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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 13, 2022 17:12:29 GMT -5
Orzol is listed at 6 ft, though I don't know how legit that is. Bates was really more of all around player who seemed better suited at libero. Her hitting % was not very good for most of her career. I agree that there is no need for an OH to be above 6 ft in the women's game. Pressley at Baylor was a questionable 6 ft and obviously was one of the best players in the country. And of course Pitts Leketor who was a monster at 5'8. But it is true that Kelly tends to recruit with the idea that you can't teach height seeing as how Wisconsin is almost always the biggest team on the court. This is a bit revisionist. My memory is that bates moved to Libero because we had no other option in 2016 when Dodge tore her ACL, and Amac had repeated injuries to her wrists that eventually led to her retirement. And Bates only played there for one season - 2016. She moved back to OH in 2017. She had some monster matches. I still remember her igniting the comeback against illinois and a 6-5 MacMahon at the field house in 2014. It's so funny to see takes like this remembering how UW used to almost always be the smallest team on the court in most cases. We went to the NC with a setter who was taller than every front row player but one, including a 5-11 MB and a 5-7 OH. I remember how huge Stanford seemed by comparison in 2016. It's a bit revisionist in that Bates was most definitely an OH, however I believe her best role was at Libero and that she was the best libero on team until we got Clark. As in had we not gotten Clark, I fully believe Bates would have been libero senior year. It was Bates tasked with being libero vs Stanford while Dodd and Dodge both played. Bates for sure initial moved to libero due to injuries, but then became the best option once the team got healthier. Our 2016 team though was most definitely not small. Nelson, Tiana, Romana, Gillis, Haggerty, and Carlini is good size across the board, just no giants, though Nelson was quite tall from what I remember. And then Bates is a tall libero making for a team with quite a high average height. Stanford though was abnormally huge, that's for sure. Though I think Plummer was just the tallest player on the court straight up. |
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 13, 2022 17:12:34 GMT -5
Has UW ever had a dual Vball track athlete before? Alexis Mitchell ran track and did some jumps after her vball eligibility finished up Didn't Chapman do something too? |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 13, 2022 17:49:23 GMT -5
Alexis Mitchell ran track and did some jumps after her vball eligibility finished up Didn't Chapman do something too? I know she wanted to. She told Sheff that when he showed up. Did she do part time before that? I just want to clarify to everyone that my original question was whether UW had ever had an athlete do both track and volleyball at the same time. Also, whether Sheff has ever coached an athlete that did that. I realize there have been track-Vball crossovers at other schools. Just trying to get a sense of whether it could happen in Madison. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2022 19:16:38 GMT -5
Not sure if this has already been discussed but this Friday at 2 p.m. Sydney Hilley, Dennis Punzel, and Coach Sheffield will be joining Jon Arias in a Cap Times Idea Fest virtual session. Discussion includes 2021 championship run and what's in store in 2022. More info on this at captimesideafest.com/ |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 13, 2022 22:53:38 GMT -5
Regarding 6-2 substitutions, and 'plan B' when Bramschreiber becomes available:
I won't go through the gory details (like I did last time) of what Nebraska did tonight vs Stanford, though the sub count situation came up in three of their four sets, and each time they did something different...
... but what that drove home to me is that running out of subs while running a 6-2 is qualitatively different that when UW would run out of subs in the past couple years while running the 5-1. And it will be a consideration for UW this season if they run 6-2 while subbing Bramschreiber.
When you get up to 12 or 13 in the sub count in the 5-1, the decisions to sub still come 'one at a time' - sub Loberg out, or leave her in to serve and play back row? Smrek back in, or Demps stays in and plays the front? eg. - You don't *really* have to fully commit to a specific 'plan B' until you're at 13 or even 14.
But when you're running a 6-2, and you're at 12, and the current setter is about to rotate to the front row, you're about to make two subs, not just one; you're gonna go from 12 up to 14 right away. That is, you have to be thinking about it earlier in the set than when you're running 5-1.
You might have to commit to your 'plan B' as early as 12 subs, and that's really different than it has been the last couple years.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 14, 2022 0:27:40 GMT -5
Regarding 6-2 substitutions, and 'plan B' when Bramschreiber becomes available: I won't go through the gory details (like I did last time) of what Nebraska did tonight vs Stanford, though the sub count situation came up in three of their four sets, and each time they did something different... ... but what that drove home to me is that running out of subs while running a 6-2 is qualitatively different that when UW would run out of subs in the past couple years while running the 5-1. And it will be a consideration for UW this season if they run 6-2 while subbing Bramschreiber. When you get up to 12 or 13 in the sub count in the 5-1, the decisions to sub still come 'one at a time' - sub Loberg out, or leave her in to serve and play back row? Smrek back in, or Demps stays in and plays the front? eg. - You don't *really* have to fully commit to a specific 'plan B' until you're at 13 or even 14. But when you're running a 6-2, and you're at 12, and the current setter is about to rotate to the front row, you're about to make two subs, not just one; you're gonna go from 12 up to 14 right away. That is, you have to be thinking about it earlier in the set than when you're running 5-1. You might have to commit to your 'plan B' as early as 12 subs, and that's really different than it has been the last couple years. Yeah. This is why I posed the question. If you are in a tight set, you might want to be thinking ahead about shifting to a 5-1 (and who sets, blocks in front row and passes) well ahead of that 15th sub. Especially if you want to leave open the option of having, say, Gregorski serve late in the match, or Bramscrieber passing for as much as possible. I’d imagine they have a plan of action, but it’s fun to guess. |
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 14, 2022 10:58:45 GMT -5
Is that why Franklin serves early on in a set, but then gets subbed out later? Try to save some subs early on, and then see how the flow of scoring is going before using up a bunch?
