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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 19:45:40 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill you'd be surprised LOL I've seen some nasty stuff I don't think JWO is as flashy/as good at setting OOS tempo like De Gennaro or Castillo, but she is very solid at getting her hitters swings in tough positions. There's lots of liberos that can't say that.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 2, 2022 19:53:12 GMT -5
How quickly we forget Dana played nearly the whole 2019 VNL with the “A” team and played the Olympic qualifier that year as well. She should have been in the Olympic training camp if the Spring season didn’t overlap the 2020VNL…. And she's still not ready for the elite intl game. Staying at Wisconsin for another year hurt that. She belonged. She hot for a high percentage and blocking was not top but close. I don't care to pull stats but have before and she more than held her own.
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Post by Draco_MN on Jan 2, 2022 19:57:04 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill ? ? ? ? ? this is so illogical that I don’t even know how to properly word my disagreement
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 19:59:24 GMT -5
you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco 👀 Now you have to spill the tea. there's no tea lol its all out there she went to PR pregnant, didn't tell anyone... pulled out of the league during the playoffs when she was too far along to play... and caused her team to forfeit because they weren't allowed to sign a replacement.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 20:00:36 GMT -5
And she's still not ready for the elite intl game. Staying at Wisconsin for another year hurt that. She belonged. She hot for a high percentage and blocking was not top but close. I don't care to pull stats but have before and she more than held her own. that's all fun and games in the NCAA. She can hit over Madi Kubik all she wants... but that doesn't fly in Europe. that's my point. Her serve hasn't improved at all... it goes under the net just as much as it goes over. She's not faster to the pins... she's defended NCAA speed instead of elite speed. anyways... this is derailing lol
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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 20:02:20 GMT -5
Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. from what I've seen Fleck is a very good setter with both hands and platform. dont wanna compare her directly to Justine though because they're playing at different levels. she dedicates like 2 minutes to setting in this highlight reel
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 20:03:12 GMT -5
Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill lol you've called both passing and setting easy skills now in the past few days. Volleyball must come naturally to you xD Setting and out of system setting are wildly different. I never said setting was easy. I’ve played a lot and been around a very high level for some time and I do not think bump setting a ball from 10-15 feet off the net is very hard at all, especially for someone who’s at the highest level. If a libero is playing pro and can’t bump set a ball into a 5 foot window of space, they shouldn’t be at that level.
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Post by jwvolley on Jan 2, 2022 20:09:05 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. from what I've seen Fleck is a very good setter with both hands and platform. dont wanna compare her directly to Justine though because they're playing at different levels. she dedicates like 2 minutes to setting in this highlight reel lmao @ the passing portion. It's borderline obnoxious how many balls she steals haha
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 20:10:29 GMT -5
*elite liberos should be able to bump set* Ayca Aykac:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 20:10:39 GMT -5
from what I've seen Fleck is a very good setter with both hands and platform. dont wanna compare her directly to Justine though because they're playing at different levels. she dedicates like 2 minutes to setting in this highlight reel lmao @ the passing portion. It's borderline obnoxious how many balls she steals haha this. Some people also were pointing how she was getting aced a lot against Wisconsin and USC but you have to realize she’s literally almost taking balls off peoples platforms for them and that’s gonna come with some rough patches but she handles it excellently
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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 20:12:19 GMT -5
*elite liberos should be able to bump set* Ayca Aykac: I mean I didn't wanna name names but- unfortunate
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 20:13:06 GMT -5
*elite liberos should be able to bump set* Ayca Aykac: Popović also in shambles
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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 20:15:42 GMT -5
*elite liberos should be able to bump set* Ayca Aykac: Popović also in shambles the Polish bro also comes to mind for some reason but I also remember thinking she was decent so idk
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 2, 2022 20:20:34 GMT -5
She belonged. She hot for a high percentage and blocking was not top but close. I don't care to pull stats but have before and she more than held her own. that's all fun and games in the NCAA. She can hit over Madi Kubik all she wants... but that doesn't fly in Europe. that's my point. Her serve hasn't improved at all... it goes under the net just as much as it goes over. She's not faster to the pins... she's defended NCAA speed instead of elite speed. anyways... this is derailing lol Perhaps (certainly) you are unable to keep up. She played against top international competition at VNL and her stats were pretty comparable to experienced middles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 20:20:56 GMT -5
the Polish bro also comes to mind for some reason but I also remember thinking she was decent so idk well popović isn’t the absolute worst. She sets D balls well
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