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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 25, 2022 17:55:39 GMT -5
I haven't heard any clear report. Makes me think she taking a medical redshirt. Has she played this year? I don't remember her doing so. No, she has not played this year. But she took part in the senior 'jump in the lake'. With a medical hardship year, she'd have two years eligibility remaining, so she could always change her mind. (Gregorski said essentially that about her jump in the lake.) But FWIW, she did the senior jump. Didn’t all the COVID seniors do a double lake jump? |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 25, 2022 18:09:30 GMT -5
No, she has not played this year. But she took part in the senior 'jump in the lake'. With a medical hardship year, she'd have two years eligibility remaining, so she could always change her mind. (Gregorski said essentially that about her jump in the lake.) But FWIW, she did the senior jump. Didn’t all the COVID seniors do a double lake jump? That depends on what you mean by "COVID senior". Hart and Bramschreiber jumped; Bramschreiber clearly is out of eligibility after 2022, Hart could actually apply for the "Kayla Caffey" seventh year, but will likely not do do. Boyer and Gregorski jumped. Both were 2019 freshmen, as were Ashburn and AnnaMac. All would have 2023 eligibility; Gregorski more, if she were to apply for medical hardship. Ashburn and AnnaMac did not jump. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 25, 2022 18:19:15 GMT -5
Didn’t all the COVID seniors do a double lake jump? That depends on what you mean by "COVID senior". Hart and Bramschreiber jumped; Bramschreiber clearly is out of eligibility after 2022, Hart could actually apply for the "Kayla Caffey" seventh year, but will likely not do do. Boyer and Gregorski jumped. Both were 2019 freshmen, as were Ashburn and AnnaMac. All would have 2023 eligibility; Gregorski more, if she were to apply for medical hardship. Ashburn and AnnaMac did not jump. Also, all the OG COVID seniors - Rettke, Hilley, et al - they all jumped in the lake in the late summer/early fall of 2020, when it was unclear what the season would hold. The Big Ten hadn’t even postponed the conference season to spring when that picture was taken. So it made sense for them to jump, as they had no idea what was coming. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2022 21:15:37 GMT -5
Wisconsin was up against it. Block was invisible for much of the evening. Minnesota hit .400 and .432 respectively in Sets 2 and 3. 😳 Then you have Landfair and Co. teeing off on Gùlce and our shaky defense.
Gonna see this alot unless we switch to the 5-1 and incorporate Bramshreiber when available.
We need to feed Smrek over and over until the opponent can stop it. We have poor setting decisions I believe that is when they aren't on roller skates.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 21:27:32 GMT -5
Really don't think we're going to the 5-1. Now that I've seen the team in action, I think Ashburn is on the whole better, but in a 5-1 I'm not sure which is better. I'm not sure either is good enough in a 5-1. I think it's 6-2 or bust.
The question is whether Bramschreiber comes in for GG. Solidify that passing, a lot of other things can fall into place. We'll see if she can manage it.
The gophers just played a lot better than they did against Pepperdine or Purdue, but that is the kind of performance the badgers need to play against.
This season has a 2017 vibe to me. There will be some pain to begin. The one advantage is that the OHs are actually both really good.
The team has to learn how to take opportunities and to finish better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2022 21:37:42 GMT -5
Really don't think we're going to the 5-1. Now that I've seen the team in action, I think Ashburn is on the whole better, but in a 5-1 I'm not sure which is better. I'm not sure either is good enough in a 5-1. I think it's 6-2 or bust. The question is whether Bramschreiber comes in for GG. Solidify that passing, a lot of other things can fall into place. We'll see if she can manage it. The gophers just played a lot better than they did against Pepperdine or Purdue, but that is the kind of performance the badgers need to play against. This season has a 2017 vibe to me. There will be some pain to begin. The one advantage is that the OHs are actually both really good. The team has to learn how to take opportunities and to finish better. I sort of agree about Izzy being the overall better setter but mainly because she handles poor passing better than MJ does. But in a 5-1 Izzy would be a significant liability when the time comes to blocking duties. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 21:42:34 GMT -5
So, if they go to a 5-1, I believe it will be Hammill setting and not Izzy. The reason they might go to a 5-1 is if the passing in a 6-2 isn't good enough to use the middle attack. At that point, you render all the options in a 6-2 irrelevant. You fall back on making the passing better with a libero and a DS to use a BR attack in the two hitter rotations in a 5-1. Luckily what they practice in a 6-2 prepares them for that.
Right now, Orzol and Franklin are decent enough passers. GG has to get better, or Bramschreiber has to improve on her passing. I think that's the most likely outcome.
If the passing doesn't get better, you might as well go to the 5-1.
