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Post by beachgrad on Jan 15, 2022 13:17:56 GMT -5
LBSU WVB already adequately funds scholarships for out of state. The NCAA allows 12 scholarships and LBSU had 6 out of state and 1 international on last years roster. That is more than 50% at the higher coast so the funding was already there. The AD was not happy with the state of the program because the prior coach was already receiving the amount of funding to put a winning team on the court and it was not happening. Funding for scholarships is not a problem. Okay, thanks for the info. So sharing an assistant between programs is most likely not about money? No, Tyler Hildebrand wanted Nick MacRae and they found a way to make it happen. LBSU has always had a full allotment of paid coaches and the volleyball budget was increased across the board when Tyler was signed. This hire was made by the desire of the coaches and not funding.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 13:35:17 GMT -5
lol, I thought your posts showed that you took volleyball seriously, but appently you don't. haters gotta hate. LB gave Tyler what he wanted. McRae. Tyler wants McRae, and Knipe wants McRae. LB also stood to lose McRae. LB made it work, that's the definition of 'seriousness'. sheesh, move on dude LB will keep him in an upper tier salary. Now, will they pay him Texas or Nebrasks money? nope. If LB wins big, sure at some point someone might throw ridiculous money at him. It happened to BG, who decided to stay. If BG had gone to Texas, he'd probably have won 2-3 more titles. See what happens, you never know. It all depends on how much success, maybe he'll move on to the USA coach, but that's all so premature, first things first. THis is what this shows. LB wants to win, everybody wanted Tyler for this gig, and they got him, so that's being 'serious' Tyler has never been a head coach. Nick hasn't coached (except for 6 matches) or recruited in the juniors or women's game. What Tyler gets with Nick is familiarity, not a competitive edge. What Nick gets is a favorable positioning to advance in the more lucrative women's game. It's a win-win, but for whom? ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong.
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Post by Boom! on Jan 15, 2022 15:28:44 GMT -5
Tyler has never been a head coach. Nick hasn't coached (except for 6 matches) or recruited in the juniors or women's game. What Tyler gets with Nick is familiarity, not a competitive edge. What Nick gets is a favorable positioning to advance in the more lucrative women's game. It's a win-win, but for whom? ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong. LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already).
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 15, 2022 16:10:58 GMT -5
It doesn't work like that. NCAA determines how many scholarships each sport can give on a team. For example, I think women's volleyball is around 12 scholarships per team where men's volleyball is somewhere near 4.5. Saving money on coaches may mean more money from the department's budget for recruiting trips, team travel, uniforms, equipment, or other stuff like that but definitely won't go towards more scholarships for athletes. I know about the 12 scholarship limit, but I thought that not all programs have the same amount to give (like some cannot fund 12 full scholarships to give to out of state/country players). D1 does not allow splitting scholarships (e.g. player A gets half and player B gets half for a total of 1). I assume they do still allow you to simply give player A half a scholarship, even though it counts as 1 against your limit of 12. D2 *does* allow splitting scholarships, IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 16:17:45 GMT -5
lol, I thought your posts showed that you took volleyball seriously, but appently you don't. haters gotta hate. LB gave Tyler what he wanted. McRae. Tyler wants McRae, and Knipe wants McRae. LB also stood to lose McRae. LB made it work, that's the definition of 'seriousness'. sheesh, move on dude LB will keep him in an upper tier salary. Now, will they pay him Texas or Nebrasks money? nope. If LB wins big, sure at some point someone might throw ridiculous money at him. It happened to BG, who decided to stay. If BG had gone to Texas, he'd probably have won 2-3 more titles. See what happens, you never know. It all depends on how much success, maybe he'll move on to the USA coach, but that's all so premature, first things first. THis is what this shows. LB wants to win, everybody wanted Tyler for this gig, and they got him, so that's being 'serious' Tyler has never been a head coach. Nick hasn't coached (except for 6 matches) or recruited in the juniors or women's game. What Tyler gets with Nick is familiarity, not a competitive edge. What Nick gets is a favorable positioning to advance in the more lucrative women's game. It's a win-win, but for whom? Mmm mmm mmm! I like this post
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 16:20:41 GMT -5
ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong. LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). Wow! I mean I totally agree with this poster. Great analysis of the situation that isn’t based in fantasy yet isn’t cutting down the program, players and incoming staff. I take this as, let’s wait and see how this all plays out. So far, LBSU is making great moves but how that will translate into longevity and consistency remains to be seen
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Post by Sooners1822 on Jan 15, 2022 16:21:11 GMT -5
ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong. LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). Blind allegiance For what it’s worth I also think LB state will improve but it’s non sense to act this hire doesn’t have reasonable cause for concern. I’m not at all worried about the training, immediate in court product, but is this model of the ‘1 person for 2 full time jobs’ going to work beyond a couple years?
