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Post by volleynerd on Sept 19, 2022 9:50:36 GMT -5
ALL ON EDT WED SEPT 21 Missouri @ Tennessee 7PM (ESPNU) Alabama @ Florida 7PM Texas A&M @ Ole Miss 7:30PM Georgia @ Mississippi State 8PM (SECN) Arkansas @ LSU 8PM SAT SEPT 24 Florida @ South Carolina 2PM Auburn @ Alabama 2PM Tennessee @ Texas A&M 3PM LSU @ Kentucky 4PM Ole Miss @ Arkansas 6PM SUN SEPT 25 LSU @ Kentucky 12PM (SECN) Florida @ South Carolina 2PM Auburn @ Alabama 2PM (SECN) Tennessee @ Texas A&M 3PM I heard Ole Miss @ Ark on Saturday moved to an earlier time, 3pm CST, 4pm EST. No explanation, just what I heard. you are right! thanks for the heads up- I just noticed the change on the sec website, |
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Post by bustominkus on Sept 19, 2022 11:04:52 GMT -5
How do we think conference play is going to play out? The top 3 is really interesting imo with Kentucky, Florida and Arkansas all having a chance to take it. I honestly don’t know who to pick. Here’s my best guesses.
As fun as it would be for the Hogs to win the SEC, I just don’t see them getting over the hump. Maybe I should. But I don’t. If Kentucky can learn to find the consistently to play like they did against Louisville, Creighton and USC, then I think they take it. While I think if Kentucky and Florida were to play this week in a 5 game series, Florida would win most, I still don’t see FL as a clear favorite. You can’t ignore Floridas win against Wisconsin of course, but Wisconsin played awful most their watch with FL and anything can happen in a fifth set.
1. Kentucky - they really could’ve used just one win over Wisconsin, Nebraska or Louisville, but the talent is there and at this point you have to trust Skinner.
2. Florida - This team is fun to watch and loaded with talent and I am only giving them #2 because recently Skinner has Wise’s number. If they played Kentucky earlier in conference play I’d probably switch them.
3. Arkansas - If they can play sharp every match, they could find themselves in a situation like MSU last year where they are within a game or half a game of the title. But I expect Gillen and Head to get tired at some point in the season
I guess I have more faith in Skinner’s calm, consistent and patient coaching style than I do Wise’s emotional-forward volleyball style come November when they meet. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see Arkansas take it if they can stay consistent. I’d maybe give AR a 25% chance to take it now. After these three, it’s an even bigger mess honestly. Numbers 6-12 were especially hard for me to place and I could see these teams exchanging places in any order, with maybe Texas A&M joining the mix. It’s honestly like rolling the dice with these teams.
4. Mississippi State - Is the Darty Party old news, or was last season just the pregame? I still don’t know. But for now I’ll keep them here.
5. Texas A&M - Nice win over Western Kentucky to end non-con so they get spot #5 but I’m really not sure how much separation the Aggies have from any team between them and Ole Miss.
6. LSU - Beaten Iowa State, have played Penn State, Rice and Marquette closely. Plus first year coaches always seem to do well in the SEC.
7. Georgia - This is honestly just a bit of a feeling I have that they will end up here, but I could be so wrong. They’re kind of in the same position as Auburn, lots of wins of not so great teams, but I like Kacie Evans and Sophie Fischer.
8. Missouri - Maybe I’m too high on them, but they’ve almost beaten South Dakota and Kansas State, both of which are tournament teams. Despite last season, the Taylor’s have proven they can win. Plus Kaylee Cox is fun to watch and I’m a Mizzou fan.
9. Tennessee - I just have a hard time placing them any lower than this given their talent, but they have shown they will lose to teams they shouldn’t and Rocky Top has been on a bit of a decline since the middle of last season. We were rooting for you, Eve! Cmon!
10. South Carolina - honestly don’t know much about this team, but they haven’t been showing me much the last few season to give them any reason for improvement in conference play.
11. Auburn - the win over Jacksonville State looks nice now but I’ll believe it when I see it with this program.
12. Ole Miss - I could see a meltdown happening with this squad leaving them here, or I could see them pulling together and replacing A&M at 5. They’re here for now because of their record.
