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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 26, 2022 4:49:34 GMT -5
I'll certainly defer to Wisconsin fans, as I don't follow the Badgers closely. But I see the season hitting percentage is .267. Isn't that pretty good? Last year, it was .291, but I mean, c'mon: you lost a player like Rettke and a first team AA setter like Hilley, you ought to expect some dropoff. In the meantime, the opponent's hitting percentage is something like .150. All this suggests that Wisconsin is doing quite well and will continue to do quite well, even if it ran into a buzzsaw in Mpls. What is it if you remove Rhode Island, High Point, and Campbell?
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Post by gogophers on Sept 26, 2022 5:35:29 GMT -5
I'll certainly defer to Wisconsin fans, as I don't follow the Badgers closely. But I see the season hitting percentage is .267. Isn't that pretty good? Last year, it was .291, but I mean, c'mon: you lost a player like Rettke and a first team AA setter like Hilley, you ought to expect some dropoff. In the meantime, the opponent's hitting percentage is something like .150. All this suggests that Wisconsin is doing quite well and will continue to do quite well, even if it ran into a buzzsaw in Mpls. What is it if you remove Rhode Island, High Point, and Campbell? Don't know, but most teams play a few easy matches in the pre-conference part of the season. That's part of the territory that is "hitting percentage." The RPI futures week 4 thread said Wisconsin's strength of schedule ranks 9th, a little easier than Minnesota and Ohio State, but better than Nebraska and a lot higher than Purdue or PSU. So, all in all, a pretty tough pre-conference schedule. You can't say Wisconsin padded its stats by scheduling cupcakes.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 26, 2022 5:52:46 GMT -5
next year's version of the 6-2 LOLWUT? Sure, we might have the arms to run a 6-2 again next year, but that assumes Izzy comes back for a COVID year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 6:50:47 GMT -5
The reason they might go to a 5-1 is if the passing in a 6-2 isn't good enough to use the middle attack. At that point, you render all the options in a 6-2 irrelevant. The bad passing/setting is definitely negating the advantages of the 6-2, since Franklin & Orzol are getting 600 balls/match on the left side. What’s the point of having 3 from row hitters to worry about when the other team knows exactly where the ball is going to nearly every time? Agree especially going against the upper echelon teams of the Big Ten. Sheffield said our defensive numbers are better in 6-2? How much better? Better enough to endure the anemic passing game and being subjected to so many OOS plays. We will not be so successful at the highest level against the top teams in Big Ten this year UNLESS we can get the connection to Anna Smrek rolling. We are just too easy to attack and frankly too predictable to defend. Will just watch for growth and temper my expectations for this season.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2022 6:55:47 GMT -5
next year's version of the 6-2 LOLWUT? Sure, we might have the arms to run a 6-2 again next year, but that assumes Izzy comes back for a COVID year. Izzy did not participate in the senior 'jump in the lake'. Obviously, that isn't definitive in any way, people can change their minds. But it is a clear indication of her intention at the moment. Assume Izzy will be back until you hear otherwise.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 26, 2022 7:26:54 GMT -5
But it is a clear indication of her intention at the moment. Assume Izzy will be back until you hear otherwise. So does that put Izzy & MJ as 5th year seniors for 2023, then we’re going to have to rely on that freshman setter we have coming in 2024 (Charlie whatever her last name is)?
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Sept 26, 2022 7:29:31 GMT -5
But it is a clear indication of her intention at the moment. Assume Izzy will be back until you hear otherwise. So does that put Izzy & MJ as 5th year seniors for 2023, then we’re going to have to rely on that freshman setter we have coming in 2024 (Charlie whatever her last name is)? No, Mj Hammil would be a true senior in 2023 and could come back for a COVID here in 2024.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 26, 2022 7:43:01 GMT -5
Sheffield said our defensive numbers are better in 6-2? How much better? Better enough to endure the anemic passing game and being subjected to so many OOS plays. I think I get the point of what he’s saying, that the offense would fall apart whenever we got OOS (see 2019 Stanford and spring 2021 Texas). Even with Hilley & Rettke, we needed to be pretty close to perfect in our passing, or else the offense would get one dimensional. The current offense has the ability to score OOS like we’ve never had, but the issue that I’m not sure if KS is addressing is how big of holes we have on the floor and the smaller range the backrow seems to have compared to previous years. This is probably where we miss Civita & Barnes the most. We will not be so successful at the highest level against the top teams in Big Ten this year UNLESS we can get the connection to Anna Smrek rolling. We are just too easy to attack and frankly too predictable to defend. Will just watch for growth and temper my expectations for this season. I’m really not sure what the answer is with her. Passing seems to be the root of the problem, just like it was against Louisville in the FF at one point when they took her out in favor of Demps for a while bc they couldn’t get Smrek the ball in set 2 and part of set 3. They cleaned up the passing, stayed in system better the rest of the way, and Anna finished with a monster game. I hope we can just continue to work on cleaning up the passing and get everyone in sync with the 2 setters between now and tourney time, take some lumps along the way, and hopefully peak at the right time as a low seed like Nebraska did last year.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 26, 2022 9:42:57 GMT -5
I expected a 5 sets loss so I am not terribly upset. I am just disappointed we didn't get a set. Also I am adjusting my expectation of getting a top 4 seed, everything seems too late for that. Afterall a 16 seed and an elite eight berth will make me happy, for now.
