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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 4, 2022 8:56:45 GMT -5
um because North Carolina has been a better team for like years? How was that one surprising Arizona couldn't serve or serve receive. Clean up the service errors and they win that match. I expected them to lose coming into the season. Thought it would be close after UNC's first week. And it was extremely close, but Arizona has to fix the serve if it wants to win on the road vs any decent P5 team. I wouldn't call 13 service errors in a 5-setter problematic. UNC had more aces than UA had service errors - THAT'S a problem. |
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Post by tomclen on Sept 4, 2022 9:26:30 GMT -5
Well, we had our chances to help our non conference RPI but still lackluster, overall. Still two more weeks to right the ship but the window is closing very fast. I see USC is still swimming in the pool that is mediocrity. And why is Arizona losing to UNC… Oregon State over Houston would have been nice, as would have been Utah over Purdue… both went 5. USC VB still hasn't recovered from the inept and idiotic firing of Mick Haley. The athletic department has shown by their incessant corruption that they must not get any oversight from the university itself. The good news is, USC has led the revolt from the PAC and will be forever seen as the pivotal institution that turned NCAA sports into an even more debased money machine and thereby paved the way for a small handful of schools (Alabama, Auburn, OSU, Clemson, Georgia) to share the football title for the next quarter century. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2022 9:42:53 GMT -5
How they handled Haley’s firing was surely wrong, but let’s not pretend he was consistently holding up the pride of the PAC. He was in a decline, that much was pretty clear. We all know Keller can recruit, the question now is can he coach. Still very early in that assessment, but a 15-15 record last year isn’t a good starting point, and so far this season it doesn’t look exceptionally promising.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 4, 2022 9:44:41 GMT -5
um because North Carolina has been a better team for like years? How was that one surprising Ummmm if you say so 🤔 can confirm, UNC has taken a sharp nose dive the last 4-5 seasons. They look awful. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2022 9:49:48 GMT -5
can confirm, UNC has taken a sharp nose dive the last 4-5 seasons. They look awful. Right. I mean, awful is probably a stretch, and I’m not saying Arizona is some dominant team, but there isn’t much to suggest that UNC beating Arizona should be a given or that they have been the better team for years. Arizona is talented and rather experienced, UNC is pretty young this year… it’s not like Arizona was playing Nebraska or something 🤣 |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 4, 2022 9:53:05 GMT -5
can confirm, UNC has taken a sharp nose dive the last 4-5 seasons. They look awful. Right. I mean, awful is probably a stretch, and I’m not saying Arizona is some dominant team, but there isn’t much to suggest that UNC beating Arizona should be a given or that they have been the better team for years. Arizona is talented and rather experienced, UNC is pretty young this year… it’s not like Arizona was playing Nebraska or something 🤣 yeah, awful was probably a bit mean. 2-3 years ago they were awful. Looking a lot better now with Shaffmaster taking 90 swings a match. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 9:53:48 GMT -5
can confirm, UNC has taken a sharp nose dive the last 4-5 seasons. They look awful. Right. I mean, awful is probably a stretch, and I’m not saying Arizona is some dominant team, but there isn’t much to suggest that UNC beating Arizona should be a given or that they have been the better team for years. Arizona is talented and rather experienced, UNC is pretty young this year… it’s not like Arizona was playing Nebraska or something 🤣 UNC had a good season last year in a stacked ACC and made the tournament. I’m gonna stand behind my claim that Arizona losing to UNC isn’t a surprise |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2022 10:13:05 GMT -5
Right. I mean, awful is probably a stretch, and I’m not saying Arizona is some dominant team, but there isn’t much to suggest that UNC beating Arizona should be a given or that they have been the better team for years. Arizona is talented and rather experienced, UNC is pretty young this year… it’s not like Arizona was playing Nebraska or something 🤣 UNC had a good season last year in a stacked ACC and made the tournament. I’m gonna stand behind my claim that Arizona losing to UNC isn’t a surprise UNC played in the ACC, they didn't win a single match against any other tournament ACC team on the year and promptly exited the tournament in the 1st round. to end the year, Pablo rated both UNC and Arizona the same. UNC turned over a few players, Arizona remained intact. I don't think the expectation was that UNC should win, but I digress. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2022 10:41:25 GMT -5
How they handled Haley’s firing was surely wrong, but let’s not pretend he was consistently holding up the pride of the PAC. He was in a decline, that much was pretty clear. We all know Keller can recruit, the question now is can he coach. Still very early in that assessment, but a 15-15 record last year isn’t a good starting point, and so far this season it doesn’t look exceptionally promising. Two of the last three years of Mick’s coaching legacy brought USC within a couple points of making the Final Four - 2015 & 2017. Not too shabby. But Donna Heinel. Donna, Donna, Donna… (Whatever happened to her March 11, 2022 scheduled sentencing to pleading guilty?) and in 2014 they were 15-15 and in 2016 they were 18-14 with a 1st round loss...and those rosters were stacked. I feel bad for the way USC handled Mick, but I don't blame USC for wanting more consistency. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 4, 2022 11:12:26 GMT -5