13. Alabama - Bama.
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Post by Friday on Sept 19, 2022 11:23:54 GMT -5
How do we think conference play is going to play out? The top 3 is really interesting imo with Kentucky, Florida and Arkansas all having a chance to take it. I honestly don’t know who to pick. Here’s my best guesses. As fun as it would be for the Hogs to win the SEC, I just don’t see them getting over the hump. Maybe I should. But I don’t. If Kentucky can learn to find the consistently to play like they did against Louisville, Creighton and USC, then I think they take it. While I think if Kentucky and Florida were to play this week in a 5 game series, Florida would win most, I still don’t see FL as a clear favorite. You can’t ignore Floridas win against Wisconsin of course, but Wisconsin played awful most their watch with FL and anything can happen in a fifth set. 1. Kentucky - they really could’ve used just one win over Wisconsin, Nebraska or Louisville, but the talent is there and at this point you have to trust Skinner. 2. Florida - This team is fun to watch and loaded with talent and I am only giving them #2 because recently Skinner has Wise’s number. If they played Kentucky earlier in conference play I’d probably switch them. 3. Arkansas - If they can play sharp every match, they could find themselves in a situation like MSU last year where they are within a game or half a game of the title. But I expect Gillen and Head to get tired at some point in the season I guess I have more faith in Skinner’s calm, consistent and patient coaching style than I do Wise’s emotional-forward volleyball style come November when they meet. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see Arkansas take it if they can stay consistent. I’d maybe give AR a 25% chance to take it now. After these three, it’s an even bigger mess honestly. Numbers 6-12 were especially hard for me to place and I could see these teams exchanging places in any order, with maybe Texas A&M joining the mix. It’s honestly like rolling the dice with these teams. 4. Mississippi State - Is the Darty Party old news, or was last season just the pregame? I still don’t know. But for now I’ll keep them here. 5. Texas A&M - Nice win over Western Kentucky to end non-con so they get spot #5 but I’m really not sure how much separation the Aggies have from any team between them and Ole Miss. 6. LSU - Beaten Iowa State, have played Penn State, Rice and Marquette closely. Plus first year coaches always seem to do well in the SEC. 7. Georgia - This is honestly just a bit of a feeling I have that they will end up here, but I could be so wrong. They’re kind of in the same position as Auburn, lots of wins of not so great teams, but I like Kacie Evans and Sophie Fischer. 8. Missouri - Maybe I’m too high on them, but they’ve almost beaten South Dakota and Kansas State, both of which are tournament teams. Despite last season, the Taylor’s have proven they can win. Plus Kaylee Cox is fun to watch and I’m a Mizzou fan. 9. Tennessee - I just have a hard time placing them any lower than this given their talent, but they have shown they will lose to teams they shouldn’t and Rocky Top has been on a bit of a decline since the middle of last season. We were rooting for you, Eve! Cmon! 10. South Carolina - honestly don’t know much about this team, but they haven’t been showing me much the last few season to give them any reason for improvement in conference play. 11. Auburn - the win over Jacksonville State looks nice now but I’ll believe it when I see it with this program. 12. Ole Miss - I could see a meltdown happening with this squad leaving them here, or I could see them pulling together and replacing A&M at 5. They’re here for now because of their record. 13. Alabama - Bama. I think UT will be a different team when they get Mahaffey back. 3 unexpected injuries - 2 to 5th year starters has them trying to figure out lineups in these non-conference matches. Upside - lots of underclassman getting great reps against great teams will help them in years to come. |
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Post by bustominkus on Sept 19, 2022 11:31:02 GMT -5
