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Post by robtearle on Oct 2, 2022 21:13:22 GMT -5
Illinois match, points by server by set:
Izzy on the court: 14-10, 9-11, 13-14; 11-11, 6-3; total 53-49
MJ on the court: ; 11-17, 16-9, 9-11, 14-8, 9-2; total 59-47
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Points scored during the serve of server:
Izzy: 10 points on 10 trips to the line
Orzol: 7 point on 10 trips
GG: 8 points on 10 trips
MJ: 12 point on 10 trips
Franklin: 5 points on 7 trips
CC: 1 points on 6 trips
Liz G: 11 points on 4 trips (including the last six points of the fifth set)
And a special inclusion of Reina Terry's serving, because it was such a factor in the two sets Illinois won:
15 points on 10 trips to the line, including a five point run in the first set, and another five point run in the third set.
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Sideout percents by server for the year (taking out High Point, Campbell, Rhode Island; lower number the better)
Izzy: 0.506
Orzol: 0.661
GG: 0.558
MJ: 0.521
Franklin: 0.622
Liz G: 0.600
CC: 0.585
Demps: 0.235
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 2, 2022 21:27:39 GMT -5
Illinois match, points by server by set: Izzy on the court: 14-10, 9-11, 13-14; 11-11, 6-3; total 53-49 MJ on the court: ; 11-17, 16-9, 9-11, 14-8, 9-2; total 59-47 ----------- Points scored during the serve of server: Izzy: 10 points on 10 trips to the line Orzol: 7 point on 10 trips GG: 8 points on 10 trips MJ: 12 point on 10 trips Franklin: 5 points on 7 trips CC: 1 points on 6 trips Liz G: 11 points on 4 trips (including the last six points of the fifth set) And a special inclusion of Reina Terry's serving, because it was such a factor in the two sets Illinois won: 15 points on 10 trips to the line, including a five point run in the first set, and another five point run in the third set. ----------- Sideout percents by server for the year (taking out High Point, Campbell, Rhode Island; lower number the better) Izzy: 0.506 Orzol: 0.661 GG: 0.558 MJ: 0.521 Franklin: 0.622 Liz G: 0.600 CC: 0.585 Demps: 0.235 This matches my view of the match. Izzy had a couple rough periods where her location was just off. She needs more reps. They both do. Interesting that Sheff brought the two setters out for special praise after the match. Probably a good move. Interesting that the two setters are the two best servers so far. Izzy has really caught up again. Would be interesting to... on second thought, I'm not going to finish that sentence, because it seems like rob will spend hours doing whatever data manipulation I say because he can't help himself. |
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 2, 2022 21:39:09 GMT -5
Why is Demps such a bad blocker compared to other players her size? It’s really something I don’t understand. . She does offer up several opportunities for opposing teams to challenge a net violation and burn a challenge, so that's helpful! (twice so far, both super obvious it was just hair) Keep that up Demps! |
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 2, 2022 21:57:44 GMT -5
I was wondering if we'd get to see more of Wrobel as the match progressed. Demps just doesn't seem to fit the right side in a 6-2. Somehow, she has to get up quicker on her blocking. The demps/crawford/orzol front line is certainly small by badger standards. I give my mvp to floor towel guy against IL. He put in a week's worth of work in one afternoon. My guess is that we will begin to see Wrobel more and more as the season wears on. In attack, a lot of Demps' problems had to do with the setting, I think. Especially later in the match. The blocking though, that is something that should have been fixed by now. Girl is a proper athlete. No reason she should not do that really well by now. |
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Post by robtearle on Oct 2, 2022 22:23:02 GMT -5
I was wondering if we'd get to see more of Wrobel as the match progressed. Demps just doesn't seem to fit the right side in a 6-2. Somehow, she has to get up quicker on her blocking. The demps/crawford/orzol front line is certainly small by badger standards. I give my mvp to floor towel guy against IL. He put in a week's worth of work in one afternoon. My guess is that we will begin to see Wrobel more and more as the season wears on. In attack, a lot of Demps' problems had to do with the setting, I think. Especially later in the match. The blocking though, that is something that should have been fixed by now. Girl is a proper athlete. No reason she should not do that really well by now. It probably doesn't help that she's asked to sub it at left, and then at right, and then backrow, and then left again, etc etc. |
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Post by ndodge on Oct 2, 2022 22:32:37 GMT -5
They won a tough match, I just finished watching. Too much negativity on these threads for my mood right now  Setting was inconsistent, yes, but a lot of middle and RS kills, so passing and setting was good at times. I need to put dark tape in my laptop bag and put tape on the video player bar so I don't see the time left in the recording, that is very nerve wracking. I thought it might go five but wasn't sure, but UW's fairly quick closeout of set 4 and IL making short rallies with tons of errors made for a quick ending. |
