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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 18:35:50 GMT -5
lol, you keep putting things out of context. I didn't say mens and womens are the same. Sheesh. I love when VT posters get all accusatory mode, I get you want to blow this up out of proportion. Yes the men's program had an influence, a big influence. Who do you think the AD depended on. * Yes, that was the pointAs to the prior arraingement, that just wasnt' solely the double duty. A lot of that was the simply the teaching (or lack thereof) going on. You keep making simplistic statements, well that's a you problem! Basically all you have is put-downs. * You make it so easy Good for you!! Bottom line is I trust the judgement of Knipe, Hildebrand, and McRae infinitely more than you. Has nothing to do with the AD. To it's logical conclusion, I trust they KNOW more than you, so smh. Is it a concern, yeah, of course. * Way to whitewash! It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving' it won't work before they even do it, simply on the basis of that you are so 'in the know' lol. Bully for you!! Next December after the signing period you can come back and acknowlege the limitations of your own self assigned 'expertise'. Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine. "Has nothing to do with the AD" "I trust they KNOW more than you" "It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving" it won't work" "Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine." Remarkably, all of your arguments and assertions aptly apply to you. Projecting much? Or is that the voices in your head? yep, as expected, more putdowns!!! voices in your head? lol, good one!!
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Post by dodger on Jan 15, 2022 19:01:44 GMT -5
"Has nothing to do with the AD" "I trust they KNOW more than you" "It's like you are so enthralled with 'Proving" it won't work" "Until then, keep up with the blowhard routine." Remarkably, all of your arguments and assertions aptly apply to you. Projecting much? Or is that the voices in your head? yep, as expected, more putdowns!!! voices in your head? lol, good one!! I dont know what started your debate but this (sharing assistant) is usually done because of lack of resources. But in their conference maybe it isn’t issue: but the staffs in P5 and this conference maybe not fair comparison
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 19:22:29 GMT -5
yep, as expected, more putdowns!!! voices in your head? lol, good one!! I dont know what started your debate but this (sharing assistant) is usually done because of lack of resources. But in their conference maybe it isn’t issue: but the staffs in P5 and this conference maybe not fair comparison ok, and that doesn't mean that that is the rationale in this case. as to P5 conferences, well, how relevent is it really with P5, because only UCLA, USC, Stanford, Ohio State, and Penn State sponsor both men's and women's volleyball from the P5s. not much of a sample size. my point is it's a challenge, and some of these posts just make it out like the it's some major issue that's a show-stopper.
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Post by Wiswell on Jan 15, 2022 20:21:23 GMT -5
This thread about a mid major appointment is 37 pages.
Meanwhile, PSU periodically drops off page 1. This board is odd.
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Post by vbdiva2 on Jan 15, 2022 20:49:45 GMT -5
Meow…. All these shady queens going back and forth like LB St and Tyler have done anything! Simmmmmma down
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jan 15, 2022 20:52:24 GMT -5
This thread about a mid major appointment is 37 pages. Meanwhile, PSU periodically drops off page 1. This board is odd. Mid-major, true, but with very high name recognition - both school and new coach. Combine the two and, voilà! 30 pages of fun, or something,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 20:54:17 GMT -5
Meow…. All these shady queens going back and forth like LB St and Tyler have done anything! Simmmmmma down 😂😂😂 ma’am!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 20:55:29 GMT -5
I dont know what started your debate but this (sharing assistant) is usually done because of lack of resources. But in their conference maybe it isn’t issue: but the staffs in P5 and this conference maybe not fair comparison ok, and that doesn't mean that that is the rationale in this case. as to P5 conferences, well, how relevent is it really with P5, because only UCLA, USC, Stanford, Ohio State, and Penn State sponsor both men's and women's volleyball from the P5s. not much of a sample size. my point is it's a challenge, and some of these posts just make it out like the it's some major issue that's a show-stopper. Great point about the P5 comparison not really being a thing
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Post by eazy on Jan 15, 2022 21:31:01 GMT -5
This thread about a mid major appointment is 37 pages. Meanwhile, PSU periodically drops off page 1. This board is odd. Mid-major, true, but with very high name recognition - both school and new coach. Combine the two and, voilà! 30 pages of fun, or something, It seems like the majority of the recent pages are 1 fanatic taking on anyone that wants to question the value of 1 assistant coach being responsible for two teams. If that fanatic forgot to log in one day, this thread would be on page 10 I’d guess.