How do we think conference play is going to play out? The top 3 is really interesting imo with Kentucky, Florida and Arkansas all having a chance to take it. I honestly don’t know who to pick. Here’s my best guesses. As fun as it would be for the Hogs to win the SEC, I just don’t see them getting over the hump. Maybe I should. But I don’t. If Kentucky can learn to find the consistently to play like they did against Louisville, Creighton and USC, then I think they take it. While I think if Kentucky and Florida were to play this week in a 5 game series, Florida would win most, I still don’t see FL as a clear favorite. You can’t ignore Floridas win against Wisconsin of course, but Wisconsin played awful most their watch with FL and anything can happen in a fifth set. 1. Kentucky - they really could’ve used just one win over Wisconsin, Nebraska or Louisville, but the talent is there and at this point you have to trust Skinner. 2. Florida - This team is fun to watch and loaded with talent and I am only giving them #2 because recently Skinner has Wise’s number. If they played Kentucky earlier in conference play I’d probably switch them. 3. Arkansas - If they can play sharp every match, they could find themselves in a situation like MSU last year where they are within a game or half a game of the title. But I expect Gillen and Head to get tired at some point in the season I guess I have more faith in Skinner’s calm, consistent and patient coaching style than I do Wise’s emotional-forward volleyball style come November when they meet. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see Arkansas take it if they can stay consistent. I’d maybe give AR a 25% chance to take it now. After these three, it’s an even bigger mess honestly. Numbers 6-12 were especially hard for me to place and I could see these teams exchanging places in any order, with maybe Texas A&M joining the mix. It’s honestly like rolling the dice with these teams. 4. Mississippi State - Is the Darty Party old news, or was last season just the pregame? I still don’t know. But for now I’ll keep them here. 5. Texas A&M - Nice win over Western Kentucky to end non-con so they get spot #5 but I’m really not sure how much separation the Aggies have from any team between them and Ole Miss. 6. LSU - Beaten Iowa State, have played Penn State, Rice and Marquette closely. Plus first year coaches always seem to do well in the SEC. 7. Georgia - This is honestly just a bit of a feeling I have that they will end up here, but I could be so wrong. They’re kind of in the same position as Auburn, lots of wins of not so great teams, but I like Kacie Evans and Sophie Fischer. 8. Missouri - Maybe I’m too high on them, but they’ve almost beaten South Dakota and Kansas State, both of which are tournament teams. Despite last season, the Taylor’s have proven they can win. Plus Kaylee Cox is fun to watch and I’m a Mizzou fan. 9. Tennessee - I just have a hard time placing them any lower than this given their talent, but they have shown they will lose to teams they shouldn’t and Rocky Top has been on a bit of a decline since the middle of last season. We were rooting for you, Eve! Cmon! 10. South Carolina - honestly don’t know much about this team, but they haven’t been showing me much the last few season to give them any reason for improvement in conference play. 11. Auburn - the win over Jacksonville State looks nice now but I’ll believe it when I see it with this program. 12. Ole Miss - I could see a meltdown happening with this squad leaving them here, or I could see them pulling together and replacing A&M at 5. They’re here for now because of their record. 13. Alabama - Bama. I think UT will be a different team when they get Mahaffey back. 3 unexpected injuries - 2 to 5th year starters has them trying to figure out lineups in these non-conference matches. Upside - lots of underclassman getting great reps against great teams will help them in years to come. I didn’t even know Mahaffey was out, so that explains a lot. If Mahaffey and co are healthy I’d probably put them at 6. But trying to rank the SEC right is now is an actual mess anyways. |
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Post by bustominkus on Sept 19, 2022 11:32:47 GMT -5
Looking at RPI and Massey ratings, I would think as of today the SEC would be a four-bid league with Kentucky, Arkansas, Florida and Mississippi State making it. Any one else have disagreements?
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Post by Friday on Sept 19, 2022 12:26:08 GMT -5
I think UT will be a different team when they get Mahaffey back. 3 unexpected injuries - 2 to 5th year starters has them trying to figure out lineups in these non-conference matches. Upside - lots of underclassman getting great reps against great teams will help them in years to come. I didn’t even know Mahaffey was out, so that explains a lot. If Mahaffey and co are healthy I’d probably put them at 6. But trying to rank the SEC right is now is an actual mess anyways. Mahaffey injured leg in exhibition match and has been in a boot. Not sure when she will be back although hopefully soon. Ava Bell and Ave Moes both medically retired. Bell was a big loss as a 5th year/starter. Moes definitely hurts depth chart on the pins. |
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Post by nakedcrayon on Sept 19, 2022 12:44:51 GMT -5
With non conference schedules done. Who stood out and who didn’t ??
The biggest question outside the top three of Kentucky Arkansas and Florida is can the next group play well within that next tier. Whoever does can get the fourth and maybe fifth spot in the NCAA Tourney.
