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Post by JJVb on Sept 16, 2022 2:35:25 GMT -5
Bad news for Utah/PAC-12, no Robinson for the BYU match tonight. Yep. Despite that Utes played them very close, but 3 true freshmen on the court for the Utes is not ideal. Could cause them a struggle vs. Utah state too. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 16, 2022 14:57:36 GMT -5
ASU 🙄
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Post by JJVb on Sept 18, 2022 22:25:31 GMT -5
Can we talk about PAC play starting, and how teams will do?
This is how I'm grouping them at this point. Ya'll agree?
Group 1: Standford, Ducks, Huskies
Group 2: Colorado, Utah, USC, WSU
Group 3: UCLA, AZ, ASU, Oregon State, CAL
Stan and Ducks are playing very well. Stan has gotten some big wins. Ducks pushed top teams, and are strong in every area. Huskies are slightly behind due to some up and down play and Bays was out last weekend, but they are strong enough to beat most teams in the PAC.
COL is playing well this season so far, but will be interesting to see how they match up vs. PAC teams. Utes have battled hard, even with Robinson out the last two matches. Their freshmen are stepping up. WSU is down 1 and now possibly two middles, but they still have a lot of strong pieces. USC some might argue are not in this group, but they have a lot of weapons. Serve receive will be their downfall against strong serving teams.
UCLA are worse than anticipated. Without Luper, they will lose a lot. With Luper, they can get into the middle group. AZ hasn't really tested themselves against tougher competition. Their pin hitters are very up and down. ASU is similar. Pins are not consistent from match to match, but they can turn a match around and go 5, so you can't expect them to go away in a match. Oregon State is playing stronger than last year. With Izzy playing all around, they are finding their groove. They struggle in defense, and some matches their hitting efficiency is poor. Same goes for CAL. Grote is carrying the team in most wins, but their serve receive and hitting efficiency really struggles at times.
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Post by jwvolley on Sept 18, 2022 22:28:02 GMT -5
Do we have any info on Forte? Is she just out indefinitely or?
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Sept 18, 2022 23:01:07 GMT -5
Can we talk about PAC play starting, and how teams will do? WSU and OSU will do better than you think. USC is a puzzle. Oregon is the team to beat |
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Sept 18, 2022 23:01:21 GMT -5
Can we talk about PAC play starting, and how teams will do? This is how I'm grouping them at this point. Ya'll agree? Group 1: Standford, Ducks, Huskies Group 2: Colorado, Utah, USC, WSU Group 3: UCLA, AZ, ASU, Oregon State, CAL Stan and Ducks are playing very well. Stan has gotten some big wins. Ducks pushed top teams, and are strong in every area. Huskies are slightly behind due to some up and down play and Bays was out last weekend, but they are strong enough to beat most teams in the PAC. Having watched the top 3 squads multiple times, I will rate...barring crippling injuries...Stanford 1A, UO 1B and UW 3 (at least until their injured return). SU *should* get a seed; the Ducks are one player/ slightly "off"; UDub is solid-if-not-spectacular, IMO. A down year for the entire conference overall. |
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Post by baytree on Sept 19, 2022 0:04:54 GMT -5
WSU is down 1 and now possibly two middles, but they still have a lot of strong pieces. USC some might argue are not in this group, but they have a lot of weapons. Serve receive will be their downfall against strong serving teams. They struggle in defense, and some matches their hitting efficiency is poor. Same goes for CAL. Grote is carrying the team in most wins, but their serve receive and hitting efficiency really struggles at times. I generally agree with what you said. Good summary.
Does anyone know the situation with Jasmine Martin? Is Rubright out for the whole season?
I thought USC would be really good this season but they haven't been so far. They still have potential but, since I haven't seen that realized, I agree that they're in the middle for now.
I generally agree about Cal but Leah Schmidt and, to a lesser extent, Sam Taumoepeau and Mikayla Hayden stepped up this weekend. If Cal can get some more kills from players other than Grote, it should help them a lot. Even if they do, I think they'll be in the bottom group but it should be more enjoyable for their fans.
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Post by JJVb on Sept 19, 2022 0:26:43 GMT -5
Can we talk about PAC play starting, and how teams will do? WSU and OSU will do better than you think. USC is a puzzle. Oregon is the team to beat Wouldn't surprise me. WSU has the misfortune of being down two middles. A backup OH had to play middle last two matches, and Timmer's numbers seem down this year. I still think they are top 5 though. OSU is definitely playing better than last year, and I see them getting wins for sure. |
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Post by JJVb on Sept 19, 2022 0:30:27 GMT -5
WSU is down 1 and now possibly two middles, but they still have a lot of strong pieces. USC some might argue are not in this group, but they have a lot of weapons. Serve receive will be their downfall against strong serving teams. They struggle in defense, and some matches their hitting efficiency is poor. Same goes for CAL. Grote is carrying the team in most wins, but their serve receive and hitting efficiency really struggles at times. I generally agree with what you said. Good summary.
Does anyone know the situation with Jasmine Martin? Is Rubright out for the whole season?
I thought USC would be really good this season but they haven't been so far. They still have potential but, since I haven't seen that realized, I agree that they're in the middle for now.
I generally agree about Cal but Leah Schmidt and, to a lesser extent, Sam Taumoepeau and Mikayla Hayden stepped up this weekend. If Cal can get some more kills from players other than Grote, it should help them a lot. Even if they do, I think they'll be in the bottom group but it should be more enjoyable for their fans.