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Post by buckyupbuttercup on Oct 3, 2022 7:47:54 GMT -5
My guess is that we will begin to see Wrobel more and more as the season wears on. In attack, a lot of Demps' problems had to do with the setting, I think. Especially later in the match. The blocking though, that is something that should have been fixed by now. Girl is a proper athlete. No reason she should not do that really well by now. It probably doesn't help that she's asked to sub it at left, and then at right, and then backrow, and then left again, etc etc. i'd agree it doesn't help. But, i think she has trended toward a utility player more because she doesn't block well, as opposed to, she doesn't block well because she has been pressed into utility duty. It was tough seeing her mircotip those balls, that were heading out, when she was still clearly on the way up. Hopefully, they can figure it out. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 3, 2022 12:19:02 GMT -5
It probably doesn't help that she's asked to sub it at left, and then at right, and then backrow, and then left again, etc etc. i'd agree it doesn't help. But, i think she has trended toward a utility player more because she doesn't block well, as opposed to, she doesn't block well because she has been pressed into utility duty. It was tough seeing her mircotip those balls, that were heading out, when she was still clearly on the way up. Hopefully, they can figure it out. Honestly, blocking-wise it's pretty stiff competition. All our middles block well including Devyn and Anna on the right (well, Smrek is only an okay blocker for her size, but when she doesn't have to move laterally she's an intimidating wall), and then you have Franklin (pretty good) and Orzol (excellent for her size) on the left. So to not block as well as them is not the same as not blocking well. It is, however, something (along with passing) that keeps Demps from being a major option as a starter. That being said, her versatility to play back row means that she's the best "6 rotation opposite" on the team (though Wrobel also seems to be an option here). This team in its best form needs her to be available late in sets when we run low on subs. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 3, 2022 12:59:56 GMT -5
i'd agree it doesn't help. But, i think she has trended toward a utility player more because she doesn't block well, as opposed to, she doesn't block well because she has been pressed into utility duty. It was tough seeing her mircotip those balls, that were heading out, when she was still clearly on the way up. Hopefully, they can figure it out. Honestly, blocking-wise it's pretty stiff competition. All our middles block well including Devyn and Anna on the right (well, Smrek is only an okay blocker for her size, but when she doesn't have to move laterally she's an intimidating wall), and then you have Franklin (pretty good) and Orzol (excellent for her size) on the left. So to not block as well as them is not the same as not blocking well. It is, however, something (along with passing) that keeps Demps from being a major option as a starter. That being said, her versatility to play back row means that she's the best "6 rotation opposite" on the team (though Wrobel also seems to be an option here). This team in its best form needs her to be available late in sets when we run low on subs. Demps has 0.26 blocks a set playing RS where most sets go. That is not a good number. She has 0 blocks in three sets against Penn State. 3 against Illinois with a freshman OH going off against her. |
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Post by robtearle on Oct 3, 2022 13:06:27 GMT -5
Honestly, blocking-wise it's pretty stiff competition. All our middles block well including Devyn and Anna on the right (well, Smrek is only an okay blocker for her size, but when she doesn't have to move laterally she's an intimidating wall), and then you have Franklin (pretty good) and Orzol (excellent for her size) on the left. So to not block as well as them is not the same as not blocking well. It is, however, something (along with passing) that keeps Demps from being a major option as a starter. That being said, her versatility to play back row means that she's the best "6 rotation opposite" on the team (though Wrobel also seems to be an option here). This team in its best form needs her to be available late in sets when we run low on subs. Demps has 0.26 blocks a set playing RS where most sets go. That is not a good number. She has 0 blocks in three sets against Penn State. 3 against Illinois with a freshman OH going off against her. Demps has 0.26 blocks per set. How much of that has been while "playing RS" would take some digging. Some of those sets were when she subbed in at the left side, and a couple of them were with her in the back row. Many were set when she did not play "full time". |
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 3, 2022 14:43:45 GMT -5