Teams in that second tier like MISS STATE ,LSU, TAMU and TENN
all have the ability to rise up but also to lay flat in any given match.
Who has that middle tier played that are NCAA Tourney teams and how did they fair ??
TAMU went 1-2 against the likely NCAA field.
Miss State likely the same
LSU maybe 1-4 but a couple of other wins against teams in the past who have been in the tourney yearly
Tenn 0-4.
And the way Bowling Green has played this year you could add a few more losses to that total.
In order for any of the ones outside the top 3 to make it IMO they will have to have a great winning percentage against that middle tier and maybe sneak a win against a top 3 team.
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Post by bmg3 on Sept 19, 2022 13:17:58 GMT -5
How do we think conference play is going to play out? The top 3 is really interesting imo with Kentucky, Florida and Arkansas all having a chance to take it. I honestly don’t know who to pick. Here’s my best guesses. As fun as it would be for the Hogs to win the SEC, I just don’t see them getting over the hump. Maybe I should. But I don’t. If Kentucky can learn to find the consistently to play like they did against Louisville, Creighton and USC, then I think they take it. While I think if Kentucky and Florida were to play this week in a 5 game series, Florida would win most, I still don’t see FL as a clear favorite. You can’t ignore Floridas win against Wisconsin of course, but Wisconsin played awful most their watch with FL and anything can happen in a fifth set. 1. Kentucky - they really could’ve used just one win over Wisconsin, Nebraska or Louisville, but the talent is there and at this point you have to trust Skinner. 2. Florida - This team is fun to watch and loaded with talent and I am only giving them #2 because recently Skinner has Wise’s number. If they played Kentucky earlier in conference play I’d probably switch them. 3. Arkansas - If they can play sharp every match, they could find themselves in a situation like MSU last year where they are within a game or half a game of the title. But I expect Gillen and Head to get tired at some point in the season I guess I have more faith in Skinner’s calm, consistent and patient coaching style than I do Wise’s emotional-forward volleyball style come November when they meet. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see Arkansas take it if they can stay consistent. I’d maybe give AR a 25% chance to take it now. After these three, it’s an even bigger mess honestly. Numbers 6-12 were especially hard for me to place and I could see these teams exchanging places in any order, with maybe Texas A&M joining the mix. It’s honestly like rolling the dice with these teams. 4. Mississippi State - Is the Darty Party old news, or was last season just the pregame? I still don’t know. But for now I’ll keep them here. 5. Texas A&M - Nice win over Western Kentucky to end non-con so they get spot #5 but I’m really not sure how much separation the Aggies have from any team between them and Ole Miss. 6. LSU - Beaten Iowa State, have played Penn State, Rice and Marquette closely. Plus first year coaches always seem to do well in the SEC. 7. Georgia - This is honestly just a bit of a feeling I have that they will end up here, but I could be so wrong. They’re kind of in the same position as Auburn, lots of wins of not so great teams, but I like Kacie Evans and Sophie Fischer. 8. Missouri - Maybe I’m too high on them, but they’ve almost beaten South Dakota and Kansas State, both of which are tournament teams. Despite last season, the Taylor’s have proven they can win. Plus Kaylee Cox is fun to watch and I’m a Mizzou fan. 9. Tennessee - I just have a hard time placing them any lower than this given their talent, but they have shown they will lose to teams they shouldn’t and Rocky Top has been on a bit of a decline since the middle of last season. We were rooting for you, Eve! Cmon! 10. South Carolina - honestly don’t know much about this team, but they haven’t been showing me much the last few season to give them any reason for improvement in conference play. 11. Auburn - the win over Jacksonville State looks nice now but I’ll believe it when I see it with this program. 12. Ole Miss - I could see a meltdown happening with this squad leaving them here, or I could see them pulling together and replacing A&M at 5. They’re here for now because of their record. 13. Alabama - Bama. Neither Gillen nor Head have left the floor their entire collegiate careers - they are used to this. |
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Post by bustominkus on Sept 19, 2022 13:43:42 GMT -5