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Post by Boom! on Jan 15, 2022 22:04:57 GMT -5
you post just like I’d expect a LB fan to post… BUT…I’m legit looking forward to LB getting back to national relevance and do believe Hildebrand has the ability/potential to get the program there. Just trying to have a realistic outlook that it is going to be a challenge with a staff makeup like that in terms of the McRae being stretched thin to do what other staffs can do without the additional strain of another program. I do not at all doubt his competency and ability, and I agree the few immediate transfers quickly bumps LB up in how competitive they’ll be. The mvb culture coming over to the womens side will def help. yeah, agree with all that. Actually, I believe I post like an objective person who loves LB State would post, having observed the last 25 years, and endured the last 5 years. I just think some of the context on this challenge Nick faces are overblown. Yeah, it's a challenge, yes it's real, of course the 3 have discussed how they'll mitigate that. Can the challenges be mitigated? Given the staff they have in place, I have a lot of confidence. Some of these posters just act like 'it can't be done, because they 'know' volleyball and they 'know 'it can't be done' lol. and that's a bunch of BS. one of the biggest challenges might actually be on the men's side, cause the fall training for men is much more extensive than spring training for women. However, Knipe has always had such a well organized and deep staff for years. I would also say there's no going back, they are gonna give McRae a big bump in salary for this, he's not gonna want to go backwards, no matter how difficult he finds the challenge. But with this they have also probably bumped him in the range of a lot of other HC gigs, so they've made it so that this is almost like having 3 HCs across two programs. Some of these other nit-wits on VT can't seem to digest that and that there is some real upsides to this. And yes, there will be some challenges with this. The assistant coaches are in faculty positions, so it's unlikely that they can give him a "big bump in salary" comparable to other head coach gigs because his salary range spans 5 steps with approximately 5% step increases, and he's likely at or near the top of that anyway. As a state employee, he can't occupy two full time positions at the same time. The most that they can do is give him an additional time-base appointment which maxes out at .25 of a position, or in other words, 1.25 of his position, but that is usually restricted to duties outside of his normal ones. It may be possible to provide some compensation from an auxiliary source such as the Foundation, but that's usually reserved for head coaches (most often those who are in management, not faculty, positions. Head coaches in management positions are those who directly supervise two full time (paid) assistants). Your arguments keep getting more ridiculous. Why would one need or want 3 head coaches across two sports?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 15, 2022 22:20:37 GMT -5
yeah, agree with all that. Actually, I believe I post like an objective person who loves LB State would post, having observed the last 25 years, and endured the last 5 years. I just think some of the context on this challenge Nick faces are overblown. Yeah, it's a challenge, yes it's real, of course the 3 have discussed how they'll mitigate that. Can the challenges be mitigated? Given the staff they have in place, I have a lot of confidence. Some of these posters just act like 'it can't be done, because they 'know' volleyball and they 'know 'it can't be done' lol. and that's a bunch of BS. one of the biggest challenges might actually be on the men's side, cause the fall training for men is much more extensive than spring training for women. However, Knipe has always had such a well organized and deep staff for years. I would also say there's no going back, they are gonna give McRae a big bump in salary for this, he's not gonna want to go backwards, no matter how difficult he finds the challenge. But with this they have also probably bumped him in the range of a lot of other HC gigs, so they've made it so that this is almost like having 3 HCs across two programs. Some of these other nit-wits on VT can't seem to digest that and that there is some real upsides to this. And yes, there will be some challenges with this. The assistant coaches are in faculty positions, so it's unlikely that they can give him a "big bump in salary" comparable to other head coach gigs because his salary range spans 5 steps with approximately 5% step increases, and he's likely at or near the top of that anyway. As a state employee, he can't occupy