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Post by ndodge on Sept 25, 2022 21:57:13 GMT -5
So if CC serves and Shanel plays back row (assuming for the moment GG stays libero) how big a concern would the sub limit be ? And I’d assume Franklin would still serve unless Shanel has a really good one. If workable with subs I’d like to see that lineup. Maybe. But I’d really like more middle swings for Smrek
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Post by robtearle on Sept 25, 2022 22:16:06 GMT -5
So if CC serves and Shanel plays back row (assuming for the moment GG stays libero) how big a concern would the sub limit be ? And I’d assume Franklin would still serve unless Shanel has a really good one. If workable with subs I’d like to see that lineup. Maybe. But I’d really like more middle swings for Smrek It would be six subs per full rotation. And that's what Sheffield has done for the past however many years. It's something you have to keep in mind and have 'plan B' ready, but it isn't something that precludes doing what you suggest. I fully anticipate that will be the lineup/rotation in another three weeks. |
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 25, 2022 22:57:20 GMT -5
The reason they might go to a 5-1 is if the passing in a 6-2 isn't good enough to use the middle attack. At that point, you render all the options in a 6-2 irrelevant. The bad passing/setting is definitely negating the advantages of the 6-2, since Franklin & Orzol are getting 600 balls/match on the left side. What’s the point of having 3 from row hitters to worry about when the other team knows exactly where the ball is going to nearly every time? |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 25, 2022 23:07:32 GMT -5
Minnesota match, points by server by set:
Izzy on the court: 13-15, 9-11, 15-17; total 37-43
MJ on the court: ; 8-10, 7-14, 12-12; total 27-36
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Points scored during the serve of server:
Izzy: 4 points on 7 trips to the line
Orzol: 1 point on 8 trips
GG: 5 points on 8 trips
MJ: 1 point on 7 trips
Franklin: 6 points on 8 trips
Liz G: 2 points on 3 trips
CC: 0 points on 3 trips
Demps: 0 points on 1 trip
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Sideout percents by server for the year (taking out High Point, Campbell, Rhode Island; lower number the better)
Izzy: 0.565
Orzol: 0. 701
GG: 0.556
MJ: 0.514
Franklin: 0.627
Liz G: 0.727
CC: 0.556
Demps: 0.235
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 25, 2022 23:44:31 GMT -5
So, if they go to a 5-1, I believe it will be Hammill setting and not Izzy. The reason they might go to a 5-1 is if the passing in a 6-2 isn't good enough to use the middle attack. At that point, you render all the options in a 6-2 irrelevant. You fall back on making the passing better with a libero and a DS to use a BR attack in the two hitter rotations in a 5-1. Luckily what they practice in a 6-2 prepares them for that. Right now, Orzol and Franklin are decent enough passers. GG has to get better, or Bramschreiber has to improve on her passing. I think that's the most likely outcome. If the passing doesn't get better, you might as well go to the 5-1. I'll have to amend this after listening to sheffield's post match comments. It turns out one thing he really likes about the 6-2 is how the larger net presence makes for a better defense and more effective transition. Carlini and Hilley+Rettke were great at running an in system offense. They managed it when they had no right to. But the team was always susceptible to getting taken OOS. Demps from the backrow solved that problem, as did Courtney Thomas before, but it was a real weakness most years. Reading between the lines, I think Sheff's not sure Hammill or Ashburn could run a 5-1 offense like Carlini or Hilley+Rettke. As a consequence, the first ball side out percentages just wouldn't be high enough. You compensate for this problem with a better defense, and better transition. For the first time ever, they have at least two outsides who are comfortable hitting OOS and from the BR. They have a libero who can bump set OOS to either pin like nobody's business. The key is to make sure the other team does not score before you do. That is when defense matters, and 6-2 gives you that defense. He clearly thinks GG will be able to learn to pass better, and that a lot of the problems come from the lack of integration among the passers. If they pass better, first ball attack gets better. But they will also want the option of defending well if it doesn't, getting a block or running an effective transition. What constitutes good enough passing may be a lower bar than we have been used to in the past. Anyway, that's how I read the situation. We're stuck with the 6-2. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 26, 2022 2:29:50 GMT -5
And honestly, maybe we need to be patient and accept that GG isn't Lexi Rodriguez 2.0 and that she's going to have the freshman struggles. But at this point, I'm rooting for us but already believe we aren't going to be a final four team by the end of the year and that's okay, because you can't be there every year and next year's version of the 6-2 will have the passing, firepower and coordination to make a big run. I just still worry about the floor defense though; other than Orzol and GG, we just don't have players that get to balls.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 26, 2022 4:45:56 GMT -5
The reason they might go to a 5-1 is if the passing in a 6-2 isn't good enough to use the middle attack. At that point, you render all the options in a 6-2 irrelevant. The bad passing/setting is definitely negating the advantages of the 6-2, since Franklin & Orzol are getting 600 balls/match on the left side. What’s the point of having 3 from row hitters to worry about when the other team knows exactly where the ball is going to nearly every time?THIS THIS THIS. It just makes no sense to me. |
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Post by gogophers on Sept 26, 2022 4:46:24 GMT -5
I'll certainly defer to Wisconsin fans, as I don't follow the Badgers closely. But I see the season hitting percentage is .267. Isn't that pretty good? Last year, it was .291, but I mean, c'mon: you lost a player like Rettke and a first team AA setter like Hilley, you ought to expect some dropoff. In the meantime, the opponent's hitting percentage is something like .150. All this suggests that Wisconsin is doing quite well and will continue to do quite well, even if it ran into a buzzsaw in Mpls.
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