How do we think conference play is going to play out? The top 3 is really interesting imo with Kentucky, Florida and Arkansas all having a chance to take it. I honestly don’t know who to pick. Here’s my best guesses. As fun as it would be for the Hogs to win the SEC, I just don’t see them getting over the hump. Maybe I should. But I don’t. If Kentucky can learn to find the consistently to play like they did against Louisville, Creighton and USC, then I think they take it. While I think if Kentucky and Florida were to play this week in a 5 game series, Florida would win most, I still don’t see FL as a clear favorite. You can’t ignore Floridas win against Wisconsin of course, but Wisconsin played awful most their watch with FL and anything can happen in a fifth set. 1. Kentucky - they really could’ve used just one win over Wisconsin, Nebraska or Louisville, but the talent is there and at this point you have to trust Skinner. 2. Florida - This team is fun to watch and loaded with talent and I am only giving them #2 because recently Skinner has Wise’s number. If they played Kentucky earlier in conference play I’d probably switch them. 3. Arkansas - If they can play sharp every match, they could find themselves in a situation like MSU last year where they are within a game or half a game of the title. But I expect Gillen and Head to get tired at some point in the season I guess I have more faith in Skinner’s calm, consistent and patient coaching style than I do Wise’s emotional-forward volleyball style come November when they meet. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see Arkansas take it if they can stay consistent. I’d maybe give AR a 25% chance to take it now. After these three, it’s an even bigger mess honestly. Numbers 6-12 were especially hard for me to place and I could see these teams exchanging places in any order, with maybe Texas A&M joining the mix. It’s honestly like rolling the dice with these teams. 4. Mississippi State - Is the Darty Party old news, or was last season just the pregame? I still don’t know. But for now I’ll keep them here. 5. Texas A&M - Nice win over Western Kentucky to end non-con so they get spot #5 but I’m really not sure how much separation the Aggies have from any team between them and Ole Miss. 6. LSU - Beaten Iowa State, have played Penn State, Rice and Marquette closely. Plus first year coaches always seem to do well in the SEC. 7. Georgia - This is honestly just a bit of a feeling I have that they will end up here, but I could be so wrong. They’re kind of in the same position as Auburn, lots of wins of not so great teams, but I like Kacie Evans and Sophie Fischer. 8. Missouri - Maybe I’m too high on them, but they’ve almost beaten South Dakota and Kansas State, both of which are tournament teams. Despite last season, the Taylor’s have proven they can win. Plus Kaylee Cox is fun to watch and I’m a Mizzou fan. 9. Tennessee - I just have a hard time placing them any lower than this given their talent, but they have shown they will lose to teams they shouldn’t and Rocky Top has been on a bit of a decline since the middle of last season. We were rooting for you, Eve! Cmon! 10. South Carolina - honestly don’t know much about this team, but they haven’t been showing me much the last few season to give them any reason for improvement in conference play. 11. Auburn - the win over Jacksonville State looks nice now but I’ll believe it when I see it with this program. 12. Ole Miss - I could see a meltdown happening with this squad leaving them here, or I could see them pulling together and replacing A&M at 5. They’re here for now because of their record. 13. Alabama - Bama. Neither Gillen nor Head have left the floor their entire collegiate careers - they are used to this. And they’re also used to taking many losses in SEC play. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 13:49:53 GMT -5
Neither Gillen nor Head have left the floor their entire collegiate careers - they are used to this. And they’re also used to taking many losses in SEC play. I just died laughing |
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Post by vballfan17 on Sept 19, 2022 15:27:16 GMT -5
SEC Player of the Week - Alexis Stucky, Florida
SEC Offensive Player of the Week - LSU's Sanaa Dotson, a senior outside hitter from Houston, Texas, averaged 5.33 points and 5.00 kills per set and posted a .324 hitting percentage in back-to-back sweeps over Oregon State and Tulane at the Tulane Invitational in New Orleans. After leading the team with 14 kills against Oregon State, Dotson led Tigers with 16 kills in the win over host Tulane.
Defensive Player of the Week - Florida's Elli McKissock, a junior libero from Windermere, Fla., averaged 4.25 digs per set in a 2-0 week for the Gators. McKissock recorded 16 digs in the three-set win over Florida State, and followed that with an 18-dig performance in the five-set victory at No. 4 Wisconsin.