and in 2014 they were 15-15 and in 2016 they were 18-14 with a 1st round loss...and those rosters were stacked. I feel bad for the way USC handled Mick, but I don't blame USC for wanting more consistency. 2016 brought in freshmen Lanier and Botkin. Being their first year, I think we can be a little lenient. And Abercrombie really didn’t shine until 2017. Stacked? Hhhmmmmm….. So not much of a decline his last few years. I mean, you can rationalize that both ways. Should it not be a ding against Mick that Abercrombie, a top 5 recruit, didn't "shine" until her 5th year? that team also had a senior Ruddins, who was the #2 recruit in her year. Ford, Dunn were top 25 recruits and not freshmen. USC returned their setting and their libero. Lanier was a freshmen, yes, but she was also the #1 recruit (Botkin wasn't a 2016, she was a 2017 recruit). I mean, that's pretty stacked compared to most rosters. Perhaps not Stanford, Penn State, or Texas but certainly good enough not to have 14 losses.  |
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Post by kimdc on Sept 5, 2022 0:14:45 GMT -5
Arizona couldn't serve or serve receive. Clean up the service errors and they win that match. I expected them to lose coming into the season. Thought it would be close after UNC's first week. And it was extremely close, but Arizona has to fix the serve if it wants to win on the road vs any decent P5 team. I wouldn't call 13 service errors in a 5-setter problematic. UNC had more aces than UA had service errors - THAT'S a problem. It was a problem when it's literally the point of emphasis this season. Anyone who has talked to Rubio knows cutting down on the serve errors is one of his biggest concerns. 13 serve errors against 5 aces when it's one of the primary things you are working on is a problem. It's an even bigger problem when two of the players you count on to be strongest back there have 7 errors and 0 aces--and one of them is literally only on the floor right now because of her serve. The errors in all parts of the game have hurt Arizona the past few years, but the serve errors are probably one of the easier ones to clean up. Serve receive was not better, though. UNC got a couple of cheap aces with it dribbling over the net, but that's not what gave them a +4 in aces vs errors--and that wasn't even the only problem. |
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Post by vbfamily on Sept 5, 2022 1:21:27 GMT -5
Glad UCLA made that 7-point run in the 4th down 18-23 to extend to the 5th and win at Hawaii! It wasn't looking good. Yay Bruins! Charitie Luper with 17 kills (17-2-33) hitting .455 from the pin in her 2022 debut is insane.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 11:15:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't call 13 service errors in a 5-setter problematic. UNC had more aces than UA had service errors - THAT'S a problem. It was a problem when it's literally the point of emphasis this season. Anyone who has talked to Rubio knows cutting down on the serve errors is one of his biggest concerns. 13 serve errors against 5 aces when it's one of the primary things you are working on is a problem. It's an even bigger problem when two of the players you count on to be strongest back there have 7 errors and 0 aces--and one of them is literally only on the floor right now because of her serve. The errors in all parts of the game have hurt Arizona the past few years, but the serve errors are probably one of the easier ones to clean up. Serve receive was not better, though. UNC got a couple of cheap aces with it dribbling over the net, but that's not what gave them a +4 in aces vs errors--and that wasn't even the only problem. 13 errors to 5 aces in 5 sets is not bad |
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Post by vollectator on Sept 5, 2022 11:24:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't call 13 service errors in a 5-setter problematic. UNC had more aces than UA had service errors - THAT'S a problem. It was a problem when it's literally the point of emphasis this season. Anyone who has talked to Rubio knows cutting down on the serve errors is one of his biggest concerns. 13 serve errors against 5 aces when it's one of the primary things you are working on is a problem. It's an even bigger problem when two of the players you count on to be strongest back there have 7 errors and 0 aces--and one of them is literally only on the floor right now because of her serve. The errors in all parts of the game have hurt Arizona the past few years, but the serve errors are probably one of the easier ones to clean up. Serve receive was not better, though. UNC got a couple of cheap aces with it dribbling over the net, but that's not what gave them a +4 in aces vs errors--and that wasn't even the only problem. When you stress serving tough, serving errors are more or less an inevitable by-product. There’s a balance, of course. The 5-13 or even the 0-7 ratio doesn’t tell the whole story in any event because you don’t see in those stat lines how many serves led to bad first touches and unsuccessful sideouts. |
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Post by JJVb on Sept 5, 2022 17:13:22 GMT -5
Congrats players!
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