Thanks. Yes, Rubright is out for the whole season. Not sure the full status on Martin, but didn't get the impression it was season ending.
Yeah, USC just really struggles with serve receive/ball control, but in system they have big weapons.
Well, that was the first time CAL won without Grote leading I believe, so I don't see Schmidt and Taumoepeau being that good in PAC play consistently, but we will see. Hayden is showing promise though for sure. CAL definitely has the chance to beat teams in that bottom group.
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Post by baytree on Sept 19, 2022 1:08:21 GMT -5
I generally agree with what you said. Good summary.
Does anyone know the situation with Jasmine Martin? Is Rubright out for the whole season?
I thought USC would be really good this season but they haven't been so far. They still have potential but, since I haven't seen that realized, I agree that they're in the middle for now.
I generally agree about Cal but Leah Schmidt and, to a lesser extent, Sam Taumoepeau and Mikayla Hayden stepped up this weekend. If Cal can get some more kills from players other than Grote, it should help them a lot. Even if they do, I think they'll be in the bottom group but it should be more enjoyable for their fans.
Well, that was the first time CAL won without Grote leading I believe, so I don't see Schmidt and Taumoepeau being that good in PAC play consistently, but we will see. Hayden is showing promise though for sure. CAL definitely has the chance to beat teams in that bottom group.
I agree that Grote carried Cal in most of the preseason matches. That's why it was so noticeable when that didn't happen against Davis. (Hayden, Schmidt and Tamoepeau did pretty well against Nevada too, who was one of Cal's toughest opponents.) St. Mary's and Davis aren't difficult opponents but neither are any of the other teams Cal played this preseason. I'm glad they mostly scheduled cupcakes so their win percentage is pretty good (.700). I"m not sure how any of them will do against PAC teams. We shall see. |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 19, 2022 1:28:10 GMT -5
Can we talk about PAC play starting, and how teams will do? This is how I'm grouping them at this point. Ya'll agree? Group 1: Standford, Ducks, Huskies Group 2: Colorado, Utah, USC, WSU Group 3: UCLA, AZ, ASU, Oregon State, CAL Stan and Ducks are playing very well. Stan has gotten some big wins. Ducks pushed top teams, and are strong in every area. Huskies are slightly behind due to some up and down play and Bays was out last weekend, but they are strong enough to beat most teams in the PAC. Having watched the top 3 squads multiple times, I will rate...barring crippling injuries...Stanford 1A, UO 1B and UW 3 (at least until their injured return). SU *should* get a seed; the Ducks are one player/ slightly "off"; UDub is solid-if-not-spectacular, IMO. A down year for the entire conference overall. When you say Stanford should get a seed, I’m assuming you mean a top 4 seed? But that’s not what it sounds like with the rest of your post. If Stanford is not a top 16 seed I’ll eat my hat. My only real question with them is do they do enough in conference play to be a top 4 or not. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 19, 2022 2:52:43 GMT -5
I haven't gotten around to preparing to make the weekly threads and pablo odds this year, so I'm not sure if I'll do that before Wed.
But it is an interesting upcoming week, with Stanford at Oregon and the Washington schools at the LA schools. Also Washington v. WSU may help answer some questions about both those teams.
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Post by tomclen on Sept 19, 2022 4:52:53 GMT -5
In multiple threads a number of posters are proclaiming a "down year" for the PAC. Again.
Hard to argue with that, based on what I've seen so far. Stanford does seem to be improving. Oregon has shown flashes of brilliance. But it's not going to be surprising if those are the only two teams competing for a top 16 seed.
Will the Sunday 9/25 Eugene matchup with Stanford/Oregon predict who wins the PAC?
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Post by volleynerd on Sept 19, 2022 8:59:07 GMT -5
ALL ON EDT
WED SEPT 21
Washington State @ Washington 9PM (PAC12N)
Arizona State @ Arizona 10PM (PAC12N)
Oregon @ Oregon State 10PM (PAC12N)
Stanford @ California 11PM (PAC12N)
THU SEPT 22
Colorado @ Utah 9PM (PAC12N)
Southern California @ UCLA 10PM (PAC12N)

FRI SEPT 23
California @ Oregon State 9PM (PAC12N)
SAT SEPT 24
Washington State @ Southern California 5PM
Arizona @ Utah 9PM
SUN SEPT 25
Stanford @ Oregon 3PM (PAC12N)
Arizona State @ Colorado 3PM
Washington @ UCLA 6PM (ESPNU)
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Post by hammer on Sept 19, 2022 12:32:57 GMT -5
In multiple threads a number of posters are proclaiming a "down year" for the PAC. Again. Hard to argue with that, based on what I've seen so far. Stanford does seem to be improving. Oregon has shown flashes of brilliance. But it's not going to be surprising if those are the only two teams competing for a top 16 seed. Will the Sunday 9/25 Eugene matchup with Stanford/Oregon predict who wins the PAC? It feels like the PAC winner will have something like 3 or 4 losses this year, but either Oregon or Stanford has a chance to get into the driver's seat early with the big match coming up this weekend in Eugene. Because Oregon only plays Stanford once, if they can secure a win, that would make them the early favorite. Overall, I think it is a 3 team race between Oregon, Stanford, and U-Dub, although admittedly U-Dub is more of an unknown quantity. |
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