SEC Setter of the Week - Auburn's Jackie Barrett, a junior from Highland, Calif., averaged 11.91 assists per set and helped the Tigers to a .301 team hitting percentage over three wins at the Jacksonville State Invitational. Barrett set a career high in the five-set win over Jacksonville State with 57 assists. She began the weekend with 33 assists against Southern Miss, the most in a three-set match for the Tigers this season.
SEC Freshman of the Week - Florida's Alexis Stucky, a setter from Laramie, Wy., averaged 10.75 assists per set in a pair of victories for the Gators this past week. Stucky tallied 41 assists in the sweep of Florida State, and tied her career high of 45 assists in the five-set win at No. 4 Wisconsin. For the week, she also contributed 10 digs, eight blocks and six kills.
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Post by vbshrink on Sept 19, 2022 18:42:42 GMT -5
I wonder if Watson is even nominating his players. I have no truck with Stucky or Dotson, but Courtney Jackson's numbers are notably better than McKissock's (which are very good).
McKissock - 4.25 d/s
Jackson - 5.0 d/s.
Both teams played two matches. Both teams played 8 sets. Both teams played a highly ranked team and beat them. Jackson got 18 digs vs GA Tech (4 sets) and 22 vs NC State (also 4 sets).
Congrats to McKissock - I thought she played very well. But I have to say, I don't get it.
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Post by vbshrink on Sept 19, 2022 18:54:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the breakdown bustominkus, but one thing your analysis seems to skip is the scheduling difficulty. Arkansas plays two-match series with Florida (away), Kentucky (home), Mississippi State (away) and Tennessee (home) -- which were the four teams, in addition to the Hogs, who were picked to finish in the top 5 in the preseason poll. Florida gets MSU (away) and Kentucky (home), in addition to the Hogs (home). Kentucky gets only Florida and Arkansas, but both series are away. Mississippi State gets Arkansas (home), Florida (home), and Tennessee (away). Tennessee (who we all acknowledge has been a disappointment this far, but they ARE dealing with injuries) gets only Arkansas (road) and Mississippi State (home). The schedule sets up to disadvantage Arkansas, and I think that lessens their chances of taking the title. I would say of the top contenders, Kentucky was fortunate enough to have the most favorable schedule, and because of that I would give them the edge. |
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Post by bustominkus on Sept 20, 2022 0:13:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the breakdown bustominkus, but one thing your analysis seems to skip is the scheduling difficulty. Arkansas plays two-match series with Florida (away), Kentucky (home), Mississippi State (away) and Tennessee (home) -- which were the four teams, in addition to the Hogs, who were picked to finish in the top 5 in the preseason poll. Florida gets MSU (away) and Kentucky (home), in addition to the Hogs (home). Kentucky gets only Florida and Arkansas, but both series are away. Mississippi State gets Arkansas (home), Florida (home), and Tennessee (away). Tennessee (who we all acknowledge has been a disappointment this far, but they ARE dealing with injuries) gets only Arkansas (road) and Mississippi State (home). The schedule sets up to disadvantage Arkansas, and I think that lessens their chances of taking the title. I would say of the top contenders, Kentucky was fortunate enough to have the most favorable schedule, and because of that I would give them the edge. I thought about that after I had posted but was honestly just tired of trying to rank them all but still, you have a very valid point. It’s interesting that RPI futures as of today has both Florida and Kentucky each accumulating five more losses, hinting they would share the title. The RPI futures have Arkansas with 6 additional losses. |
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Post by bmg3 on Sept 20, 2022 0:30:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Watson is even nominating his players. I have no truck with Stucky or Dotson, but Courtney Jackson's numbers are notably better than McKissock's (which are very good). McKissock - 4.25 d/s Jackson - 5.0 d/s. Both teams played two matches. Both teams played 8 sets. Both teams played a highly ranked team and beat them. Jackson got 18 digs vs GA Tech (4 sets) and 22 vs NC State (also 4 sets). Congrats to McKissock - I thought she played very well. But I have to say, I don't get it. 100% agree - Jackson is a top libero and a huge part of Arkansas’ success. I think we will see more attention sent her way as conference play progresses |
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