Her times and jumps puts her top 1% athletes her age: and from seeing video of her playing: her height is irrelevant: she has her head and looks like some her shoulders up and over the tape:in another note her standing reach is more important than height: if your standing reach is over 8’ than your more like a 6’ plus height woman. |
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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 13, 2022 14:15:35 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty shocking for Kelly to take a hitter under 6 feet. orzol is under 6ft right? so was bates I believe. he did tell Claire chaussee she was too small play for wisco but she seems to have proven him wrong. most of the successful OHs under 6ft are often better athletes pound for pound than their 6'2-6'4 counterparts but have to find some extra ways to score. both of Louisvilles OHs are under 6ft and they can compete with anyone cause they get off the ground fast and have quick armswings, if you can find the right ones, faster and smaller OHs can be the way to go Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. |
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Post by buckypete on Sept 13, 2022 14:30:52 GMT -5
orzol is under 6ft right? so was bates I believe. he did tell Claire chaussee she was too small play for wisco but she seems to have proven him wrong. most of the successful OHs under 6ft are often better athletes pound for pound than their 6'2-6'4 counterparts but have to find some extra ways to score. both of Louisvilles OHs are under 6ft and they can compete with anyone cause they get off the ground fast and have quick armswings, if you can find the right ones, faster and smaller OHs can be the way to go Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. The shellshock of the 2016 loss to Stanford led to the decision that we will never again be the smallest team on the court. That said, an insanely athletic six-rotation toolkit is a hell of an option to have, and how well Orzol has been playing this year must reinforce that a bit. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2022 14:46:46 GMT -5
orzol is under 6ft right? so was bates I believe. he did tell Claire chaussee she was too small play for wisco but she seems to have proven him wrong. most of the successful OHs under 6ft are often better athletes pound for pound than their 6'2-6'4 counterparts but have to find some extra ways to score. both of Louisvilles OHs are under 6ft and they can compete with anyone cause they get off the ground fast and have quick armswings, if you can find the right ones, faster and smaller OHs can be the way to go Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. This is a bit revisionist. My memory is that bates moved to Libero because we had no other option in 2016 when Dodge tore her ACL, and Amac had repeated injuries to her wrists that eventually led to her retirement. And Bates only played there for one season - 2016. She moved back to OH in 2017. She had some monster matches. I still remember her igniting the comeback against illinois and a 6-5 MacMahon at the field house in 2014. It's so funny to see takes like this remembering how UW used to almost always be the smallest team on the court in most cases. We went to the NC with a setter who was taller than every front row player but one, including a 5-11 MB and a 5-7 OH. I remember how huge Stanford seemed by comparison in 2016. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2022 14:52:29 GMT -5
Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. The shellshock of the 2016 loss to Stanford led to the decision that we will never again be the smallest team on the court. Maybe, but Loberg and Rettke were already in the pipeline by the time of that match. I'm not sure the Stanford match really changed Sheff's opinion. He likes athletes and he likes them well rounded. If they they combine that with height, even better. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 13, 2022 16:05:08 GMT -5
Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. This is a bit revisionist. My memory is that bates moved to Libero because we had no other option in 2016 when Dodge tore her ACL, and Amac had repeated injuries to her wrists that eventually led to her retirement. And Bates only played there for one season - 2016. She moved back to OH in 2017. She had some monster matches. I still remember her igniting the comeback against illinois and a 6-5 MacMahon at the field house in 2014. It's so funny to see takes like this remembering how UW used to almost always be the smallest team on the court in most cases. We went to the NC with a setter who was taller than every front row player but one, including a 5-11 MB and a 5-7 OH. I remember how huge Stanford seemed by comparison in 2016. It may be a bit of 'revisionism' of my own, but in my mind, I see Bates getting more out her jump and the arc of her body's stretch and swing than most hitters do, such that she was maybe contacting the ball higher than her height would otherwise suggest. (I also remember that when she put that big swing on the ball, it was going down. No telling which side of the net, or in- or out-of-bounds, but the ball was hitting the court. :-) |
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 13, 2022 16:21:10 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty shocking for Kelly to take a hitter under 6 feet. orzol is under 6ft right? so was bates I believe. he did tell Claire chaussee she was too small play for wisco but she seems to have proven him wrong. most of the successful OHs under 6ft are often better athletes pound for pound than their 6'2-6'4 counterparts but have to find some extra ways to score. both of Louisvilles OHs are under 6ft and they can compete with anyone cause they get off the ground fast and have quick armswings, if you can find the right ones, faster and smaller OHs can be the way to go Gabi at 5'11", for Vakifbank (in Turkey) and the Brazilian NT, is one of the best OH's in the world. I honestly don't know how she gets it done, but I've not watched her consistently either. With Trinity's hops, she reminds me more of Pressley who just jumped over everyone rather than Member-Meneh who was explosive but would get in trouble against double blocks. The first minute of her highlight tape she was just hitting right over the block. Obviously in college that will change but it doesn't feel like verticality will be a major obstacle. A really enticing prospect! EDIT: I should be fair to Member-Meneh, for whom I only watched one match start to finish and it was against a really good blocking team in last year's Nebraska (I don't think people gave their block enough credit for how much it helped their floor defense). It's quite possible she was killing it against lesser blocks even OOS. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 16:29:07 GMT -5
A bit more on Trinity www.kwpredators.org/news_article/show/1228451Except from link below and WOW what an athlete!! "Shadd-Ceres suffered Achilles injuries in both legs while playing for the Predators at the Ontario Volleyball Association championship in late April and was unable to practise on the track until last week with Maximus. Earlier, and with no practice whatsoever, she competed in discomfort and went a perfect nine-for-nine in sweeping her events at the Waterloo County, Central Western Ontario and OFSAA West championships." |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 13, 2022 16:50:02 GMT -5
Let’s get those Achilles healed up, please.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2022 16:54:52 GMT -5
Let’s get those Achilles healed up, please. Yeah. We’ve had our share of kids coming in wounded. Both Achilles? |
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 13, 2022 16:58:49 GMT -5
She did not have a good match against San Diego, sadly. Got blocked a ton. Hit from the left side in 2 rotations and the right in 1. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2022 17:00:22 GMT -5
On the upside, she prefers volleyball to track it appears, but she definitely sounds like she is thinking about Paris 2024 in track, and getting a two sport scholarship in the US.
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 13, 2022 17:10:39 GMT -5
That's it, two Poles and two Canadians, we need to play more national anthems in 2024!
(in part because the Canadian national anthem is the best of them all, outside of the French).
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