I will give Sheff a little more benefit of doubt until Shanel comes back.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 26, 2022 10:01:15 GMT -5
I just requested off for Thu/Fri of Sweet 16 week, since it's pretty much a given we'll be traveling... if we even make it that far...
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Post by jackolantern on Sept 26, 2022 11:23:14 GMT -5
The bad passing/setting is definitely negating the advantages of the 6-2, since Franklin & Orzol are getting 600 balls/match on the left side. What’s the point of having 3 from row hitters to worry about when the other team knows exactly where the ball is going to nearly every time? Agree especially going against the upper echelon teams of the Big Ten. Sheffield said our defensive numbers are better in 6-2? How much better? Better enough to endure the anemic passing game and being subjected to so many OOS plays. We will not be so successful at the highest level against the top teams in Big Ten this year UNLESS we can get the connection to Anna Smrek rolling. We are just too easy to attack and frankly too predictable to defend. Will just watch for growth and temper my expectations for this season. Every time Smrek makes a good play, Sheffield takes her out of the game. She can never develop a rhythm. We all saw last season that she has the ability to dominate. Does anyone know why she's not getting the minutes this season?
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Post by buckyupbuttercup on Sept 26, 2022 11:55:57 GMT -5
At this point, I'm still in the 6-2 or bust camp. Without a dominant setter, the ultimate ceiling is just higher given the make-up of this group. There aren't any obvious changes that don't come with minuses offsetting possible benefits. I'm still thinking Shanel subbing backrow for Franklin is the best bet to stabilize things overall. A few of GG's shanks were when she would step in front of Franklin in serve receive. Franklin is obviously not strong enough to hold her own completely in receive and GG isn't strong enough to cover for her.
Side note - Seemingly regardless of how easy or difficult the chance, it is rare for good things to happen when any middle/ride side(other than crawford) is forced to handle a first or second ball.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2022 14:00:18 GMT -5
Agree especially going against the upper echelon teams of the Big Ten. Sheffield said our defensive numbers are better in 6-2? How much better? Better enough to endure the anemic passing game and being subjected to so many OOS plays. We will not be so successful at the highest level against the top teams in Big Ten this year UNLESS we can get the connection to Anna Smrek rolling. We are just too easy to attack and frankly too predictable to defend. Will just watch for growth and temper my expectations for this season. Every time Smrek makes a good play, Sheffield takes her out of the game. She can never develop a rhythm. We all saw last season that she has the ability to dominate. Does anyone know why she's not getting the minutes this season? Well, if "makes a good play" means it ended the point and UW was in serve-receive, there's a one in three chance that Smrek comes out as part of the normal rotation-substitution pattern, and it would have nothing to do with the 'good' or 'bad' of the point. Sheffield has also on occasion - when it's late in sets and he has enough subs on the sub count limit - made Demps-for-Smrek substitutions for an 'offense/defense' advantage. I can't imagine there has been a straight-up 'Smrek gets the kill' and is immediately replaced without it having to do with the rotation, but if you can point to one, I'd be interested in digging up the video and having a look.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 26, 2022 14:28:00 GMT -5
Sheff please rewatch this video. Smrek can do well with Robinson.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2022 14:33:15 GMT -5
Sheff please rewatch this video. Smrek can do well with Robinson. "...with Robinson" was when Robinson was playing middle, Hilley was setting and Barnes and Gio were passing. Robinson isn't playing middle, Hilley isn't setting, and Barnes and Gio aren't passing.
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