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Post by silverchloride on Jan 15, 2022 16:42:48 GMT -5
ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong. LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). Why would not a person be able to coach a Women's team and a Mens team? Are they not in disparate seasons?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 16:51:37 GMT -5
ok, that is your opinion. sure, everyone gets it, there's not a single coach on the staff that's been a head coach is there some unproven? yes. does it matter? well, put it this way, LB likely had a lot of qualified head coach applicants ranging from 1 to 20 years experience. now would hiring one of them been better? well, maybe, but we've seen in so many sports where head coaching experience doesn't mean everything, or sometimes anything. Tom Black was doing well at LMU, Georgia hired him, he's had some success, and will he last? who knows. so people can take all the 'pot-shots' at this (and yep like clockwork they sure are), but bottom line it's accomplishments, and how anyone could see what Tyler has done in one month is not stellar or super solid at worst would be beyond me. Is Tyler going to go thru some 'learning curve' differentiating between being a HC and assistance, such as demeaner, game time decisions. Yep, he's gonna get criticized and scrutinized from his fan base, cause yeah he's not going to go undefeated for the next 3 years, lol you asked who it's a win-win for? the University, the players, Tyler, Nick, .....I could go on and on. Could this not work out, sure, nothing is certain, but for all those that just want to nit-pick these decisions to death, well, have at it. LB was 10-10 in conference last year, I guarantee they'll be at least 15-5 at very worst, and frankly the expectations are much better than that from anyone associated with the program. I'd love all these nit-pickers to list what and who they would have picked as coaches, and if there would have been a chance in hades they could have done as good a job as LB has done in one month of recruiting players (retaining and transfers). So Bottom Line Scoreboard. LB 1, nit-pickers and nay-sayers 0. We'll be sure to keep you updated on the scoreboard. If Tyler can navigate the non-confernce, get some ranked wins, and gets on a roll in the Big West, I guarantee you'll see some sell-outs at the Pyramid come mid-October, if not earlier. There's your perception of reality, and then there's the volleyball world. The club stuff will take care of itself if Tyler wins. Charism sells, winning sells, and he and the staff have been on winning teams. So those that want to nit-pick all they want with their 'tunnel-vision' or 'rigid' view of 'how things are' are welcome to. Nothing better than proving skeptics wrong. LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). lol, ok, you are so knowledgeable! all you are saying is it can't be done, I while I wouldn't put trust in the AD on this, because yes he's done some idiotic things. I do put trust in Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae for knowing MUCH more than you, because there's no way this happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing. And the collective experience from them carries infinitely more weight than some blow-hard VT posters. They have the requistite college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections that far outweighs any concern you might have and I doubt you have a concern, and just trying to tear down something that's just starting. They know the club in and outs. Anyway you can spout off all you want about how some other poster doesn't know what you know, bfd, it doesn't mean you actually understand the context and reality more than those 3. LB 1, nit-pickers 0. Scoreboard baby. let the games begin!