Demps has 0.26 blocks a set playing RS where most sets go. That is not a good number. She has 0 blocks in three sets against Penn State. 3 against Illinois with a freshman OH going off against her. Demps has 0.26 blocks per set. How much of that has been while "playing RS" would take some digging. Some of those sets were when she subbed in at the left side, and a couple of them were with her in the back row. Many were set when she did not play "full time". I would add that she had 3 blocks as starting sub for Smrek against Illinois. That's more than 0.67/set. Now to what degree that was down to the middles is a different question. I think she should be better on the block. I don't think is destined not to be better. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 3, 2022 15:30:47 GMT -5
Demps has 0.26 blocks a set playing RS where most sets go. That is not a good number. She has 0 blocks in three sets against Penn State. 3 against Illinois with a freshman OH going off against her. Demps has 0.26 blocks per set. How much of that has been while "playing RS" would take some digging. Some of those sets were when she subbed in at the left side, and a couple of them were with her in the back row. Many were set when she did not play "full time". Man, volleyball's statistical system needs to be Moneyballed. Blocks per set is a terrible statistic for players who aren't playing full time. A simple stat like "blocks per opposing team attempts" would be much better, and if the statistics taken were good enough then "blocks per block attempt" would be even better. Saying Demps has a bad blocks per set is like saying a bench player in basketball is a bad scorer because the number of points they score per game is less than the starter. She's subbed in late in many sets - of course she's not going to get a lot of blocks during those sets. |
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Post by mnwis20 on Oct 3, 2022 16:06:37 GMT -5
This might be way out there, but at least while Smrek is out, would they over run Franklin as a right side and put Demps or Wrobel in as a left? Franklin’s game has been solid since Florida and she’s passing and hitting well, but she’s also a couple inches taller and had at least one noticeable block on the right side before they switched during the Illinois match. Demps has some intangibles that have brought out some solid play from her (Marquette, Florida) where she’s got a decent serve and can hit a variety of shots, but doesn’t pose as much of a threat as a blocker. Not sure if they’d go that route at least til Smrek can come back in.
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Post by robtearle on Oct 3, 2022 16:21:55 GMT -5
This might be way out there, but at least while Smrek is out, would they over run Franklin as a right side and put Demps or Wrobel in as a left? Franklin’s game has been solid since Florida and she’s passing and hitting well, but she’s also a couple inches taller and had at least one noticeable block on the right side before they switched during the Illinois match. Demps has some intangibles that have brought out some solid play from her (Marquette, Florida) where she’s got a decent serve and can hit a variety of shots, but doesn’t pose as much of a threat as a blocker. Not sure if they’d go that route at least til Smrek can come back in. Sitting watching warmups Friday night with no Smrek, that idea ran through my mind, and had that happened Friday night, I wouldn't have been very surprised. But once it didn't happen Friday, I doubt it will; *maybe* after another weekend when Bramschreiber becomes available. Because putting Franklin on the right side means she subs out as part of the 6-2 sub pattern, and means Demps/Wrobel has to play backrow and serve-receive etc. With Bramschreiber available, she could be the backrow sub for left side Demps/Wrobel. But we don't get her for another two matches. If Smrek is still out then and the lack of right-side block is a problem, the idea might get re-consideration. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 3, 2022 16:24:02 GMT -5
This might be way out there, but at least while Smrek is out, would they over run Franklin as a right side and put Demps or Wrobel in as a left? Franklin’s game has been solid since Florida and she’s passing and hitting well, but she’s also a couple inches taller and had at least one noticeable block on the right side before they switched during the Illinois match. Demps has some intangibles that have brought out some solid play from her (Marquette, Florida) where she’s got a decent serve and can hit a variety of shots, but doesn’t pose as much of a threat as a blocker. Not sure if they’d go that route at least til Smrek can come back in. It might be something we see. I think Demps is better on the left as an attacker as well. But if the offense is forced to go through the left on OOS balls, how much does UW lose by having Demps instead of Franklin there for 3 rotations? Would be interesting to find out. |
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Setting was inconsistent, yes, but a lot of middle and RS kills, so passing and setting was good at times. I need to put dark tape in my laptop bag and put tape on the video player bar so I don't see the time left in the recording, that is very nerve wracking. I thought it might go five but wasn't sure, but UW's fairly quick closeout of set 4 and IL making short rallies with tons of errors made for a quick ending. 