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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 13, 2022 17:15:24 GMT -5
How does this nonconference set them up? absolutely horribly. most of those teams are so bad that even just by PLAYING THEM it will hurt our RPI (win or loss). not a single great, or even really good team, outside of UNC, on there. and we’ll lose at least one or more of them still, which will hurt our RPI even worse. I believe UNC and UTEP are the only schools even ranked inside the top 100. I’m just not sure how a team is supposed to get better when they spend almost all of non-con playing down to subpar teams:/
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Post by JJVb on Jul 13, 2022 17:21:50 GMT -5
How does this nonconference set them up? absolutely horribly. most of those teams are so bad that even just by PLAYING THEM it will hurt our RPI (win or loss). not a single great, or even really good team, outside of UNC, on there. and we’ll lose at least one or more of them still, which will hurt our RPI even worse. I believe UNC and UTEP are the only schools even ranked inside the top 100. I’m just not sure how a team is supposed to get better when they spend almost all of non-con playing down to subpar teams:/ Oh bummer. Not sure why they approached the schedule this way. Maybe Rubio feels the team needs more time to grow into consistency and confidence.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 13, 2022 17:34:19 GMT -5
absolutely horribly. most of those teams are so bad that even just by PLAYING THEM it will hurt our RPI (win or loss). not a single great, or even really good team, outside of UNC, on there. and we’ll lose at least one or more of them still, which will hurt our RPI even worse. I believe UNC and UTEP are the only schools even ranked inside the top 100. I’m just not sure how a team is supposed to get better when they spend almost all of non-con playing down to subpar teams:/ Oh bummer. Not sure why they approached the schedule this way. Maybe Rubio feels the team needs more time to grow into consistency and confidence. our best non-con performance was against TEXAS last season. I thought that would be some encouragement to get a couple good teams on the schedule. I guess since we followed that Texas game up with a stinker against Notre Dame he was like nahhh lol
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 13, 2022 17:40:52 GMT -5
How does this nonconference set them up? absolutely horribly. most of those teams are so bad that even just by PLAYING THEM it will hurt our RPI (win or loss). not a single great, or even really good team, outside of UNC, on there. and we’ll lose at least one or more of them still, which will hurt our RPI even worse. I believe UNC and UTEP are the only schools even ranked inside the top 100. I’m just not sure how a team is supposed to get better when they spend almost all of non-con playing down to subpar teams:/ Yeah, not a lot of quality win opportunities out of conference. I think it might be just North Carolina. It's not that much different than last year's schedule. Texas is an obvious exception, but there were no other top 25 teams on their non-conference schedule, and the only other top 50 team at the time of selection was Notre Dame (UNLV and UTEP were both in the top 50 of the final RPI, but that's because both advanced deep into the volleyball version of the NIT, and UNLV won the entire tournament--those extra wins skewed their final RPI numbers). Arizona will need to do well in conference.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 13, 2022 19:17:36 GMT -5
Well the committee letting Ole Miss in last year means they truly don’t care about Non-Con SOS anymore. Surely they won’t act inconsistently in precisely a way that screws a West Coast team. /s
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 19:38:01 GMT -5
Utah will probably end up being better than many think.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 13, 2022 19:44:58 GMT -5
Utah will probably end up being better than many think. could you give a quick rundown on why you think that? I genuinely just don’t know who’s gonna be playing other than Robinson. they’ve kinda been my biggest question mark when I try and think about how the conference will shake out
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 13, 2022 21:21:49 GMT -5
Utah will probably end up being better than many think. could you give a quick rundown on why you think that? I genuinely just don’t know who’s gonna be playing other than Robinson. they’ve kinda been my biggest question mark when I try and think about how the conference will shake out Because they almost always are? It's almost like Beth knows what she is doing.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 13, 2022 22:06:43 GMT -5
could you give a quick rundown on why you think that? I genuinely just don’t know who’s gonna be playing other than Robinson. they’ve kinda been my biggest question mark when I try and think about how the conference will shake out Because they almost always are? It's almost like Beth knows what she is doing. the way you answered makes me think you thought I had some sort of doubting or malicious intent in asking. I genuinely just don’t keep up too much with Utah volleyball, but I know they lost Drews and Weatherington (over half their swings I think, granted Drews was like all of them) and their starting setter. Wasn’t sure what they had brought in in the way of transfers/returners/freshmen.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 13, 2022 22:37:28 GMT -5
Because they almost always are? It's almost like Beth knows what she is doing. the way you answered makes me think you thought I had some sort of doubting or malicious intent in asking. I genuinely just don’t keep up too much with Utah volleyball, but I know they lost Drews and Weatherington (over half their swings I think, granted Drews was like all of them) and their starting setter. Wasn’t sure what they had brought in in the way of transfers/returners/freshmen. No, I didn't think you were malicious and I didn't mean to sound condescending. I don't know what they have, I just know they seem to have a knack for developing players that seemingly come from nowhere. I mean, Dani Drews wasn't Dani Drews before she got to Utah. (literally and figuratively, since she not only was the #41 Senior ace, but she was Dani Barton!). Kenzie Koerber wasn't even a top 100 SA. I don't know how, but they always seem to be at least alright. Maybe this time will be different, but I am not betting on it.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Jul 13, 2022 22:41:31 GMT -5
Utah: No Drews OH (5.77 pts/s), no Weatherington OH (2.84), no Evans MB (1.78), no Grace (1.50). No Jankiewicz S (10.55 asst/s). Returning: Robinson OH (3.49 pts/s), Van Der Werff MB (2.52), Olsen MB (1.78). Smith S/DS (4.12 asst/s). Four freshmen. Two transfers: Jardine OH (Wisconsin) - #15 PrepVolleyball Top 150; Hammond S (Rhode Island) - 6'2".
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 13, 2022 22:42:11 GMT -5
could you give a quick rundown on why you think that? I genuinely just don’t know who’s gonna be playing other than Robinson. they’ve kinda been my biggest question mark when I try and think about how the conference will shake out Because they almost always are? It's almost like Beth knows what she is doing. We’re like 14 months removed from a season where Utah was significantly worse than expected.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 13, 2022 22:51:01 GMT -5
Because they almost always are? It's almost like Beth knows what she is doing. We’re like 14 months removed from a season where Utah was significantly worse than expected. I completely disagree. They were considered a one trick pony without koerber and picked to finish 7th in the Pac and were 19th in the initial AVCA poll. They actually finished 3rd in the Pac and 18th in the final AVCA poll. How exactly is that "significantly worse than expected"? Edit: Sorry, were you talking about the bizarre Spring season and not last fall? That counts how?
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 13, 2022 22:52:04 GMT -5
We’re like 14 months removed from a season where Utah was significantly worse than expected. I completely disagree. They were considered a one trick pony without koerber and picked to finish 7th in the Pac and were 19th in the initial AVCA poll. They actually finished 3rd in the Pac and 18th in the final AVCA poll. How exactly is that "significantly worse than expected"? He said 14 months ago (spring season )
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 13, 2022 22:54:50 GMT -5
We’re like 14 months removed from a season where Utah was significantly worse than expected. I completely disagree. They were considered a one trick pony without koerber and picked to finish 7th in the Pac and were 19th in the initial AVCA poll. They actually finished 3rd in the Pac and 18th in the final AVCA poll. How exactly is that "significantly worse than expected"? Edit: Sorry, were you talking about the bizarre Spring season and not last fall? That counts how? Because it was a season they played where they massively underperformed (hence the low expectations coming into last year). You can't claim credit for overachieving when you've set low expectations by failing.
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