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 17:00:45 GMT -5
LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). Blind allegiance For what it’s worth I also think LB state will improve but it’s non sense to act this hire doesn’t have reasonable cause for concern. I’m not at all worried about the training, immediate in court product, but is this model of the ‘1 person for 2 full time jobs’ going to work beyond a couple years? lol, blind ignorance is all that is you wrote yes, there's a concern. and yes, the staff's can manage the concern. LB has 3 programs, only a handful of universities have that, and yes the LB VB staffs (not the AD) understand better than some VT passers by. Have watched Knipe, Tyler, and NIck over the years, and they know how to run top tier VB. That constant improvement philosophy/mission from the men's program IS going to carry over to women's in every facet. THere's no reason to doubt that, despite that key challenge. The thing missing from the WVB program was a work your ass off mentality the last 5 years - that has changed instantly, and your 'volleyball world' apparently understands it because recruits came calling.
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Post by Boom! on Jan 15, 2022 17:53:27 GMT -5
LOL! So many words from you, so little substance or knowledge of the volleyball world. I fully expect Long Beach to do better next season than they have in the past few years, but that's because the team has under-performed mightily. The real issue is the long-term success and viability of the women's program at Long Beach. And if you, and that Gomer Pyle AD in charge of things there, think that having Nick split duties with the men's and women's team is the answer, I don't really need to say anything more about how little either one of you knows about volleyball (but we knew this already). lol, ok, you are so knowledgeable! all you are saying is it can't be done, I while I wouldn't put trust in the AD on this, because yes he's done some idiotic things. I do put trust in Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae for knowing MUCH more than you, because there's no way this happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing. And the collective experience from them carries infinitely more weight than some blow-hard VT posters. They have the requistite college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections that far outweighs any concern you might have and I doubt you have a concern, and just trying to tear down something that's just starting. They know the club in and outs. Anyway you can spout off all you want about how some other poster doesn't know what you know, bfd, it doesn't mean you actually understand the context and reality more than those 3. LB 1, nit-pickers 0. Scoreboard baby. let the games begin! You say, "there's no way it happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing." It happens because the AD--who doesn't know anything about volleyball--allows it to happen. And speaking of blow-hard VT posters, what do you know about volleyball? Perhaps you should ask yourself, why is the Men's Head Coach dictating what happens with the women's program? Isn't that what the AD is supposed to do (unless he does idiotic things)? All you are saying is that it can be done. Meanwhile, the previous coaches had the requistite [sic] college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections", and it didn't get done. They too were double-dipping with club and an on-going USAV gig. The men's and women's college games are different animals, in scale and complexity. But to a non like you, approaching them the same makes sense. And that is what the criticism is about, and not specifically about Hildebrand or McRae, or even Knipe, but that particular point deserves a conversation with someone more knowledgeable than you.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 18:02:48 GMT -5
lol, ok, you are so knowledgeable! all you are saying is it can't be done, I while I wouldn't put trust in the AD on this, because yes he's done some idiotic things. I do put trust in Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae for knowing MUCH more than you, because there's no way this happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing. And the collective experience from them carries infinitely more weight than some blow-hard VT posters. They have the requistite college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections that far outweighs any concern you might have and I doubt you have a concern, and just trying to tear down something that's just starting. They know the club in and outs. Anyway you can spout off all you want about how some other poster doesn't know what you know, bfd, it doesn't mean you actually understand the context and reality more than those 3. LB 1, nit-pickers 0. Scoreboard baby. let the games begin! You say, "there's no way it happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing." It happens because