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Post by badgerguru on Sept 25, 2022 3:53:58 GMT -5
What they did in the third set last night would work counter to that. With Izzy as the first server and Orzol as the next server in zone 2, about to rotate back- rotation 1 - Orsol and Izzy are backrow together for two rotations; when Orzol is serving and when GG (as Hart) is serving. If you make Franklin the second server as they did in the third set, then it is Franklin following Izzy across the back row, together there for those two rotations. You'd have less opportunity for Izzy to be setting an Orzol backrow attack (and so *more* opportunity for Izzy to set a Franklin backrow swing; maybe that?). The obvious reason would be that Franklin was serving better, but with MJ also serving lights out I don't see why you wouldn't just spin the dial to start MJ back right in that case. When I see them doing things like switching which setter Robinson is pairing with and switching up who's in the H1 and H2 position, it convinces me more that UW is not committed to running the 6-2 all season and that future results, especially when Bramschrieber gets back, will determine what we end up in. okay so I am curious what lineup we would have if not using a 6-2 |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 25, 2022 8:49:24 GMT -5
The obvious reason would be that Franklin was serving better, but with MJ also serving lights out I don't see why you wouldn't just spin the dial to start MJ back right in that case. When I see them doing things like switching which setter Robinson is pairing with and switching up who's in the H1 and H2 position, it convinces me more that UW is not committed to running the 6-2 all season and that future results, especially when Bramschrieber gets back, will determine what we end up in. okay so I am curious what lineup we would have if not using a 6-2 Going to a 5-1 would mostly affect the opposite and, obviously, the setter positions. Of the three most commonly playing opposite right now, I don't think I'll get much pushback saying Robinson is the most effective. The lefts would still be Orzol and Franklin, the middles Hart and Crawford. GG as libero at least until Bramschreiber becomes available, then one is libero and the other is the first DS into the match, subbing for Franklin. Then it depends on which setter wins out: if it is MJ, then you wants Izzy's serve in there, so she could be the DS for Robinson; but if Izzy is the setter, then you could have Demps be the DS for Robinson and backrow attack like last year. Smrek becomes the 'odd woman out'. I think they are committed to the 6-2, and this is all just a hypothetical exercise. But that would be my guess. |
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Post by pull3 on Sept 25, 2022 9:05:10 GMT -5
The obvious reason would be that Franklin was serving better, but with MJ also serving lights out I don't see why you wouldn't just spin the dial to start MJ back right in that case. When I see them doing things like switching which setter Robinson is pairing with and switching up who's in the H1 and H2 position, it convinces me more that UW is not committed to running the 6-2 all season and that future results, especially when Bramschrieber gets back, will determine what we end up in. okay so I am curious what lineup we would have if not using a 6-2
My take is whatever the Champion lineup was, with (Rettke <> Hart), (Loberg <> Franklin), (Shanel GG <> Barnes Civita). CC sub in if one of our middles having an off night. Not sure about setter yet.
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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 25, 2022 9:21:12 GMT -5
okay so I am curious what lineup we would have if not using a 6-2
My take is whatever the Champion lineup was, with (Rettke <> Hart), (Loberg <> Franklin), (Shanel GG <> Barnes Civita). CC sub in if one of our middles having an off night. Not sure about setter yet.
CC way too good to take out of starting lineup. It’s clear Smrek has been a weak spot though it’s also clear they are not setting to her strengths. |
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Post by pull3 on Sept 25, 2022 9:30:22 GMT -5
My take is whatever the Champion lineup was, with (Rettke <> Hart), (Loberg <> Franklin), (Shanel GG <> Barnes Civita). CC sub in if one of our middles having an off night. Not sure about setter yet.
CC way too good to take out of starting lineup. It’s clear Smrek has been a weak spot though it’s also clear they are not setting to her strengths. We need a Hart/Robinson slide decoy to set Smrek in the middle. This doesn't happen in this season.
I know CC is too good to drop. But well, there is a saying that "don't fix thing when it is not broken".
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Post by ndodge on Sept 25, 2022 10:07:28 GMT -5
I got the sense watching TX and OSU / NE this week that WI could beat those teams with bully ball serve and block primarily if they clean up passing with improved GG and Shanel for Franklin back row .