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 14, 2022 11:09:27 GMT -5
Is that why Franklin serves early on in a set, but then gets subbed out later? Try to save some subs early on, and then see how the flow of scoring is going before using up a bunch? Maybe, or maybe Sheff just like the different look from the service line. I do imagine he would prefer to hold some subs in reserve for strategic reasons. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 14, 2022 11:19:20 GMT -5
Is that why Franklin serves early on in a set, but then gets subbed out later? Try to save some subs early on, and then see how the flow of scoring is going before using up a bunch? That would be my guess, yes. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 14, 2022 11:39:30 GMT -5
I don't think Nebraska would be making that DS sub in the back row for their OH's if (a) their H1's could pass anywhere near as well as Knuckles (floor defense is important too but it's not the first thing you do in half your points), or (b) Knuckles wasn't so darn good that you just have to try to figure out a way to get her into the game. Plus, in an emergency Knuckles does okay in the front row, though there's no way you'd want her hitting against a well-formed block.
Maybe Bramschrieber is also that good, but Franklin passes way better than any of the Nebraska OH's not named Madi Kubik.
Sheffield seems to have a pretty set plan (probably with contingencies). I don't think Cook has any idea what they'll be running at the end of the year - it feels like he's kind of waiting to see if Orr can get back into the starting lineup (though he may not have a choice in the short term), and the 6-2 is a way to kick the can down the road a bit on that. Or, maybe there's something undisclosed (like maybe Hames has some hand injury that prevents her from blocking)
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 14, 2022 13:43:54 GMT -5
I don't think Nebraska would be making that DS sub in the back row for their OH's if (a) their H1's could pass anywhere near as well as Knuckles (floor defense is important too but it's not the first thing you do in half your points), or (b) Knuckles wasn't so darn good that you just have to try to figure out a way to get her into the game. Plus, in an emergency Knuckles does okay in the front row, though there's no way you'd want her hitting against a well-formed block. Maybe Bramschrieber is also that good, but Franklin passes way better than any of the Nebraska OH's not named Madi Kubik. Sheffield seems to have a pretty set plan (probably with contingencies). I don't think Cook has any idea what they'll be running at the end of the year - it feels like he's kind of waiting to see if Orr can get back into the starting lineup (though he may not have a choice in the short term), and the 6-2 is a way to kick the can down the road a bit on that. Or, maybe there's something undisclosed (like maybe Hames has some hand injury that prevents her from blocking) I think it's a good question of who Bramschreiber might replace in the BR. She can pass better than anyone in the lineup right now according to past stats. However, is she so much better that it is worth taking the threat of Franklin out of the backrow? Orzol is less of a BR threat than Franklin so far, but I think she is also the better passer, so the upside of improving passing is less for her. It may be down to who feels the most fatigue through the year playing 6 rotations - or who responds better to getting a breather every time through the rotation. i remember Samedy didn't respond at all well to playing three rotations. Some hitters just don't like it, and I would not be surprised if Franklin and Orzol fit that mould. |
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Sept 14, 2022 23:52:53 GMT -5
Alexis Mitchell ran track and did some jumps after her vball eligibility finished up Didn't Chapman do something too? Chapman showed up on the track roster in 2013, but never competed in a meet as far as I could tell. |
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Post by buckypete on Sept 14, 2022 23:55:44 GMT -5
So, whose shirt are you getting first? This from the State Journal, ostensibly in an article about football BUT....
"There's a more immediate step happening at UW. Late Tuesday afternoon, retail manager Michael Herfel and his staff started unpacking a shipment that went right onto hangers and on racks straight in from the front door of the Bucky's Locker Room store inside Camp Randall Stadium. The red T-shirts have a Badgers player's name and number on the back.
Similar shirts bearing the names of Badgers volleyball players will be going on sale Friday night at the Kohl Center when UW tries to break the NCAA regular-season attendance record against Florida."
I want to nab me a Guctekin 21 if possible.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 15, 2022 1:20:28 GMT -5
So, whose shirt are you getting first? As someone who grew up in Virginia, I gotta go with Hart. My twins might want me to get CC and GG though. |
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 15, 2022 1:22:38 GMT -5
Kentucky gave Louisville all it could handle in a 5-set loss (and each set was very close). Sweeping the Wildcats might just look a bit more impressive than it was at the time.
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