the AD--who doesn't know anything about volleyball--allows it to happen. And speaking of blow-hard VT posters, what do you know about volleyball? Perhaps you should ask yourself, why is the Men's Head Coach dictating what happens with the women's program? Isn't that what the AD is supposed to do (unless he does idiotic things)? All you are saying is that it can be done. Meanwhile, the previous coaches had the requistite [sic] college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections", and it didn't get done. They too were double-dipping with club and an on-going USAV gig. The men's and women's college games are different animals, in scale and complexity. But to a non like you, approaching them the same makes sense. And that is what the criticism is about, and not specifically about Hildebrand or McRae, or even Knipe, but that particular point deserves a conversation with someone more knowledgeable than you. lol, you keep putting things out of context. I didn't say mens and womens are the same. Sheesh. I love when VT posters get all accusatory mode, I get you want to blow this up out of proportion. Yes the men's program had an influence, a big influence. Who do you think the AD depended on. As to the prior arraingement, that just wasnt' solely the double duty. A lot of that was the simply the teaching (or lack thereof) going on. You keep making simplistic statements, well that's a you problem! Basically all you have is put-downs. Good for you!! Bottom line is I trust the judgement of Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae infinitely more than you. Has nothing to do with the AD. To it's logical conclusion, I trust they KNOW more than you, so smh. Is it a concern, yeah, of course. It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving' it won't work before they even do it, simply on the basis of that you are so 'in the know' lol. Bully for you!! Next December after the signing period you can come back and acknowlege the limitations of your own self assigned 'expertise'. Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine.
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Post by Sooners1822 on Jan 15, 2022 18:15:49 GMT -5
You say, "there's no way it happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing." It happens because the AD--who doesn't know anything about volleyball--allows it to happen. And speaking of blow-hard VT posters, what do you know about volleyball? Perhaps you should ask yourself, why is the Men's Head Coach dictating what happens with the women's program? Isn't that what the AD is supposed to do (unless he does idiotic things)? All you are saying is that it can be done. Meanwhile, the previous coaches had the requistite [sic] college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections", and it didn't get done. They too were double-dipping with club and an on-going USAV gig. The men's and women's college games are different animals, in scale and complexity. But to a non like you, approaching them the same makes sense. And that is what the criticism is about, and not specifically about Hildebrand or McRae, or even Knipe, but that particular point deserves a conversation with someone more knowledgeable than you. lol, you keep putting things out of context. I didn't say mens and womens are the same. Sheesh. I love when VT posters get all accusatory mode, I get you want to blow this up out of proportion. Yes the men's program had an influence, a big influence. Who do you think the AD depended on. As to the prior arraingement, that just wasnt' solely the double duty. A lot of that was the simply the teaching (or lack thereof) going on. You keep making simplistic statements, well that's a you problem! Basically all you have is put-downs. Good for you!! Bottom line is I trust the judgement of Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae infinitely more than you. Has nothing to do with the AD. To it's logical conclusion, I trust they KNOW more than you, so smh. Is it a concern, yeah, of course. It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving' it won't work before they even do it, simply on the basis of that you are so 'in the know' lol. Bully for you!! Next December after the signing period you can come back and acknowlege the limitations of your own self assigned 'expertise'. Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine. you post just like I’d expect a LB fan to post… BUT…I’m legit looking forward to LB getting back to national relevance and do believe Hildebrand has the ability/potential to get the program there. Just trying to have a realistic outlook that it is going to be a challenge with a staff makeup like that in terms of the McRae being stretched thin to do what other staffs can do without the additional strain of another program. I do not at all doubt his competency and ability, and I agree the few immediate transfers quickly bumps LB up in how competitive they’ll be. The mvb culture coming over to the womens side will def help.