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Post by taxidea on Sept 25, 2022 10:18:26 GMT -5
I got the sense watching TX and OSU / NE this week that WI could beat those teams with bully ball serve and block primarily if they clean up passing with improved GG and Shanel for Franklin back row . You too? The latter two are especially ripe for us. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 11:28:25 GMT -5
CC way too good to take out of starting lineup. It’s clear Smrek has been a weak spot though it’s also clear they are not setting to her strengths. We need a Hart/Robinson slide decoy to set Smrek in the middle. This doesn't happen in this season.
I know CC is too good to drop. But well, there is a saying that "don't fix thing when it is not broken".
I don’t think the lack of a slide is going to persist year long. Last match they ran Hart on the slide quite a bit. She was very effective. They’ve run CC less, but she does it now and then. The connection on the slide has been a work in progress for both setters, but the passing really hasn’t been good enough to run the slide reliably. As the year goes on, we’ll see that crossing play more and more. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 11:41:29 GMT -5
I got the sense watching TX and OSU / NE this week that WI could beat those teams with bully ball serve and block primarily if they clean up passing with improved GG and Shanel for Franklin back row . What I got watching the games this week is that there is no clearly dominant team in the B1G, and possibly nationally. I’m more inclined to think Kansas caught Texas on an off night. But OSU, Nebraska, PSU, UW all seem to have weaknesses, or at least issues that they are working through. Teams will be on pretty steep trajectories this year in their development. Really hard to predict how this will shake out in a month or two. The badgers are no where near as good right now as they could become. Michigan looked better than all of them if I’m being honest. We’ll see if they can sustain that. |
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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 25, 2022 12:06:13 GMT -5
I got the sense watching TX and OSU / NE this week that WI could beat those teams with bully ball serve and block primarily if they clean up passing with improved GG and Shanel for Franklin back row . You too? The latter two are especially ripe for us. During northwestern game, announcers discussed non conference passing ratings of teams on BIG. Ohio state passes a 1.87? That’s really awful. |
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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 25, 2022 12:07:21 GMT -5
We need a Hart/Robinson slide decoy to set Smrek in the middle. This doesn't happen in this season.
I know CC is too good to drop. But well, there is a saying that "don't fix thing when it is not broken".
I don’t think the lack of a slide is going to persist year long. Last match they ran Hart on the slide quite a bit. She was very effective. They’ve run CC less, but she does it now and then. The connection on the slide has been a work in progress for both setters, but the passing really hasn’t been good enough to run the slide reliably. As the year goes on, we’ll see that crossing play more and more. Yeah the real key the last 5 years is that Rettke was so damn good |
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Post by SportyBucky on Sept 25, 2022 12:51:29 GMT -5
I don’t think the lack of a slide is going to persist year long. Last match they ran Hart on the slide quite a bit. She was very effective. They’ve run CC less, but she does it now and then. The connection on the slide has been a work in progress for both setters, but the passing really hasn’t been good enough to run the slide reliably. As the year goes on, we’ll see that crossing play more and more. Yeah the real key the last 5 years is that Rettke was so damn good A part of it. Bigger is passing and Hilley's setting. If Hart was running that slide and Smrek middle, same result. It isolates. If Hart is left alone or single block she is 85% effective. |
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Post by timmma on Sept 25, 2022 16:56:01 GMT -5
Can someone remind me what’s wrong with Boyer? She’s never suited up-not sure the injury
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 17:05:53 GMT -5
Can someone remind me what’s wrong with Boyer? She’s never suited up-not sure the injury I haven't heard any clear report. Makes me think she taking a medical redshirt. Has she played this year? I don't remember her doing so. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 25, 2022 17:33:16 GMT -5
Can someone remind me what’s wrong with Boyer? She’s never suited up-not sure the injury I haven't heard any clear report. Makes me think she taking a medical redshirt. Has she played this year? I don't remember her doing so. No, she has not played this year. But she took part in the senior 'jump in the lake'. With a medical hardship year, she'd have two years eligibility remaining, so she could always change her mind. (Gregorski said essentially that about her jump in the lake.) But FWIW, she did the senior jump. |
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