two full time positions at the same time. The most that they can do is give him an additional time-base appointment which maxes out at .25 of a position, or in other words, 1.25 of his position, but that is usually restricted to duties outside of his normal ones. It may be possible to provide some compensation from an auxiliary source such as the Foundation, but that's usually reserved for head coaches (most often those who are in management, not faculty, positions. Head coaches in management positions are those who directly supervise two full time (paid) assistants). Your arguments keep getting more ridiculous. Why would one need or want 3 head coaches across two sports? lol, I didn't say they actually have 3 HCs, I indicated they essentially have (or practically, or effectively..) 3 HC types. I already explained, it's also a way to retain McRae should he get offers, with the dual role and extra pay (what exactly is it , you or I don't exactly know, why don't you go ahead and do a public records request). Not sure why you are trying to be so obtuse, but whatever. Given that they'd pay an Associate normally 75k range guesstimate, but who knows), I'd be surprised if his total increase was just 25%, likely 40-50% or thereabouts, otherwise there'd be little incentive for him for that type of role. ADs can get creative. You can dis-believe or doubt as much as you want. Basically what is to be gleamed from your post is you have NO clue what he got bumped to, and yeah, I don't know the exact number either. Bottom line for the umpteenth time is yes, it's a challenge, and yes, it's workable. But if you feel you know better, knock yourself out, insults and all!
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Post by gobruins on Jan 16, 2022 8:11:54 GMT -5
I thought LBS was starting to take VB seriously again with Hildebrand's hiring. But, this shows they obviously aren't. If Tyler has a little bit of success, I fully expect he will move on when a "bigger" (and better funded) program comes calling. lol, I thought your posts showed that you took volleyball seriously, but appently you don't. haters gotta hate. LB gave Tyler what he wanted. McRae. Tyler wants McRae, and Knipe wants McRae. LB also stood to lose McRae. LB made it work, that's the definition of 'seriousness'. sheesh, move on dude LB will keep him in an upper tier salary. Now, will they pay him Texas or Nebrasks money? nope. If LB wins big, sure at some point someone might throw ridiculous money at him. It happened to BG, who decided to stay. If BG had gone to Texas, he'd probably have won 2-3 more titles. See what happens, you never know. It all depends on how much success, maybe he'll move on to the USA coach, but that's all so premature, first things first. THis is what this shows. LB wants to win, everybody wanted Tyler for this gig, and they got him, so that's being 'serious' Every time I read your posts trying to defend this ridiculous situation, I am reminded of the phrase "whistling past the graveyard".
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 16, 2022 9:23:42 GMT -5
lol, I thought your posts showed that you took volleyball seriously, but appently you don't. haters gotta hate. LB gave Tyler what he wanted. McRae. Tyler wants McRae, and Knipe wants McRae. LB also stood to lose McRae. LB made it work, that's the definition of 'seriousness'. sheesh, move on dude LB will keep him in an upper tier salary. Now, will they pay him Texas or Nebrasks money? nope. If LB wins big, sure at some point someone might throw ridiculous money at him. It happened to BG, who decided to stay. If BG had gone to Texas, he'd probably have won 2-3 more titles. See what happens, you never know. It all depends on how much success, maybe he'll move on to the USA coach, but that's all so premature, first things first. THis is what this shows. LB wants to win, everybody wanted Tyler for this gig, and they got him, so that's being 'serious' Every time I read your posts trying to defend this ridiculous situation, I am reminded of the phrase "whistling past the graveyard". everytime a read these posts, I think of 'much ado about nothing' - slobruins = hyperbole someone needs to look up ridiculous in the dictionary to learn the meaning of the word
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Post by vbcoltrane on Jan 16, 2022 17:41:32 GMT -5
If LBSU didn't have an opening and therefore he never left Neb, do you think he would have been a candidate for MSU?
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 16, 2022 17:57:08 GMT -5
If LBSU didn't have an opening and therefore he never left Neb, do you think he would have been a candidate for MSU? He would have been a great candidate for any job.
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