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Post by Boom! on Jan 15, 2022 18:19:47 GMT -5
You say, "there's no way it happens unless those 3 understand what they are doing." It happens because the AD--who doesn't know anything about volleyball--allows it to happen. And speaking of blow-hard VT posters, what do you know about volleyball? Perhaps you should ask yourself, why is the Men's Head Coach dictating what happens with the women's program? Isn't that what the AD is supposed to do (unless he does idiotic things)? All you are saying is that it can be done. Meanwhile, the previous coaches had the requistite [sic] college, recruiting, USAV experience knowledge, ties, and connections", and it didn't get done. They too were double-dipping with club and an on-going USAV gig. The men's and women's college games are different animals, in scale and complexity. But to a non like you, approaching them the same makes sense. And that is what the criticism is about, and not specifically about Hildebrand or McRae, or even Knipe, but that particular point deserves a conversation with someone more knowledgeable than you. lol, you keep putting things out of context. I didn't say mens and womens are the same. Sheesh. I love when VT posters get all accusatory mode, I get you want to blow this up out of proportion. Yes the men's program had an influence, a big influence. Who do you think the AD depended on. * Yes, that was the pointAs to the prior arraingement, that just wasnt' solely the double duty. A lot of that was the simply the teaching (or lack thereof) going on. You keep making simplistic statements, well that's a you problem! Basically all you have is put-downs. * You make it so easy Good for you!! Bottom line is I trust the judgement of Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae infinitely more than you. Has nothing to do with the AD. To it's logical conclusion, I trust they KNOW more than you, so smh. Is it a concern, yeah, of course. * Way to whitewash! It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving' it won't work before they even do it, simply on the basis of that you are so 'in the know' lol. Bully for you!! Next December after the signing period you can come back and acknowlege the limitations of your own self assigned 'expertise'. Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine. "Has nothing to do with the AD" "I trust they KNOW more than you" "It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving" it won't work" "Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine." Remarkably, all of your arguments and assertions aptly apply to you. Projecting much? Or is that the voices in your head?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 18:32:06 GMT -5
lol, you keep putting things out of context. I didn't say mens and womens are the same. Sheesh. I love when VT posters get all accusatory mode, I get you want to blow this up out of proportion. Yes the men's program had an influence, a big influence. Who do you think the AD depended on. As to the prior arraingement, that just wasnt' solely the double duty. A lot of that was the simply the teaching (or lack thereof) going on. You keep making simplistic statements, well that's a you problem! Basically all you have is put-downs. Good for you!! Bottom line is I trust the judgement of Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae infinitely more than you. Has nothing to do with the AD. To it's logical conclusion, I trust they KNOW more than you, so smh. Is it a concern, yeah, of course. It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving' it won't work before they even do it, simply on the basis of that you are so 'in the know' lol. Bully for you!! Next December after the signing period you can come back and acknowlege the limitations of your own self assigned 'expertise'. Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine. you post just like I’d expect a LB fan to post… BUT…I’m legit looking forward to LB getting back to national relevance and do believe Hildebrand has the ability/potential to get the program there. Just trying to have a realistic outlook that it is going to be a challenge with a staff makeup like that in terms of the McRae being stretched thin to do what other staffs can do without the additional strain of another program. I do not at all doubt his competency and ability, and I agree the few immediate transfers quickly bumps LB up in how competitive they’ll be. The mvb culture coming over to the womens side will def help. yeah, agree with all that. Actually, I believe I post like an objective person who loves LB State would post, having observed the last 25 years, and endured the last 5 years. I just think some of the context on this challenge Nick faces are overblown. Yeah, it's a challenge, yes it's real, of course the 3 have discussed how they'll mitigate that. Can the challenges be mitigated? Given the staff they have in place, I have a lot of confidence. Some of these posters just act like 'it can't be done, because they 'know' volleyball and they 'know 'it can't be done' lol. and that's a bunch of BS. one of the biggest challenges might actually be on the men's side, cause the fall training for men is much more extensive than spring training for women. However, Knipe has always had such a well organized and deep staff for years. I would also say there's no going back, they are gonna give McRae a big bump in salary for this, he's not gonna want to go backwards, no matter how difficult he finds the challenge. But with this they have also probably bumped him in the range of a lot of other HC gigs, so they've made it so that this is almost like having 3 HCs across two programs. Some of these other nit-wits on VT can't seem to digest that and that there is some real upsides to this. And yes, there will be some challenges with this.
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